Smarter AI? Of course it's possible. I've already made my AI shoot faster, aim better, and throw more grenades than the standard AI.

He doesn't mean that, if you want them to behave like aimbots that would take a few value changes, that's the most stupid way of saying you improved AI.
He means how the react, their way of behaving, not how unfair skilled they are.
Smart means something else than skilled, smart as in how they react, how they organise stuff.
That, would need a totally different way of modifieing, thus the discussion.
Edited by BeachParty clan on Feb 15, 2009 at 02:36 PM

Yes, please give us your interpretation of AI enhancements.

I'd rather not get you guys hopes up. So, I'll just state: "Dont get your hopes up".

Well, the AI enhancements is exactly how BP stated they would how the behave, react to their enviroments, threat level, e.t.c. Most AI are brain dead and I often get the feeling Bungie just put the AI in for something to shoot at. Well, for the AI enhancements one of the most obvious would be the ability to drive vehicles, so far I have marines driving hog's flawlessly, no collisions e.t.c. And this is in a large cave, with a bunch of rocks and stuff. Another way would be the inclusion of how a elite leads the grunts in his squad, an idea of this would be, an elite waves forward an advance, and the grunts in his squad move forward, in a search and destroy behavior or even in a pincer movement. Most of you may be thinking how is this possible? Exactly, I do not know, but now is the best time as any other to ask if it could.

My theory for the elite commanding grunts is this: Remove the berserk animation, and replace it with a advance animation, the grunts along side him now use their (B) firing positions and the old (A) firing positions are nullified, hence in battle a grunt squad would move towards the enemy. This could be done, theoretically, with moving also, the animation, or status of the elite (which would be a seperate squad in the encounter) activates a command for the grunt squad, or certain units in the squad while other units move to other areas. Hence, many things such as fall-back, advance, certain tactics could be portrayed in-game. As I have said before this is theoretical and will no doubt be dis-proven by someone and will be cut from the mod.

Now, back to tuning my guitar............

If only it were that simple................

I guess we have to modifie the terrain in such a way, that there is only 1 tactic possible, like the surrounding tactic, we should make them spawn when entering a trigger zone and set the movement positions that way so that they come in a surrounding position, BUT also give enough terrain cover to let the walk to it, otherwise there'd be no point

So you're suggesting that we should change the BSP so that the AI can only go one way? And also you're suggesting that "movement" positions work with trigger volumes? I'm just trying to clarify what you said. It's kind of hard to read...

I dont think we need to modify the bsp, a simple placement of certain scenery would work. As if the Covenant are defending a position then they will use the areas easiest to defend, and not stand right in the middle of the open. Also, BP, what happened to your net last night? You were laggin' like hell.

I have two questions.

1. Are you going to name the maps c10, c20, etc. and make them replace the original campaign maps, or do you plan on giving them their own names, requiring dev to start?

2. The Elite combat form can't strafe from side to side, move diagonally, or run backwards. Have you fixed that for the mod?

1) Yes, they are named c10, c20 e.t.c. And yes, they will replace the original campaign maps. Either that or we will place a script command at the end of each map that loads the next map, with the final map ending as per normal.

2) The only way to view that the Flood cannot run diagonally, backwards e.t.c., is to view it in a 3rd person perspective. However, to the point, those anims may be implemented as extras (As they do not effect gameplay as a whole), if we (L28) wishes to do it.

What?! Why should we replace the original campaign? It'll make ours less appealing when SPv2 comes out.

True, ok, time for Plan B. We'll make individual campaign maps, and at the end of each have the command map_name . This seems the most logical to me. Also, Gamma, I'm gonna need your help with something for c40.

All right. By the way, I'll continue c10 after I finish my homework. Shouldn't take too long.

I've sinned. I opened 3Dsmax again and i'm working on halo 3 perms =(



Oh well, I'm kinda trying to relearn what I forgot since 3dsmax 7, I used that before and I just downloaded 3dsmax 2009, looks different feels different and I'm not used to it anymore...

I could go try modelling the Human Flood form with armor, if mythril hasn't started on it yet

Also... is there a gbximporter that also imports the bones?

Ghosts GBXModel Importer.

Ok, BP, I'm sure Mythril could use the help anyway.

