
Banshee64
Joined: Dec 4, 2012
oify
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Posted: Apr 13, 2013 11:26 PM
Msg. 1086 of 1188
I am one of the small percentage of people who do not want to kill gravemind.
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Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: Apr 13, 2013 11:29 PM
Msg. 1087 of 1188
I am glad Gravemind is a member here.
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TDog
Joined: Mar 6, 2013
twilight sparkle
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Posted: Apr 13, 2013 11:30 PM
Msg. 1088 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: ElijahB1 People don't do things for self-benefit. I think logic just left the building.
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ElijahB1
Joined: Nov 25, 2012
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Posted: Apr 13, 2013 11:31 PM
Msg. 1089 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: Banshee64 I am one of the small percentage of people who do not want to kill gravemind. Really, why in the ___ would anyone want to do that? He has gotten extraction this far and because he was straightning out h4 extraction before a public release everyone wants to hate/kill him? If I were Gravemind I'd say ____ you guys, if you are so smart make your own extractor.
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Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005
"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan
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Posted: Apr 13, 2013 11:36 PM
Msg. 1090 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 You are missing my point Dennis. He has promised people one thing, then changed his mind when he has decided he can "profit" by keeping things private for his friends. Let me repeat: "They do so at their own discretion." Arguing about it is meaningless. He is under no obligation to do anything for anyone just as H2PC and Zteam and CMT and, and, and... before him. All for their own "profit". And let's be clear here the "profit" is truly worthless in the scheme of things. If you want real social capital then show people what you have done not what you are going to do.
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Banshee64
Joined: Dec 4, 2012
oify
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 12:09 AM
Msg. 1091 of 1188
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OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009
Documentation and debug.txt
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 12:35 AM
Msg. 1092 of 1188
D:
I would've at least thought one of the pros knew what an xbe was ...
god I feel so old :3
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XlzQwerty1
Joined: Aug 6, 2009
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 12:36 AM
Msg. 1093 of 1188
It's alright, I can swim.
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OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009
Documentation and debug.txt
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 12:42 AM
Msg. 1094 of 1188
You'll need an xbox devkit and a copy of halo(the old kinds with the gold backed discs), and the actual PC-side debugger.
The point I tried to make earlier was if Silly Sally wanted references of Foundry from every angle, he could go out and download the leaked halo 3 debug xex and use it to activate the dev camera to get reference pics, and even dump screenshots
i'd demonstrate but......... i'm still not home! Edited by OrangeJuice on Apr 14, 2013 at 12:44 AM
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KingNick220
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 12:51 AM
Msg. 1095 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: OrangeJuice
You'll need an xbox devkit and a copy of halo(the old kinds with the gold backed discs), and the actual PC-side debugger.
The point I tried to make earlier was if Silly Sally wanted references of Foundry from every angle, he could go out and download the leaked halo 3 debug xex and use it to activate the dev camera to get reference pics, and even dump screenshots
i'd demonstrate but......... i'm still not home! Edited by OrangeJuice on Apr 14, 2013 at 12:44 AM There is a halo 3 debug xex? where?
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OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009
Documentation and debug.txt
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 01:00 AM
Msg. 1096 of 1188
Halo 3 isn't abandoned like the old xbox, so I can't just say where -that one- is,
but google it ^-^, you will find it sooner or later Edited by OrangeJuice on Apr 14, 2013 at 01:00 AM
SORRY FOR THE THREADJACK !
