My apologies, Dennis. DSalimander, can we just drop this please?

It did strike me as odd. It looks just like Choclate Thunda's... the grenade bitmaps, the health and shield bars...
Way too exact to be coincidence....

why has this troll not been nuked into orbit yet?

meh,it seems he has to act like a child everytime he doesn't agree with something.

It's no coincidence.
It IS Chocolate Thunda's HUD.


Edited by Dumb AI on Apr 5, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Because MineCraft rules?

I like the 360 port better than the PC version.

I have all 3 versions of it

Your joke is funny.

The only reason I like the 360 port is because it runs more smoothly.
PC version is a bit erratic on the FPS.

I do believe that is my Halo Reach M6G I made and released to the public. I'm downloading the map right now to rip it and see. Also to check the readme for credits in case it IS mine.

http://chief-01.deviantart.com/art/Halo-Reach-Magnum-182313558

AND the one thing I did NOT release, just to prove it's mine, the high poly model.

http://chief-01.deviantart.com/art/Halo-Reach-Styled-Magnum-180105522

Also, my insignia is on the bottom. It's the katakana Mo, Se, and Su overlaid on top of each other. Mosesu

Donut, Arby, Chocolate Thunda, and Yoko will vouch for me if it turns out to be mine.



EDIT: After ripping the model, which btw protecting the map only prevents people from using HEK+ on it, I have come to the conclusion that it IS in fact my model.

http://www.imageuploaddirectlink.com/uploads/13652210501.png
Edited by MosesofEgypt on Apr 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

^confirmed. It's not asking too much to request that you give credit to the people who made all that stuff you put into your map, is it? It is the product of someone else's hard work after all, especially in moses' case (he does everything by hand, and bounces his progress off of me for cirtique). It makes me feel good to see the community using my stuff, and I certainly appreciate it when people say "Thanks bro!". I'm sure most other people feel the same way, especially if your map is as successful as you said in the first post.

I approve this.

Give some credit to the maker of such an awesome magnum.

Hey Dennis, now I know you have some screwed up rules regarding what you consider to be someone's property after it goes through tool (which btw I didn't actually compile my models or textures, other people did) and cant comprehend the effort that's actually put into making models and textures and animations, but when someone takes as many things as this guy has, without giving any credit to the authors, and you don't give even half a crap, you make people like me not want to give stuff out for free. Do something about this please. For all the authors that had their stuff ripped.

This is my being calm btw, I know your rules on profanity.


Edit: and btw, my magnum is licensed under deviantart's Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported.

This https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

He is breaking a creative commons by not crediting me. Even if the design of the model is microsoft's property, the texture is nothing like the original because I didn't unwrap it the same. I know I'm probably talking to the wall here but this kind of stuff is utter bullcrap.
Edited by MosesofEgypt on Apr 6, 2013 at 01:02 AM

they are not my rules I have had no say in their formation. Copyright law is what it is and if you don't like it then petition your congressmen to get it changed.

Then don't. That is the choice you have to make when you publish fan made content for video games. The basic truth is that unless you have copyright protections for something you made then you have absolutely no say in what is done with it once it is released into the wild. These are not my rules they are basics of copyright law.

Microsoft does not release any of their Intellectual Property under the creative commons licensing model nor the MIT or GPL licensing. It is up to Microsoft to determine enforcement of their copyright not me. While I don't condone someone taking credit for something someone else has done I am not going to set myself up as an arbiter in any dispute. I an not a judge and none of you would want me as one.

I appreciate that since the profanity rule is actually mine.

or do what gaigher did and release it for a french version of Combat Evolved :P

That will not stop people from getting access to the tags, only limit the number of people who can do so.

Sorry about my borderline rage comment last night. When I found out this guy had taken stuff from multiple people (some that I actually know) including myself I admit I did get a little upset, but not much. It was when I heard about how you adhere to copyright rules in a black and white sense that added fuel to the flames. While I'm not nearly as mad now I would still like credit given. I never once compiled my models and textures for my magnum into tags meaning I never agreed to the eula saying I am giving them to microsoft. You can't accept an eula for someone and, like I mentioned earlier, at least the texture is mine. This SHOULD mean it's still under my creative commons since it existed before it was made into tags. If you don't do something about it, and because I'm not in any position to myself, I'm not going to flaming hate ragemail over it. I'm 23 and would like to think I've grown up.

