
Pepzee
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
Retired Halo Modder
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Posted: Jan 20, 2011 09:14 PM
Msg. 281 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy Not all things are going to be all sugar, spice, and everything nice. Perhaps Higuy will change his attitude for things when I give him this: http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5069Edited by pepzee on Jan 20, 2011 at 09:16 PM
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Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: Jan 20, 2011 09:23 PM
Msg. 282 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009 I don't know if CAD will release but he will usually tell you how to do it.
Also, you must know that my community name is Hunter, by now? Not crappy username on here which Dennis is too arrogant to let me change as he ignore's PM's and deletes new accounts when I let him know this one can be deleted... omg, the ironing is delicious. i wouldnt be surprised if the OP actually manages to accomplish something from this.
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Xoronatus
Joined: Dec 6, 2010
Taking a break
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Posted: Jan 20, 2011 11:38 PM
Msg. 283 of 1310
Sure, we're taking a bite that's probably too big for our skill levels, but we can make something cool if we work together.
Oh yeah by the way, Petera, are you also going include some firefight maps?
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HaloIsAHorribleGane
Joined: Nov 9, 2010
I'd rather play yahtzee
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 01:13 AM
Msg. 284 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009 I don't know if CAD will release but he will usually tell you how to do it.
Also, you must know that my community name is Hunter, by now? Not crappy username on here which Dennis is too arrogant to let me change as he ignore's PM's and deletes new accounts when I let him know this one can be deleted... arrogance arrogancing arrogance
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DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 01:42 AM
Msg. 285 of 1310
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Xoronatus
Joined: Dec 6, 2010
Taking a break
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 02:51 AM
Msg. 286 of 1310
Uh, that's just a random video??????
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ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010
Aye Ready
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 02:56 AM
Msg. 287 of 1310
with just over 33.000 views and is pretty funny tho.
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Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009
Discord: Holy Crust#4500
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 03:18 AM
Msg. 288 of 1310
So, anyone play Halo Reach here? Add me on XBOX LIVE. (PM me with your username.)
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PRPatxi
Joined: Oct 30, 2010
Dennis, free me from this suffering
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 04:40 AM
Msg. 289 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: jesse So, anyone play Halo Reach here? Add me on XBOX LIVE. (PM me with your username.) I can't waste my team on Reach, starting Univ soon(27) >.>
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 06:16 AM
Msg. 290 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: JulianQuote: --- Original message by: HiguyQuote: --- Original message by: Julian It's an ambitious project and I don't see what you're trying to do by criticizing his choice of team members and words. Nonetheless he takes it, which is admirable. I won't discourage an ambitious team that knows what their capable of. This team obviously does not. For one, you cannot rip physics from a game and then put it into halo. It's simply impossible without the original source code (which if you obtain it you are messing with illegal stuff bro) and a really good programmer. Second, your post is invalid. Not all things are going to be all sugar, spice, and everything nice. The team should do their research and find out what they can even do with this very limited engine first. Most projects can be undertaken in this engine, and any total conversion project is an ambitious one. Its possible, but obviously this team from the looks of it won't know a whole lot which makes it very slim that this will come out very well. Like I said, find out what your capable of actually doing before undertaking something so overwhelming and time consuming where you might not get very far after putting a considerable amount of energy into it. If this is so impossible, than why do you even care? You ask yourself, how is this going to effect you? If they A Fail, then so be it. It won't effect you in anyway, or hurt you at all. B, Succeed, then nothing goes on with you. Point being if you don't like it, don't download it. The main point of your argument seems to be that you want to protect them from failure, however disregarding his aspirations simply contradicts yourself. I just don't see the point of bagging on people who aspire to do things, simply because you don't think they can do it. Humans thrive on dreams. It's what makes us unique. I'm going to stop now because eventually you'll make me look like an idiot due to your longer time in the community and I'll be disregarded as a troll after that. So no, sorry. I feel shame on your behalf for being one of the people that keep forcing their opinions on the OP. Keep it in mind Higuy, keep it in mind.. Edited by Julian on Jan 20, 2011 at 09:32 PM First of all. You are right, this does not affect me at all, but you failed to see the meaning of my post. It's not bashing them, its rather telling them that she could reconsider their ideas. I believe the first words of my post contained "I won't discourage". Reconsidering their ideas will allow them to achieve their "dream" faster. Second, you are right again. I again could care less if the mod was completed at all, it does not affect. But like I stated above, I was simply telling them to reconsider some ideas so that they will complete it. Lastly, I was never forcing my opinion down on anyone. Once again, I was giving a suggestion that they should reconsider.
