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bourrin33
Joined: Oct 19, 2009

HEK not installed tho


Posted: Feb 21, 2013 05:05 AM    Msg. 281 of 915       
I think you should import the sceneries in max and use them as BSP...
With envt shaders then bumps.


bourrin33
Joined: Oct 19, 2009

HEK not installed tho


Posted: Feb 21, 2013 05:27 AM    Msg. 282 of 915       
Quote: --- Original message by: Lestat
Quote: --- Original message by: bourrin33
you should import the sceneries in max and use them as BSP...

1. That would create so many BSP errors. So. Many. Errors.
you can make the materials uncollidables and create a more simple invisible collision
2. Some objects have physics, some have animations. Neither can exist in a BSP.
keep those
3. We want the final version of the map to be easily modifiable by as many people as possible. Requiring people to have to recompile the BSP out of Max would just over complicate things.

And you can add an unused second BSP if you have tagspace.
Just saying to improve graphics, you're not forced to do it.


bourrin33
Joined: Oct 19, 2009

HEK not installed tho


Posted: Feb 21, 2013 05:46 AM    Msg. 283 of 915       
Find a slave to do collision models since it's simple, then link to the object and it's done


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Feb 21, 2013 06:10 PM    Msg. 284 of 915       
Quote: --- Original message by: waffles
If I had the time and effort, I could do a tutorial on what I've learned in my own experience, tbh the renderer you choose can make all the difference, and welp! I've jumped on the vray bandwagon, and I can say little needs to be done in the form of "fixing" errors when rendering lightmaps. All it comes down to is how detailed you want the shading.

BUT, there is the fact that CE's uv utilization and optimization is absolute garbage. See several h3 scenarios with 1 lightmap bitmap, actually using all the usable area of the texture, and prioritizing Larger area lighting over smaller, and vise versa.

Using OS's lightmap uv importing, you can completely re-map the stock uv pages, and overwrite the old. And before anybody says anything about OS vs Stock, the command is not going to break stock maps, and won't force you to use OS. Its merely a tool to modify EXISTING UV's within the sbsp tag.

Halo 3 did all lighting outside of the engine, seeing as we have the tools, theres no reason we cant.

As to the topic of the scenery objects and graphics, you can technically achieve the same results through baking details or lighting from the normal maps without potentially breaking development for more error fixing. And WITH OS its a better idea to make use of the scenery objects anyway.

When will you be online?


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Feb 22, 2013 06:31 PM    Msg. 285 of 915       
I calls you Chris Handsome. See I watch your show all the time. I ain't looking fo' no little boy's, I'm looking for man's butt.


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com


Posted: Feb 22, 2013 10:02 PM    Msg. 286 of 915       
Zteam weapons I c, am I right?

I can send you fixed BR and AR for the H3 Zteam weapons. It fixes there melees. I still haven't got around to fixing the BRs reload though


altis94
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

Join my Discord https://discord.gg/GDVEaRD


Posted: Feb 26, 2013 03:50 PM    Msg. 287 of 915       
This happens when ripping with hek+ sometimes. Try checking the vehicle and model animations tags, maybe they have messed up functions.


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Feb 26, 2013 04:53 PM    Msg. 288 of 915       
Waffles, any news on the lighting?


The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 03:16 PM    Msg. 289 of 915       
You need to stop running lightmaps on debug.


The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 04:32 PM    Msg. 290 of 915       
Quote: --- Original message by: Lestat
Quote: --- Original message by: Lestat
Unfortunately some of the lights aren't in the correct places resulting is some areas being too bright and some too dark. Lightmaps must be ran again.

Quote: --- Original message by: Lestat
I need to stop running lightmaps on debug.

FTFY


CTFY.


killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010

sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 06:34 PM    Msg. 291 of 915       
hey look altheros is back again, and this time he seems to have brought his grammar A-game along

@lodeman why haven't you left like you said...?
Edited by killzone64 on Feb 28, 2013 at 06:35 PM


Invader Veex
Joined: Apr 11, 2007

i make poast


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 06:36 PM    Msg. 292 of 915       
Altheros isn't on right now. Quit blaming him for everything.

Great copypasta, btw. I lol'd.


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 06:37 PM    Msg. 293 of 915       
Altheros can't type like that.


bourrin33
Joined: Oct 19, 2009

HEK not installed tho


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 06:37 PM    Msg. 294 of 915       
Huh, easy to find, and it references to things Altheros doesn't knows.
But some things looks too obvious in some parts.


The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 06:40 PM    Msg. 295 of 915       
Quote: --- Original message by: killzone64

@lodeman why haven't you left like you said...?
Edited by killzone64 on Feb 28, 2013 at 06:35 PM


Because I still have a release planned which should benefit alot of mapmakers.


killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010

sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 06:41 PM    Msg. 296 of 915       
ROFL i was just referencing to the fact that the other guy was trolling and had good grammar for once. i know that's not altheros. and whoever that was, perfect description of lodeman

what would this release be?