lol Edited by OrangeJuice on Apr 14, 2013 at 01:06 AM
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Rosanna Weyland
Joined: Apr 4, 2013
Up and down, and all around.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 06:05 AM
Msg. 1097 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: xXxMlgProxXx Why care? Gravemind isn't really a real programmer and most of his notes are from the past asset extraction tools and he was being guided by ShadowSpartan. Why fight over Gravemind? I'm cool, why not fight over how cool and awesome Altheros is. Because Altheros is old hat and totally last season. So, anyways. Seems I didn't miss a whole lot last night, seems the issue's more or less dealt with. That in mind, can we please get back on-topic? I promise to make another thread for you all to complain, whine and troll in if it means we can actually get to the point again. EDIT: jackrabbit, I told you via PM that accessing the Castle Map Pack assets was nothing special. 's groovy that you have the assets, but it's only the same as accessing, say, stuff from the Noble Map Pack. Edited by Rosanna Weyland on Apr 14, 2013 at 06:07 AM
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Guilty_spark
Joined: Dec 8, 2011
enjoy my bright, blue, balls!
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 12:37 PM
Msg. 1098 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: xXxMlgProxXxQuote: --- Original message by: Rosanna Weyland Because Altheros is old hat and totally last season.
Good bye then, call me if you need me. Trust me no one here will want to call you. Edited by Guilty_spark on Apr 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM
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ForeRunner
Joined: Aug 26, 2011
This isn't good, isn't it?
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 12:51 PM
Msg. 1099 of 1188
Anyway, in the mean time: About extracting sounds, it isn't yet possible...right, i mean i tried from halo 3 odst and reach, but error: --Could not find file 'C:\Documents and Settings\Janzu\Local Settings\Temp\tmp.wav'. ^ What it means?
Thanks for help...if ur willing...
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killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010
sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 01:01 PM
Msg. 1100 of 1188
you will have to export the sounds in an xbox format then convert them with towav. the .wav format export doesn't seem to be working properly yet.
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darksoldier
Joined: Dec 28, 2010
Helo my friend, it's time to fight ;)
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 01:10 PM
Msg. 1101 of 1188
Possible to work on halo anniversary extraction ?
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killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010
sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 01:12 PM
Msg. 1102 of 1188
anniversary is on a completely different engine than the mainstream halo games. it would need some serious coding, basically stuff gravemind cant do.
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ElijahB1
Joined: Nov 25, 2012
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 02:10 PM
Msg. 1103 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: killzone64 anniversary is on a completely different engine than the mainstream halo games. it would need some serious coding, basically stuff gravemind cant do. And what? You are going to get off your butt and do it? Why are all you skids ripping on Gravemind again? Because he was perfecting a tool before release? I don't see you coming up with sound extraction for Halo 3-Reach or working on Halo 4 model extraction. As for Anniversary, most likely not. Most of the assets used in anniversary are just Reach models, so what would be the point of doing all that work just to get the same models?
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Banshee64
Joined: Dec 4, 2012
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 02:11 PM
Msg. 1104 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: darksoldier Possible to work on halo anniversary extraction ? Anything's possible with our lord and savior Jesus Christ. Edited by Banshee64 on Apr 14, 2013 at 02:11 PM
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Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005
"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 02:13 PM
Msg. 1105 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: DSalimander my persistence in serving karma. You of all people should be fearful of Karma. Quote: --- Original message by: DSalimander The question is not what CAN you do, it's what SHOULD you do. Like Lame or Game. I do not understand what you are trying to say here.
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AllySuzumiya
Joined: Feb 27, 2013
"Kotae wa itsumo watashi no mune ni.."
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 02:39 PM
Msg. 1106 of 1188
Wait, why do I have to share a storage container with Clonecam? I'm cutting him loose.
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
Dead.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 02:46 PM
Msg. 1107 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: ElijahB1Quote: --- Original message by: killzone64 anniversary is on a completely different engine than the mainstream halo games. it would need some serious coding, basically stuff gravemind cant do. And what? You are going to get off your butt and do it? Why are all you skids ripping on Gravemind again? Because he was perfecting a tool before release? I don't see you coming up with sound extraction for Halo 3-Reach or working on Halo 4 model extraction. As for Anniversary, most likely not. Most of the assets used in anniversary are just Reach models, so what would be the point of doing all that work just to get the same models? You must be interpreting his post in the wrong way. What he means is that it's simply too different from the other games. It would be like starting from scratch.