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HaloIsAHorribleGane
Joined: Nov 9, 2010
I'd rather play yahtzee
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 09:12 AM
Msg. 291 of 1310
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Petera275
Joined: Dec 7, 2010
Some things just don't work...
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 11:35 AM
Msg. 292 of 1310
In terms of maps, there will be firefight, MP and SP In reply to higuy, I will not insult you as much as I'd like to. I have done my research and know the limits, and yet the extremely wide varety of possibilities also. In terms of ripping the physics, they will probably stay the same. As I put, don't ask. They said they could do it, not how. Also, in terms of Head Noob, I guess any help is welcome. I know he uses easy halo scripter, it was posted earlier in the thread. In terms of what I am doing, I am developing 3d models, textures, animations and scripting. You're welcome, world. :-P Oh, yeah. Also, please GO AWAY all you spammers and trolls. In terms of capabilities, I found yet another here http://www.xfire.com/video/3dbd53/.P.S. Sorry Hunter I knew you had a different name but wasn't sure what it was....
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UBE Chief
Joined: Sep 28, 2009
Raising the bar, one kill at a time.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 01:50 PM
Msg. 293 of 1310
Although I would like to see this succeed, I'm quite afraid that it will fail. I am willing to help a little bit as I am also a newbie map maker/modder, so I can just give you the beta/prototype of the Plasma Repeater I have on one of my latest maps (The_Library), but, sadly, it is just a modified Plasma Rifle from CMT.
So yes, work your best on this overly massive project, I really hope you succeed, but I really doubt it will. Sorry, but I'm being a realist that this will simply not work, but don't give up trying to make it work.
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Corvette19
Joined: Feb 27, 2007
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 02:43 PM
Msg. 294 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: Ubergoober
I think everyone here should be encouraging Petera275, halomaps needs new enthusiasm, what happens when veteran map makers decide to move on or decide that issues in life are more important than making maps and stop producing as has happened all so often (more recently 'mooseguy')? Who will fill the void? Sure Petera maybe biting off more than he can chew, and this is obvious to the veteran members, but instead of sarcasm, put downs and insults, how about useful suggestions and support? I've just read the entire thread for the first time and sometimes I'm astonished at the level of negativity projected upon someone who proposes a new idea and tries to drum up support. It really is disappointing. Everyone who reads and posts on these forums has a common interest in Halo and creativity. We do all need to get along. Custom edition maps would evolve and be produced so much quicker if everyone put aside their ego's and worked together, sharing their creations and knowledge. YES, everyone who creates deserves credit, respect and recognition, but at the expense of preventing and delaying new creations? No. I don't know the numbers but considering the age of the program I'm guessing that Halo CE will slowly die out and not many will remember the individuals involved in each map, however, most will remember the successes, the maps and creations where map makers collaborated and produced quality products above and beyond what Bungie ever thought the Halo CE engine would produce. So veterans, share your knowledge, encourage enthusiasm and creativity, just think, what are you really trying to achieve by telling someone they're an 'idiot' or that they're 'stupid'? Trying to make yourself feel bigger? Trying to limit Halo CE's development and progression? How about telling them they're being overly ambitious but maybe you can offer your help. I'm just so tired of all the negativity in some of these posts, we all have a common interest, lets just create and enjoy :)
Edited by Ubergoober on Jan 19, 2011 at 08:57 PM I'd totally support this if it was for actual custom stuff instead of stupid remakes
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
I Approve This Message.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 02:52 PM
Msg. 295 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: Sergeant 1337 this project will die along with other good ones. i had the same thing happen to me. I must, sadly, second these words. I also have to agree with Higuy and Corvette...
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Xander92
Joined: May 31, 2010
I`m Russian,you maggot.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 03:29 PM
Msg. 296 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: HiguyQuote: --- Original message by: Julian It's an ambitious project and I don't see what you're trying to do by criticizing his choice of team members and words. Nonetheless he takes it, which is admirable. I won't discourage an ambitious team that knows what their capable of. This team obviously does not. For one, you cannot rip physics from a game and then put it into halo. It's simply impossible without the original source code (which if you obtain it you are messing with illegal stuff bro) and a really good programmer. Second, your post is invalid. Not all things are going to be all sugar, spice, and everything nice. The team should do their research and find out what they can even do with this very limited engine first. Most projects can be undertaken in this engine, and any total conversion project is an ambitious one. Its possible, but obviously this team from the looks of it won't know a whole lot which makes it very slim that this will come out very well. Like I said, find out what your capable of actually doing before undertaking something so overwhelming and time consuming where you might not get very far after putting a considerable amount of energy into it. I`m totally agree with you higuy. i really appreciate your attempt Petera275 but its a waste of time unless you`re trying to make a total conversation on a such limited and old engine like this. The only thing i can recommend you is to try making this port to another engine like UNREAL 3 and using UDK,its totally friendly and easy,at least i think so and it much more advancing of course.