Edit: And to the other guys above me, there was nothing leaked. I gave my model and textures out for free under a creative commons that requires source credit given if they are ever used. That should include being put through tool into tags.
Edited by MosesofEgypt on Apr 6, 2013 at 11:03 AM

If you're referring to me then re-read what I typed. I'm not crying about tags at all. I'm happy people use my stuff I've given out for free. I just want credit given where it's due. Not for tags which I didn't make, for a model and texture that allowed them to make the tags.

I feel you Moses, Unfortunately, the textures and model DID go through Tool, even if you yourself didn't compile them (someone else did.)

Yes jesse, but if Dennis wants to talk legal standards then, by legal standards, he is required to give credit based on the copyright on the effort I put into making the model and textures which was in effect before they went through tool. Legally he is required to give credit.

http://chief-01.deviantart.com/art/Halo-Reach-Magnum-RESOURCES-182927557?q=gallery%3Achief-01%2F9409569&qo=9
If you look under the license section you will see it is licensed under my own creative commons which has been in effect since October 16, 2010

It's like saying I could compile a picture of top secret plans from apple into tool and they would become microsofts property and nullify any existing copyright. It doesn't work like that.

And I am happy to see my stuff used. It's been used here.
http://www.gta4-mods.com/weapons/halo-reach-m6g-magnum-f19218
and here
http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=128729

But they give credit.

There was a turbosquid download of my model with the uploader explicitly saying he MADE the content and I informed the staff It's mine and they took it down.
Edited by MosesofEgypt on Apr 6, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Edited by MosesofEgypt on Apr 6, 2013 at 12:58 PM

People can and will use your stuff without giving credits.
You are known on DA, what good could possibly come from having your name in the readme of a map for haloce?
Do something more constructive with your time, this is simply not important enough to be wasting your time with.
Hope that didnt come across as being rude, it was not meant to.

It didn't so don't worry. I know people will do that, I just want to nip anything in the bud that I see if possible because it isn't right. I haven't been on forums in literally years and the visits are far and few between. I usually am using my time for other, more productive things like making the things you see on my DA, studying for my upcoming ACT, and working. I'm just waiting for a final response from dennis to see what he has to say about what I said. He'll probably argue some crap about my magnum being a derivative work, but the texture was not derived from the original and is probably not even the same UVW so it is my own work.

you could watermark the inside of your models to prove it

Oh I've got plenty of proof it's mine. That's not the issue.

because the map does not work.

You have made a fan made model and texture of a product of something that is part of the intellectual property of Microsoft as part of the Halo game. You cannot obtain a copyright for it to begin with so you cannot license it.

Okay well from this point on my symbol will be trademarked under this creative commons license.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/

http://chief-01.deviantart.com/art/Moses-363903395

Anything I make I will put it on. It probably wont make a difference to people like dennis, but it's another layer. And you're right Dsali, but I don't stoop to that. Talentless hacks will only amount to talentless hacks so I don't care and I will not be wasting my breath any further in this thread.
Edited by MosesofEgypt on Apr 6, 2013 at 03:42 PM

Don't use damage effects, they won't sync online. This is not the way to do jetpack. The best way to do it is to go into max and create an animation of the biped being lifted, animating only the "bip01 pelvis" node. Now export it as a .JMA and create it as an animation. The run this script.

script continuous jetpack
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 0)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 0)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 1)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 1)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 2)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 2)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 3)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 3)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 4)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 4)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 5)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 5)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 6)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 6)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 7)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 7)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 8)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 8)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 9)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 9)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 10)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 10)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 11)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 11)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 12)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 12)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 13)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 13)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 14)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 14)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 15)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 15)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
(sleep_until (unit_get_current_flashlight_state (unit (list_get (players) 16)) 1))
(custom_animation (unit (list_get (players) 16)) "YOURANIMTIONGRAPHLOCATION" "NAMEOFTHEANIMATIONYOUCOMPILED" 1)
)

Now this checks if any player has their flashlight on. If they do, then it makes them play the animation of being lifted. But since it's an overlay, they can still aim\shoot\throw grenades\ ect ect.
For boost on vehicles, make the boost animation, add it to the vehicles animations, then at the top, hit add in the objects section, select the boost animation and set function to something like C out. Now go back to the vehicle tag, go to functions, add C out, and set it's scale to C in. Now go down to unit and set C in to "driver seat powered" Go down to vehicle and set C in to "crouch". Now save everything and you have boost.

Just trying to help. these will make the map sync correctly for all clients at every time. Tah duh.

+1

So what do you guys do besides taking other people's tags and putting it in other people's maps?

You guys are all being rather harsh to maurix... It may be a BG mod, but at least it is based of a legitimate bloodgulch remake that they wanted to bring to CE.
I for one, support this. Keep it up Maurix!