the back part that is straight up and down in that structure. make it cut in somewhere even if only a little bit. I think that is what it is missing.

It's missing depth!

lol i am a genius

The horizontal pulse has me confused.

that beam is just a placeholder, i'm gonna make that energy beam part of the bsp and it's gonna have better effects

the concept is based on this

Ah so the beam will not be continuous then. From what I gather it will just be something to look like it's transferring a high energy stream for power for the structure then correct?

Yeah that's what I would do. Just make it an animated scenery. Should work great. Plus, it would reduce BSP polies.

Maybe Rotate it Forward so the long part is sticking straight up to make the beam look right like the other towers in the pictures. Or put something in the back and put the beam between them. Or even better add the other tower back in underneath it.
making it taller.
Edited by jackrabbit on Apr 9, 2013 at 07:57 PM

better, how about you add some more features to the structure, maybe ribbing or something

Love the new structure! Looks like a really creative take on the "usual" Forerunner design.

I thought about it after looking at the zoomed-out picture, but what if you made the light beams
emit energy in pulses (see Infinity in the default maps), instead?
Then, it'd look more like the two beams are actually related to each other, and everything would
look more dynamic.... What do you think?

Like this.

this.

this so much.

the vertical will be an beam emitter like those from "infinity", "valhalla", etc... but i'm trying to find an HD version, if i don't find it i will simply do it myself

the horizontal one will be a continuous stream of energy, but it will obviously be more detailed and thicker, like the one from tempest






woah, that looks awesome!
you got that model by any chance? :D




I'm not capable of doing something like that... at least not yet :-|
but let me see what i can do
i will practice forerunner architecture some more
Edited by ChBgt909 on Apr 9, 2013 at 08:16 PM

I must ask. Do you work in poly or mesh mode? I noticed that when I switched to poly from mesh it made doing things such as that ever so much easier.

Next question. Do you use boolean or proboolean at all? I use it a bit to cut/add better shapes and details into my geometry.

Errors can be reduced by making the surrounding co-planar polies into single polies where the object will be cut or added. While many people do not recommend having large scale polies, if you re-triangulate the large scale polies before cutting there should be no errors produced from what I have noticed. I rarely have to target weld or even remove unneeded vertices doing it this way. The couldn't update edge errors are most likely from spikes I assume? Those sometimes get created if you don't retriangulate the surrounding polies. Not saying you have to use it, it's your decision, but from my experience, if you get use to it, it is faster than cutting details in I think.

You know being that its only for looks there's quite a a lot of stuff you could get away with as far as looks go.

On another note I think you need to put some forerunner cover on the bridge. not on top but on the sides like railing of some sort. For cover.

This map is reminding me of daybreak in a way. just missing some man cannons.
Edited by jackrabbit on Apr 9, 2013 at 09:30 PM

yeah i know, i got to realize that when i created "imposing" and "Core"

i've been using both boolean and pro-boolean for quite a while
the "couldn't update edges" errors weren't too common in my situation, the likely ones where some triangles that were too "thin" and even tho they had good mapping, the radiosity rejected them

only this map was the exception since it's use wasn't necessary
Edited by ChBgt909 on Apr 9, 2013 at 09:36 PM

Gotcha. Well, it's looking great so far. Keep it up.

I don't know why, but your model reminds me mass effect on some part. Open environnement, with many space and big structure. That's very VERY AWESOME ! Realy nice job that's awesome !

it obviously looks like that because of the long distance, the textures look just fine from the game area

I also thinkl the structure deserves a better unwrapping, or it's own texture

Yes, if i don't find a fitting textures i will have to do a custom texture myself...

Now... tbh i wasn't happy with that model so i made something new... how about this? you like it?

on the top angled part, have a thinner piece undercut it with a more basic shape. Also, that perfectly square part. Maybe at least make a slight chamfer there just so it doesn't come to a crazy corner like that. I know that some forerunner uses those corners, but that area just doesn't look right to me with that 90 degree angle there. The one on the bottom is probably okay, but the top one is the one buggin me.

I think it actually looks a little over-complicated, especially with it being divided into two...

Like the added engravings and the extra holes makes it look more massive than your earlier
designs, but ... it feels like you carved a little too much out of what you just had before.

Maybe you could make the two "halves" join together somewhere in the middle, instead?

Why not put glass between those two structures?

Mapped!

WOW, it's looking great bgt!

In game!

Wow that looks great!

That looks better :D