HIAG and Bob are both right. A game engine can be capable of anything and everything, but if the best game it produced has failed, the game engine 'failed' to live up to its potential, even though it is not the engine's fault. HIAG is right when he says we cannot blame the engine for how crappy a game was or wasn't, that's the asset side of the group we should blame.

It's like a tree falling in the woods and making noise, or even somehow setting off a nuclear explosion. If no one hears it, who gives?

The tree is the game engine, and the sound is the game it was used for, if the sound\game wasn't good, why blame the tree if it tried its best?

The main menu ui: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1549/haloceacomparison.png

don't lecture me on how they developed a game I was QA for

Lol.

LOL.

What I don't get is why they're just adding an extra layer of new models and higher poly BSP's and effects to what looks like the basis of the original engine - does this mean every time I throw a grenade in the passenger seat of a warthog I'm gonna pop into a standing position? I can perhaps see a few reasons for doing it that way, but I think I would have much preferred a straight out remake rather than the 'overlay' approach. I guess the problem with that is there is a lot more room for 'adjusting' what was there originally and making people unhappy. Still... I dunno... I think it just looks a bit weird. Anyone find the new MC biped a little.. weird looking?

[Update] 343 Industries top-dog Frank O'Connor clarified the multiplayer aspect of Halo: CE Anniversary on SpikeTV, noting that the multiplayer component actually feeds into Halo: Reach--though a copy of Reach is not required to play. Other than the online co-op, Halo: CE Anniversary does not feature multiplayer.

[Original Story] Microsoft has confirmed one of its worst kept secrets for 2011 -- the original Halo title will receive a re-mastered release, entitled the Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary later this year.

Microsoft has confirmed that Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary will be a retail product and retail for $39.99 when it launches on November 15.

Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary is set to launch on November 15, 2011. The game will feature the original game's campaign, re-mastered using the Halo Reach engine. Also, Halo: CE Anniversary includes online co-op play via Xbox Live.

Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary will feature six remakes of "classic" Halo and Halo 2 multiplayer maps, including Damnation, which will be featured at E3 2011.

"Developed in collaboration with Certain Affinity, the new multiplayer maps are included on the 'Halo: Anniversary' game disc, which means players will not need to own the original 'Halo: Reach' game to play," Microsoft revealed in a fact sheet for the game.

Additionally, Microsoft notes that players will be able to "uncover never-before-revealed backstories told in motion-graphic form that foreshadow new mysteries in the story of "Halo 4."

late

Calling it now: Flood.

SP engine is not Reach's. That means if you're all whiny about Reach's features, they're not in. The engine is the exact same as the old CE engine, and the bsp's are the exact same but better looking, and same goes for weapons and enemies. Isn't this what everyone wanted?

"Original CE was best, everything from CE onward sucked" etc.. Well, that's what you're getting: the exact same CE, just looking better. All glitches, warthog flips, 3sk magnum and other old stuff are the same. MP is just Reach maps, but I don't see any problems with that. It's 40$, or 30 euros in my case. Other retail games are 60 euros, and I think 50% of that is a pretty good price for an amazing Halo game, where the (original PC version, not Custom Edition)) multiplayer was pretty much full of pistolwhores (Frankie said this himself).

i swear, if they Screw up multiplayer, imselling the ****.
Honestly, I thought they said they werent really changing anything...
just because its the reach engine doesnt mean its gonna be like reach.
Im starting to think some people here dont really know what an engine is.
Edited by abkarch on Jun 8, 2011 at 04:57 PM

CEA MP = Reach MP, just remakes of CE maps. MP uses a different engine than SP.

No...its not reach MP. Different weapons, different system, probably not armor locks (maybe sprint?)
vehicles are different then in reach, (it makes me wonder if they are destructable now...i hope not. they destroyed that in reach)...
343 said they are trying not to change the gameplay from halo 1 at all. lets hope they are true to their word.

You are wrong. There is no new CEA multiplayer, all they did is make new maps for Halo Reach's multiplayer.


