You sir are on your way to breathing new life into the flood and i like that. I really think you have taken the flood and turned it into what bungie had originally envisioned the flood as being (scary). It will be interesting to see what you have in store for the rest of the flood units.

Damn! That looks really nice there. I would suggest a few things though, make the torso smaller, right now it looks not porportioned right to the rest of the body. The mandibles look like they are from an Elite, and it doesn't look right on a Human. Definately keep them on there, but don't make them so much like an Elite.
That's about it.
Edited by UnevenElefant5 on Apr 6, 2009 at 03:35 PM

Actually, I like the whole hunched over look, it looks pretty sinister looking. So, we going for edited models then? Or custom, or what =o.

Also, BP, when are you getting back on xfire?

Add the flood pale color.

That looks absolutely nothing like flood. At least at some pants.

Sweet zombie you got there Beach party.
but his mouth reminds me of this :

and maybe put some kind of camo shants on him so he dosen't run around naked.


Edited by llswampyll on Apr 6, 2009 at 07:06 PM
Edited by llswampyll on Apr 6, 2009 at 07:07 PM

NNEEHGAH
its tanks face

realy that thing is going to give me nightmares

that scares me bad

I'm going to re-iterate some of the stuff he said. For one, its not final defintely, two, he still has to add the pants and he arm tenticles.

lol

lol

Not even crytek uses 4096x4096.

Its completely ridculous. You have no clue what your talking about.

No. They are not needed. You wouldn't be able to see most of the detail anyway in the heat of combat. And even if it makes the models look slightly better, nobody will care.

I can't think of any next gen game that uses them real time :|

You can't even begin to texture well enough to even use that resolution for a 5 year old game engine. Look, theres several uvw errors on your skin, theres a lack of material definition, and is just overall bland.

what's wrong with making them that res? for starters, i hate every inch of blur, secondly, halo can handle it, that's what i showed but it only appears when you're... really close up yea
i didn't made them for the heat of combat, what i do is for the cause of my movies, so it does have some use
and what's the big issue? I'm the one making them
I'll release a test map soon to prove that it doesn't have such an impact on your gfx card, untill then let's refrain from that

about the model, I did use the halo 2 marine armor parts (obviously) since it still has to look a bit like the halo characters
I didn't knew the marines had a new armor in halo 2, like the mark 5/6, as i didn't really paid attention to that, nor do i care other then that it's looking more realistic, but whatever
I could, start modelling the halo 3 marine armor, and let caboose texture it (he's hardcore UNSC fan lol) or just make totally new armor, or use GRAW 2 armor, or look at the current american army... or just keep the halo 2 armor and finish the armor parts... well the little update here, is that I rigged it and put it ingame, so that'll save some work afterwards, i still have to edit the skin when i modifie the model, but anyways that's for my convenience

I'll change the head a bit to make it more human, as the pic posted above is what i sorta imagined it to be, but yea it looks like worn out mandibles now lol, so i might shorten it or whatever will look good
I've also added the 3 tentacles to the hand, starting from the wrist so that it fits the bones of the original human flood, my rig on the tentacle still look weird, but i'll solve that later
so bit about the armor, it's half naked anyways, i can still change it in any way as i'm working on the body, what armor should i make for it?

for the rest... I've just got myself a flatscreen xD yea I'm happy with that

How's the flood infection form? I'm working on a model, for my movie I've planned, and will post a render of it soon, but it totally doesn't look like the original, more spider like, we could use that, or not, but what's the thing of new flood infection form? never heard of it again

oh and, i made some new gore textures that look good, so i might give all flood forms an overhaul, i keep learning new texturing stuff =3
Edited by BeachParty clan on Apr 7, 2009 at 07:50 AM

PS, the armor that is currently edited for the use on the flood model is using original marine textures, ofcourse that will change, but it's a placeholder to show something other then a white block, caboose will take care of marine armor/clothing textures
Edited by BeachParty clan on Apr 7, 2009 at 07:52 AM

When your really close up is when you will need as much fps as you can get, the last thing you need is a bunch of super hi res slo-mo enemies shooting you.

Most of us already know what our graphics cards can handle, and i can tell you right now, mine can barley handle that.