Minor update: Bsp errors aren't happening anymore for some reason. Polamee is going to start on d20 tomorrow hopefully.

I went and played through the level "Cortana" in Halo 3 on my Xbox360 yesterday, and after seeing the gravemind moments up close in good quality for the first time in a long time (I hate that level) I don't reccomend it for the FP view. It actually zooms out instead of in, and the greenish tint makes it dark and difficult to see. I do like the blurred effect that you already had, but I don't think it needs anything more than that. I recommend just making the HUD itself green (like the Elites' HUD in Halo 3), adding the blur, and leaving it at that. Example of elite's HUD: http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1509/H3_MP_LastResort_FP1.jpg
Edited by Karrde on Feb 17, 2009 at 08:57 PM

I suggest the hud pukish pale.

And the blur cant be perfectly mimicked, so it can be shaped blur

Ok. I'm working on d20 right now. Using a50 BSPs, as the d20 ones already are damaged/show signs of infection.

ive mananged to enhance my elite.. somehow... hes shooting and jumping to the side in the same time. it looked i made the elite smarter, but then i placed a squad of them on a cliff -_-

@black doom: Right..............

Progress Report: d20 is now in production, c40 near to completion also.

il post a pic if you want to.

@black doom: No, thanks anyway however.

On-topic: Starting work on c40 again now and updated first post.

Yea I can confirm the bipeds, though I tried to make a testmodel to check the export out again, and the problem is that I get that message "no geometry to export" So whatever I'm doing wrong, I need some help on the exporting and maybe rigging (not sure) as modelling it is a piece of cake.

Also, as I was messing with the halo 3 armors (check 2 last pages of the biped WIPS topic) I could make a floodified MC as an easter egg or so, I mean, if we wanna play as flood and conquer the whole galaxy, we should floodify john =P

Also about the HUD, I've made it like this so far: The HUD has a convulation effect (warplike, the zoom thing like blur) and the HUD should yet be decided on (my FEAR 2 HUD is Green/Yellow now, you guys have to decide, means, as a team) When you get damage, the hud blurs even more so that you need to get cover to recover from the adrenaline/shock/the blur

This Campaign looks promising.

Oh and before I forget, how about that I'll floodify the rest of it too? flood grunts (you can use the normal AI actor tags, just change team to flood) flood jackels, etc etc. Because We're progressing in the campaign, and winning, wich means our army should expand right?
Unlike Sargeant Avery Johnsen, wich nerve system was destroyed because of the use of a full box of plasma grenades, we can floodify anything

Link the actual model geometry to the bip01 bone. That should get rid of the "no geometry to export" error.

And if you're going to follow Johnson's backstory, the grunts and jackals can't be floodified because of some thing with their blood or something like that.

I thought jackals had bird like bones and their body wouldn't handle it if they were floodified. I guess the same goes for grunts (though they turn into carriers too i think)

flood=calcium

Yes, Flood need calcium, and Jackals lack the sufficient calcium to be turned into a Flood, and grunts are turned into Carrier forms. Trivia, Jackals are still harvested by the Flood as the minor calcium elements in their bones can be used for building flood biomass, or adding calcium to carrier forms.

Also, BP, dont bother with making floodified grunts, just focus on the human form for now.

Aren't floodified gruntos just carriers?

Anyway, I have (most of) the exterior of a Plan to Escape done. Expect pics soon.

They don't contain enough biomass for the flood to house i think

Grunts are converted into Carriers as when the carriers explode its the grunts methane tanks going bye bye. Also, thats where the Flood infection forms are housed, in the methan tank, except its been enlarged by Flood biomass.

But withdout the methane tank would'nt the grunt die?

The grunts already dead when he's infected.......

And Flood do not breath.

Update: A Plan to escape is now 10% complete. Also, we need an unwrapper, is anyone willing to help?
Edited by Lone Warrior on Feb 20, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Lone Warrior has let me post pics of the new A Plan to Escape D20 exterior (which is being developed by me), so here goes:





Take note that this is NOT final, in fact some of the stuff in here might not be in the final at all. Also, I'm working on the interior, and will post more screenies soon.

Bye!

Wasn't put in-game because it doesn't make any sense. But still would be a major pain in the arse.