Edited by killzone64 on Feb 28, 2013 at 06:41 PM


The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 06:43 PM    Msg. 297 of 915       
A nifty little terrain editor, as described by L28's alternate account on the previous page.
PS: Altheros is actually L28 :-) Shocker!
Edited by The Lodeman on Feb 28, 2013 at 06:44 PM


The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 06:46 PM    Msg. 298 of 915       
That would be the logical reaction if you were indeed L28 :-)
Cheers!


Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 07:07 PM    Msg. 299 of 915       
Well that was fast, danke Dennis.
Edited by Bobblehob on Feb 28, 2013 at 07:20 PM


Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 07:14 PM    Msg. 300 of 915       
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Edited by Bobblehob on Feb 28, 2013 at 07:19 PM


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 07:23 PM    Msg. 301 of 915       
Troll gone. sigh...pretty soon I will have blocked every IP at DePaul University. Get back on topic please.


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 07:29 PM    Msg. 302 of 915       
I'd rank this map up there with The Pit and... Well what other big H3 maps have been around?


Invader Veex
Joined: Apr 11, 2007

i make poast


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 09:13 PM    Msg. 303 of 915       
Quote: --- Original message by: Killer5000
one thing wen is there gonna be a beta


A beta has already been handed out to select members to sift through for anything that could be improved.




The deleted post contained a variation of the "guerrilla warfare" copypasta revised to Lodex's perspective. I wish I would have saved it before it was gone.


Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007


Posted: Feb 28, 2013 10:30 PM    Msg. 304 of 915       
Once again, no beta for maniac :(


The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 01:17 AM    Msg. 305 of 915       
Quote: --- Original message by: Long Wang
Quote: --- Original message by: Invader Veex
I wish I would have saved it before it was gone.

Someone was nice enough to share it with me.
http://pastebin.com/ds1Wp25s


You sneaky devil. It all makes sense!
Using DePaul university to troll, and only logging into your main account from home!


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 01:20 AM    Msg. 306 of 915       
Conspiracy.


ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010

Aye Ready


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 02:12 AM    Msg. 307 of 915       
I found this funny, you haven't done your homework very well i see.


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 02:03 PM    Msg. 308 of 915       
This is unbelievable! I hope everyone is done wagging their dicks around in public flailing for a tape measure to try and top each other over an insignificant unsupported hardly noticed video game on an out of the way meaningless forum that several of you are so pathetic that you want so badly to to be here you have created numerous accounts or begged me to not delete your posts again swearing you would be good.

The way you people act... so much to prove to the world and so clueless as to how to go about doing it. Well you're doing it wrong. This is neither the place or the time and definitely not the way or the subject that matters. It makes you look small. Making fake accounts to troll and insult is the height of cowardice and is infantile behaviour showing a lack of personal integrity or respect for others.

Talk about the freaking game and leave the rest of your nonsense for your own personal version of the schoolyard, because its not welcome here. Your drama is truly pitiful.

Return to he topic of the thread.


SilentJacket
Joined: Jun 9, 2012

-Did I miss something?-


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 02:17 PM    Msg. 309 of 915       
^^

the sad truth is that some people here would rather die than stop stroking their ego.

:ontopic:

maybe tone down the grunge on the FP arms?

E: also, does the CE engine support atmospheric particles?, because some streaming lights coming from the windows and vents would look awesome.
Edited by SilentJacket on Mar 1, 2013 at 02:20 PM


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 02:24 PM    Msg. 310 of 915       
Quote: --- Original message by: SilentJacket
^^

the sad truth is that some people here would rather die than stop stroking their ego.


I'd rather stroke something else

DSalimander and I have lots of progress these past two days. I've added some trim materials, modeled some extra stuff in, and fixed up all the scenery. DSalimander has been hard at work running lightmaps at full quality, just to test the final lighting with the current set up D:


SilentJacket
Joined: Jun 9, 2012

-Did I miss something?-


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 02:29 PM    Msg. 311 of 915       
since the fans are vehicles, we get dynamic shadows, right?

Like I said, does the CE engine support atmospheric particles, because if it does, it would be cool to see some more advanced lighting effects


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 02:31 PM    Msg. 312 of 915       
Quote: --- Original message by: SilentJacket
since the fans are vehicles, we get dynamic shadows, right?

Like I said, does the CE engine support atmospheric particles, because if it does, it would be cool to see some more advanced lighting effects


Yes, we get dynamic shadows. I want to add some yellow haze (not fog) like in the real one, but I'm not sure how to go about that.


SilentJacket
Joined: Jun 9, 2012

-Did I miss something?-


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 07:13 PM    Msg. 313 of 915       
Jesse, you should probably prep a new thread, because this one is probably going to get locked soon


SilentJacket
Joined: Jun 9, 2012

-Did I miss something?-


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 07:22 PM    Msg. 314 of 915       
yep.


SilentJacket
Joined: Jun 9, 2012

-Did I miss something?-


Posted: Mar 1, 2013 07:28 PM    Msg. 315 of 915       
I would appreciate it if you stopped that.

ontopic:

you probably should make a new thread, clear out all this drama,

plus I have a feeling that we are going to get hit with another troll raid very soon

 
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