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ShadowSpartan
Joined: Dec 1, 2008
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 02:53 PM
Msg. 1108 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: killzone64 anniversary is on a completely different engine than the mainstream halo games. it would need some serious coding, basically stuff gravemind cant do. Yeah, the Saber engine is a totally different beast. As far as I know I'm the only one who has made any progress on it. I never got around to completing it because, like Elijah said, most of the stuff is from other Halo games. Here's a picture of an untextured b30...I'm not showing off, just giving proof that I've done it (in a highly incomplete state): http://shadow.modacity.net/b30.png
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jackrabbit
Joined: Apr 27, 2005
Fight Against the Machine of Deth!
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 03:19 PM
Msg. 1109 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: ShadowSpartanQuote: --- Original message by: killzone64 anniversary is on a completely different engine than the mainstream halo games. it would need some serious coding, basically stuff gravemind cant do. Yeah, the Saber engine is a totally different beast. As far as I know I'm the only one who has made any progress on it. I never got around to completing it because, like Elijah said, most of the stuff is from other Halo games. Here's a picture of an untextured b30...I'm not showing off, just giving proof that I've done it (in a highly incomplete state): http://shadow.modacity.net/b30.png but but but How? Edited by jackrabbit on Apr 14, 2013 at 03:25 PM
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Rosanna Weyland
Joined: Apr 4, 2013
Up and down, and all around.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 03:35 PM
Msg. 1110 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: jackrabbit but but but How? Edited by jackrabbit on Apr 14, 2013 at 03:25 PM It's SS. All you'll ever get is WE HAVE THIS BUT YOU'RE NOT WORTHY or FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOURSELF. May as well not even ask. If I were to hazard a guess, though - plenty of time and research that goes far, far over my head.
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darksoldier
Joined: Dec 28, 2010
Helo my friend, it's time to fight ;)
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 03:37 PM
Msg. 1111 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: ElijahB1Quote: --- Original message by: killzone64 anniversary is on a completely different engine than the mainstream halo games. it would need some serious coding, basically stuff gravemind cant do. And what? You are going to get off your butt and do it? Why are all you skids ripping on Gravemind again? Because he was perfecting a tool before release? I don't see you coming up with sound extraction for Halo 3-Reach or working on Halo 4 model extraction. As for Anniversary, most likely not. Most of the assets used in anniversary are just Reach models, so what would be the point of doing all that work just to get the same models? For me, it's not for the model themselves ( like you say, most of them are from h3 or Hr) I just want to extract some on enviromenent bitmaps to use them in my personal project (the floods remake). I already have all remastered music from annivesary :)
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ShadowSpartan
Joined: Dec 1, 2008
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 04:22 PM
Msg. 1112 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: Rosanna WeylandQuote: --- Original message by: jackrabbit but but but How? Edited by jackrabbit on Apr 14, 2013 at 03:25 PM It's SS. All you'll ever get is WE HAVE THIS BUT YOU'RE NOT WORTHY or FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOURSELF. May as well not even ask. If I were to hazard a guess, though - plenty of time and research that goes far, far over my head. You are yet again putting words into my mouth and making incorrect assumptions. How about you go look back a couple of pages and learn what really happened in the past? Also, I clearly stated that it is far from complete, and a lot of stuff does not work correctly.
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Rosanna Weyland
Joined: Apr 4, 2013
Up and down, and all around.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 04:34 PM
Msg. 1113 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: ShadowSpartan You are yet again putting words into my mouth and making incorrect assumptions. How about you go look back a couple of pages and learn what really happened in the past? Also, I clearly stated that it is far from complete, and a lot of stuff does not work correctly. Wait, wait... so... you're withholding incomplete tools? You mean to say that, instead of being transparent with people, giving people progress updates and maybe even beta versions of your programs... you're keeping them to yourself? Pot called. He says you're black.