Here's proof
Edited by Bokito on Jun 8, 2011 at 05:23 PM

CEA multiplayer is Reach they just remade the maps and put them in reach Frank O'Connor said that he didn't want to divide the reach player base. You select an option on CEA's main menu and you are put into Reach multiplayer, similar to what they did with odst, except it's all on one disc.

we will see. i guess.
I highly hope that 343 isnt that stupid. They must be complete idiots if they think that'll fly.

Here's more proof, seeing as you're still not convinced:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsJC28JfGg0

And even more, listen to the entire podcast for more info:
http://halo.xbox.com/Content/assets/en-us/Podcast/343Sparkast_004.mp3
Edited by Bokito on Jun 8, 2011 at 05:32 PM

Oh god.

No.


I think I just came up with a decent basis for Halo 4. It involves MC smashing the teeth out of the dev's if they mess this up.

ok...so from that podcast, i can determine that:
Its not a problem with netcode, its a problem with microsoft not wanting people to leave reach.
Seriously, guys, do NOT play multiplayer on this if you buy it and its wayyyy to reachified. This is just retarted, any intelligent person doesnt want reach all over again
Edited by abkarch on Jun 8, 2011 at 06:04 PM

Oh? So I guess you share in the blame as well, huh?

Agenda for Halo 4: New Quality Assurance team.




I don't intend on playing multiplayer if they turn it into reach.. One person isn't much, but I'll make my protest.
Edited by DieHard Bob on Jun 8, 2011 at 06:19 PM

k

A hipster's description of a hipster doesn't count.

PS u mad?

PPS Please flame this post, I was quite disappointed that anonymous failed to deliver, or Hunter, or whatever the cute little guy's name is.

PPPS I don't care if it's just Reach MP, because TBH I haven't bought any of the Halo games for their MP. Maybe a little bit, but the solo parts are more fun.
Edited by The Cereal Killer on Jun 8, 2011 at 07:59 PM

ur an adorable hipster :3

You know why it's the Reach multiplayer?

Because they don't want to split up the Reach community. If there was a new multiplayer, Reach's numbers would split, and then once Halo 4 came out a year later well...that's 3 places for Halo players to be and an overall drop of player count per each.

Yeah, I think I'd easily accept it if they completely did nothing MP-related on this remake and instead released an SDK for it so I could keep making new SP maps to play. 'Course it'll never even make the jump to PC, and now that I think about it they said it was nearly the same engine so would it matter anyway? Times like these are why I've recently taken a step sideways and a step forward into Star Wars Battlefront level development and Cryengine level development respectively.
Edited by The Cereal Killer on Jun 8, 2011 at 08:16 PM

Yeah HEK's great, but the more the merrier. LISP is my favorite to use so far, but Lua isn't half bad. Cryengine and Battlefront both use Lua variants, and Unreal uses a C++ variant. But in Unreal, it isn't tag-based and you have to declare your own object_classes in the script. I made a couple things but didn't enjoy it too much. MOVING ON.

I just want the multiplayer maps, I love Reach's mp, its tons of fun.

Yo, they better put some yoyorast up in this game. You know what I'm sayin?

i do hope, for their good, you will be able to forge somewhat well at these maps.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOYORAST IS THE PRIDE OF HALOMAPS if it did make into the remake they better list halo maps and the map's creator.

What I said before still stands: It looks like a good CMT mod.

Indeed, sir. Truly it cannot be called "modding" (similar to the way in which using HEK cannot be called "modding") because I am simply utilizing the development kit they released for the game.

Its been about 5 seconds since this was released, and already people are saying it will be the worst thing in the history of ever. They are trying to keep it original to the first game, and theres nothing wrong with that, especially considering that its an aniversary release, not a whole new game that they don't have time to make, considering they are busy with Halo 4. Besides, the game isn't due for at least 5 months; thats plenty of time to fix the bugs people keep pointing out. Personally, I think Reach was amazing, and so do the 100,000 people who play it every day (not counting the ones without live).

fixed.
Edited by nick347b on Jun 9, 2011 at 12:06 AM

Old doesn't isn't the same thing as bad. Halo: Combat Evolved is old, yet everyone's still playing it or making maps for it (and obviously the Anniversary Edition is about to be released).