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Petera275
Joined: Dec 7, 2010
Some things just don't work...
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 03:48 PM
Msg. 297 of 1310
1) FOR GOD'S SAKE IT'S AN IMITATION NOT A FREAKING REMAKE 2) This really isn't that huge. Just read throughout the thread 3) Please stop the negative comments 4) I don't think I'm wasting time. I am happy with CE's more than acceptable capabilities 5) Other engines have been considered: H2V, Unreal, Unity, Kodu Game Lab and a couple more which I can't remember :-P. In any case, I found the limits perfectly acceptable, as I found CE most suitable to what I wanted. And I don't want a remake. It will have Reach weapons and maps, but so what? I'm not replicating EVERYTHING.
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SlappyThePirate
Joined: Aug 24, 2009
You are irritating, I'll release nothing
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 03:50 PM
Msg. 298 of 1310
Petera, like I said again and again, you can't recreate Reach, but you CAN go ahead and make some reachlike assets. And again, the first step is making some assets.
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Xander92
Joined: May 31, 2010
I`m Russian,you maggot.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 05:22 PM
Msg. 299 of 1310
FOR GOD'S SAKE i`m not trying to be negative. i`m just offering for you something better. Unless you`re not trying to convert the whole SP to Halo CE and the new features - i`m cool with that. And just like Slappy said, you CAN go ahead and make some reachlike assets like models,bipeds,weapons,textures and co.. good luck.
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Xoronatus
Joined: Dec 6, 2010
Taking a break
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 07:38 PM
Msg. 300 of 1310
So, we're doing multiplayer first? Oh right, so we are now collecting tags. Alright, so for the Covenant, are you going to make some Reach ones or are we just going to use some of the current h2 ones or CMT ones. etc.? Edited by Xoronatus on Jan 21, 2011 at 07:38 PM
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tibarion
Joined: Jan 11, 2011
=DG= Yoyorast Sniper, Hoster of RPG Maps
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 07:41 PM
Msg. 301 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: HaloIsAHorribleGaneQuote: --- Original message by: Petera275 I am talking about outside that, very basic programming- BIPED MODELS, PROJECTILES, ANIMATIONS AND MAP BUILDING ... I need help on making these lifeless models work, and ANIMATING cutscenes. uhhh, that's not programming. programming involves using a language to develop computer applications and programs Thats a developers job, programmers just insert the code into the game, manual labor *cough* ect ect. Why don't you just make a single player map for each mission like cmt did? And just use what you got to make balanced reach weps and vehicles?
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 07:51 PM
Msg. 302 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: tibarionQuote: --- Original message by: HaloIsAHorribleGaneQuote: --- Original message by: Petera275 I am talking about outside that, very basic programming- BIPED MODELS, PROJECTILES, ANIMATIONS AND MAP BUILDING ... I need help on making these lifeless models work, and ANIMATING cutscenes. uhhh, that's not programming. programming involves using a language to develop computer applications and programs Thats a developers job, programmers just insert the code into the game, manual labor *cough* ect ect. Why don't you just make a single player map for each mission like cmt did? And just use what you got to make balanced reach weps and vehicles? None of you know anything and are completely wrong apart from Gane. This "programming" argument has already taken place. I wouldn't bother Gane. The guy seems to lack to tell the different- even when told - between two COMPLETELY different aspects of game development.
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 10:12 PM
Msg. 303 of 1310
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 10:23 PM
Msg. 304 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: Julian You asked for something that wasn't a remake. Quite frankly I don't see any of these as remakes. Their mods or expansions using assets.
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doompig444
Joined: Mar 22, 2010
Mornië alantië
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 10:36 PM
Msg. 305 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: Julian I misworded, sorry. "remake or related to one" one being a franchise of some kind. Halo is a franchise. Nonetheless your point is valid. Have fun dancing. What?? Halo CE's assets remade in Halo CE?? PREPOSTEROUS!!