If your using it for movies then make a lower res one for gameplay and use that for cut scenes

There is absolutely no reason at for you to keep those textures like that. Don't get me wrong, I love what you have there, but I want to make sure I can play with it without making my computer cry.

Hey Beach. I need your HUD. Get on xfire >:l

Thats why Bungie made the primary and secondary detail maps, they show up when you get up close so the original texture doesnt look so "blurry".


And yeah well "handle it", I wanna see how it can handle it when you get alot of those guys running around shooting rockets with a high poly and full of shaders background with lens flare and dynamic lights. Believe us, its just not good to have them that high res.
Edited by _TheArbiter_ on Apr 7, 2009 at 04:59 PM

@ the armor, I'd prefer it if you stuck to Halo armor. After all, this is a mod for Halo Custom Edition.

@BP Yeah our gfx cards can "handle" it maybe, but not well. I could run Halo with 4096x4096 textures, but I'm not gonna get nearly as good of a frame rate as with normal textures. Do what Drillinstructor said and use detail maps to make it look better if you need to.

This.
Also, I really don't like the model much. I'm not saying it doesn't look good; it does. I just don't think it looks like the flood. At all. It really does look like an RE5 zombie.

that new flood form reminds me of dead space... that game was scary as hell.

But then again, it is halo Custom Edition. And that is halo armor.

It was a response to:


I'm pretty sure that GRAW 2 armor isn't halo armor...

Yeah, no GRAW 2 armor. I hate modern stuff in Halo. It just feels out of place. If you want to put modern stuff in, make everything modern so it all fits, but don't put GRAW 2 marines fighting covenant and flood.

true true, thanks for the posts, i'll stick to the marine armor from halo 2, and if caboose got the time remake the ones from halo 3

I didn't thought of detail maps, that's interesting, i'll do that yes and make seperate models for the cutscenes, very good idea

the models are high poly, but i'm also using bumpmaps that can be used with specific shaders, so don't worry it's 'baked' as some name it =P


I could aswell floodifie the crewman, make it more realistic and add some tools like a crowbar, half life idea, or like doom 3 whatever, add new weapons, meh that can be in some extra level idk, for when i'm bored, i'll try keeping it as halo-ish as possible though


I've been thinking about something to counter the hunters with, remember Left 4 Dead? the Tanks are just people with alot more muscle tissue, wich equals biomass or whatever, like how the random tentacles on the right arm appears, that's how the muscles could appear.
Thing is, I could model something like that, and rig it as hunter to let it behave the same but just without the shooting, only the bashing
would that be a good idea to counter hunters?



Oh and killa and lone, i've sent a pm with the same testmap that contains the h3 hud as i've sent clsgrunt, so you could have some fun with that.
lone, the hud isn't floodified in there, i will send you one later with the flood version of it, the only difference is the unit interface settings but critical one.
rememba, as i said to grunt too, it contains old stuff as i don't have all the time to make a new map every time i update, so it contains the hud with the old weapon stuff and very outdated halo 3 bipeds, wich you can have but is already outdated, would you want some of it you can always ask for the new versions, probably everything is updated by now lol
it also contains the covenant crates with physics, so try some spawning all and bash em lol, might be some more suprises in there idk i didn't check the map on it's content since the lack of time... well that's it for my post
Edited by BeachParty clan on Apr 9, 2009 at 06:20 AM

Yeah, but you gotta put the health down a bit. They have about 8000 health, and hunters really arent that powerful. Good thinking though

Juggernaught maybe, I mean, all it is is a bigger version of the carrier form.

And I'll take a look through that test map and get a few stuff in-game.

Its easier to model your own flood then trying to copy one, since you dont know where all the details are.

What's with everything being added from other games? Those aren't even flood, for god's sake. A huge, buff zombie =/= a person's body was taken over by a parasite.

LOL

He is just basing it off that idea. and zombies=flood

Flood are a parasitic life form that takes control over the central nervous system, Zombies are re-animated dead.

won't take up any tagspace. It's still pointless though.

They walk like zombies, look like zombies, and sound like zombies. Im gonna call them zombies.

Oh not another "What are the Flood, zombie or parasite?" argument......