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ShadowSpartan
Joined: Dec 1, 2008
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 04:39 PM
Msg. 1114 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: Rosanna WeylandQuote: --- Original message by: ShadowSpartan You are yet again putting words into my mouth and making incorrect assumptions. How about you go look back a couple of pages and learn what really happened in the past? Also, I clearly stated that it is far from complete, and a lot of stuff does not work correctly. Wait, wait... so... you're withholding incomplete tools? You mean to say that, instead of being transparent with people, giving people progress updates and maybe even beta versions of your programs... you're keeping them to yourself? Pot called. He says you're black. Yet again, look at my posts. I never complained about him keeping tools to himself. You love to make up stuff don't you?
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Rosanna Weyland
Joined: Apr 4, 2013
Up and down, and all around.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 04:44 PM
Msg. 1115 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: ShadowSpartan Yet again, look at my posts. I never complained about him keeping tools to himself. You love to make up stuff don't you? "I do not go around showing things off". Sound familiar?
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 04:45 PM
Msg. 1116 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: Rosanna WeylandQuote: --- Original message by: ShadowSpartan You are yet again putting words into my mouth and making incorrect assumptions. How about you go look back a couple of pages and learn what really happened in the past? Also, I clearly stated that it is far from complete, and a lot of stuff does not work correctly. Wait, wait... so... you're withholding incomplete tools? You mean to say that, instead of being transparent with people, giving people progress updates and maybe even beta versions of your programs... you're keeping them to yourself? Pot called. He says you're black. He supported Gravemind holding back the tools.
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ShadowSpartan
Joined: Dec 1, 2008
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 04:49 PM
Msg. 1117 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: Rosanna WeylandQuote: --- Original message by: ShadowSpartan Yet again, look at my posts. I never complained about him keeping tools to himself. You love to make up stuff don't you? "I do not go around showing things off". Sound familiar? I might as well be talking to a brick wall. As I said, I was giving proof that I had indeed done it, simple as that. Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Rosanna WeylandQuote: --- Original message by: ShadowSpartan You are yet again putting words into my mouth and making incorrect assumptions. How about you go look back a couple of pages and learn what really happened in the past? Also, I clearly stated that it is far from complete, and a lot of stuff does not work correctly. Wait, wait... so... you're withholding incomplete tools? You mean to say that, instead of being transparent with people, giving people progress updates and maybe even beta versions of your programs... you're keeping them to yourself? Pot called. He says you're black. He supported Gravemind holding back the tools. Actually, I don't care what he does with his app. He can choose to do whatever he wants, just like anybody else can with their stuff.
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Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005
"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 05:06 PM
Msg. 1118 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: DSalimander Case 1: Showing things off and then suddenly stating it won't be released. This is not what I meant but "showing people what you have done" not what you are going to do. People should not be trying to get accolades by showing off maps and stuff they are not going to finish or share. Keep it to yourself and show it off when you are ready. Quote: --- Original message by: DSalimander Can you do this? Sure. Is this is nice thing to do? No, it makes people like me rage.
However just because someone does do it does not mean you are entitled to what they have done. This is a two way street here. you have no right to "rage" over it because you should have no expectations for it. People have the right to share or not to share things at their own discrecion. You are not entitled to them.
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The_Arbiter
Joined: Aug 23, 2011
I feel like having scotch
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 07:17 PM
Msg. 1119 of 1188
How about we all stop fighting and just STFU and deal with.
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killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010
sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally
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Posted: Apr 14, 2013 07:18 PM
Msg. 1120 of 1188
Quote: --- Original message by: darksoldier
For me, it's not for the model themselves ( like you say, most of them are from h3 or Hr) I just want to extract some on enviromenent bitmaps to use them in my personal project (the floods remake). I already have all remastered music from annivesary :) in that case grab the multiplayer maps off of winserv, they are in the reach map format so you can get the textures there
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