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Ubergoober
Joined: Oct 11, 2010
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 11:03 PM
Msg. 306 of 1310
oh c'mon guys, this is supposed to be a constructive thread where people issue ideas for the purpose of reaching a common goal not where you turkies try and out-flame each other in the nicest way possible. Set aside your over-inflated ego's, yes you are very knowledgable but let's focus on creation. Nothing positive ever comes from these rediculous tit-for-tat arguements. For those who obviously have superior knowledge in mapmaking, make suggestions and contribute in a positive way or just don't post. If these ambitious gentlemen find that their proposal is too difficult, then they fail and they learn and might decide to take on another project but how that effects the more experienced 'elite' map-makers and why they feel the need to come into this thread and post negativity is beyond me. Just helpful suggestions and positive contributions, thanks :)
Edited by Ubergoober on Jan 21, 2011 at 11:04 PM
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Petera275
Joined: Dec 7, 2010
Some things just don't work...
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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 04:22 AM
Msg. 307 of 1310
Once again thanks to everyone actually contributing. If anybody mentions programming again I will hunt you down then shoot you then mutilate your already disformed corpse.
Also, yes I do know the difference between scripting and programming now, I just didn't bother to edit all of my earlier mentions. So what if a guy doesn't know technical terms? He can still understand how it's done!
The above quote was from quite early on, I can tell.
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UBE Chief
Joined: Sep 28, 2009
Raising the bar, one kill at a time.
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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 04:29 AM
Msg. 308 of 1310
Petera, have you considered using my beta/prototype of the Plasma Repeater for study? I know it's not much, but hey, it's a start.
And as I said in my previous posts, it's just a modded Plasma Rifle, but it acts like the Plasma Repeater (in terms of firing).
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Petera275
Joined: Dec 7, 2010
Some things just don't work...
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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 08:13 AM
Msg. 309 of 1310
I have indeed. It would be awesomez for campaign. :-D
Should I bother re-texturing or replacing the 3D model tho?!
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 09:41 AM
Msg. 310 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: Petera275 Once again thanks to everyone actually contributing. If anybody mentions programming again I will hunt you down then shoot you then mutilate your already disformed corpse.
PROGRAMMING CANNOT BE DONE IN THIS ENGINE !
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
I Approve This Message.
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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 09:59 AM
Msg. 311 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: HiguyQuote: --- Original message by: Petera275 Once again thanks to everyone actually contributing. If anybody mentions programming again I will hunt you down then shoot you then mutilate your already disformed corpse.
PROGRAMMING CANNOT BE DONE IN THIS ENGINE !
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Xander92
Joined: May 31, 2010
I`m Russian,you maggot.
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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 10:03 AM
Msg. 312 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: TM_L0d3manQuote: --- Original message by: MoooseGuyQuote: --- Original message by: HiguyQuote: --- Original message by: Petera275 Once again thanks to everyone actually contributing. If anybody mentions programming again I will hunt you down then shoot you then mutilate your already disformed corpse.
PROGRAMMING CANNOT BE DONE IN THIS ENGINE ! Ave Wim. Edited by Xander92 on Jan 22, 2011 at 10:03 AM
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
I Approve This Message.
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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 10:06 AM
Msg. 313 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: Xander92Quote: --- Original message by: TM_L0d3manQuote: --- Original message by: MoooseGuyQuote: --- Original message by: HiguyQuote: --- Original message by: Petera275 Once again thanks to everyone actually contributing. If anybody mentions programming again I will hunt you down then shoot you then mutilate your already disformed corpse.
PROGRAMMING CANNOT BE DONE IN THIS ENGINE ! Ave Wim. Edited by Xander92 on Jan 22, 2011 at 10:03 AM
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HaloIsAHorribleGane
Joined: Nov 9, 2010
I'd rather play yahtzee
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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 10:07 AM
Msg. 314 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: MoooseGuyQuote: --- Original message by: Xander92Quote: --- Original message by: TM_L0d3manQuote: --- Original message by: MoooseGuyQuote: --- Original message by: HiguyQuote: --- Original message by: Petera275 Once again thanks to everyone actually contributing. If anybody mentions programming again I will hunt you down then shoot you then mutilate your already disformed corpse.
PROGRAMMING CANNOT BE DONE IN THIS ENGINE ! I'm gay Edited by Xander92 on Jan 22, 2011 at 10:03 AM
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 10:09 AM
Msg. 315 of 1310
Quote: --- Original message by: HaloIsAHorribleGaneQuote: --- Original message by: MoooseGuyQuote: --- Original message by: Xander92Quote: --- Original message by: TM_L0d3manQuote: --- Original message by: MoooseGuyQuote: --- Original message by: HiguyQuote: --- Original message by: Petera275 Once again thanks to everyone actually contributing. If anybody mentions programming again I will hunt you down then shoot you then mutilate your already disformed corpse.
PROGRAMMING CANNOT BE DONE IN THIS ENGINE ! Ave Wim Edited by Xander92 on Jan 22, 2011 at 10:03 AM Im gay
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