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Joined: Oct 12, 2010
Ohai der...
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 12:16 AM
Msg. 246 of 330
If it were for PC, a PC would blow up for the intense graphics of the game and multiple engines of multiplayer and co-op stuff lol
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 12:24 AM
Msg. 247 of 330
You clearly have no idea about PCs.
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MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 12:44 AM
Msg. 248 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: tylerp14 If it were for PC, a PC would blow up for the intense graphics of the game and multiple engines of multiplayer and co-op stuff lol The next-gen consoles probably won't even have as good as graphics capability then my current pc.
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 03:13 AM
Msg. 249 of 330
Some idiot thinks current consoles have more power than current PCs. There's a reason why Battlefield 3 will have 64-player servers on the PC and only 16-player servers on the console.
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 05:45 AM
Msg. 250 of 330
64-24=40 makes me feel good about being a PC user :)
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 08:32 AM
Msg. 251 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: L0d3x Yeah...they were gonna shrink the maps on console or something. Basically I'm guessing it's just gonna be another Bad Company 2 except with overpowered jets (on this scale).
Unfortunately not everybody has heaps of cash to spare to get an insane PC! I'd personally prefer they save in the graphics department and increase the player count for consoles as well, if that would even be enough... Yeah, smaller maps. Since I've never played any other Battlefield apart from BC2, I don't really know how jets work tactically. And I think they'd be more awkard than overpowered in BC2. All you could do with them in most maps is fly one run from the spawn point to the other side of the map, after which you invariably lose the jet to either collision with nearby hills or bailing out to avoid the kill barrier. And yeah, I also wish they'd lower the spec requirements to something less high-end.
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bobz7
Joined: Sep 29, 2010
Were it so easy...
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 12:31 PM
Msg. 252 of 330
You know, when they said they were going to make a Halo CE HD remake, I imagined MC's "HD" armor to be something like this But the one in the trailer actually looks worse than the original one. It would've been better if they'd just used cmt's armor from spv2 :\ or even one of those numerous Reach armor variants with a Mark V'ish helmet (since they're using Reach's assets anyway). This actually makes me wonder how well 343i actually is at original character designs. Heck, they should hire Marcus Lehto for all Halo projects! Edited by bobz7 on Jun 18, 2011 at 12:31 PM
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The Cereal Killer
Joined: Mar 18, 2011
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 12:57 PM
Msg. 253 of 330
Hell yeah man, Halo Wars Mark 4 was my favorite armor from any Halo game simply because of how sexy they made it look.
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 01:59 PM
Msg. 254 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: The Cereal Killer Hell yeah man, Halo Wars Mark 4 was my favorite armor from any Halo game simply because of how sexy they made it look. Shame Halo Wars was crap and only looked good in CGI cutscenes.
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The Cereal Killer
Joined: Mar 18, 2011
Scripts, AI, cutscenes, ui_widgets, animation.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 02:11 PM
Msg. 255 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009 Shame Halo Wars was crap and only looked good in CGI cutscenes. Halo Wars would have been a lot of fun on PC, don't know what made them think a console RTS was gonna fly though.
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bobz7
Joined: Sep 29, 2010
Were it so easy...
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 02:44 PM
Msg. 256 of 330
Another thing is, they could have tweaked the animations a bit to suit the current generation of games. I mean, it would look just downright ugly (on Reach's engine) when a character goes into the standing position when tossing a grenade while running. Also, MC's left arm in the "this is now" (showing that ugly MC model for that particular scene was a bad idea in the first place IMO. They should have shown the much better looking landscape\scenery instead) moment of the trailer looks overtly (for the lack of a better word) "deformed" or twisted, awkward, whatever. They could have at least fixed that before making a trailer. Edited by bobz7 on Jun 18, 2011 at 02:53 PM
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 03:24 PM
Msg. 257 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: The Cereal KillerQuote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009 Shame Halo Wars was crap and only looked good in CGI cutscenes. Halo Wars would have been a lot of fun on PC, don't know what made them think a console RTS was gonna fly though. I also don't see why they would design vehicles which look like some kid has gone crazy with weapon systems and disregarded human vehicle designs. You can tell the game isn't by Bungie as MOST (not all) of the designs don't follow the Halo Universe design.
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The Cereal Killer
Joined: Mar 18, 2011
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 04:14 PM
Msg. 258 of 330
Well one vehicle I did love was the AC-220 "Vulture" which could be an awesome air support unit in Red Skulls if one were made for CE. In fact, I might just see about that...
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Contrary Smuglord
Joined: May 25, 2011
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 05:21 PM
Msg. 259 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: The Cereal KillerQuote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009 Shame Halo Wars was crap and only looked good in CGI cutscenes. Halo Wars would have been a lot of fun on PC, don't know what made them think a console RTS was gonna fly though. Pikmin 1 and 2 would like to have a word with you.
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The Cereal Killer
Joined: Mar 18, 2011
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 05:44 PM
Msg. 260 of 330
What the eff is Pikmin?
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ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007
A rare sight, indeed.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 06:10 PM
Msg. 261 of 330
Pikmin and Pikmin 2 were/are two great games for the Gamecube that would have worked superbly well on Wii but Nintendo...I have no idea what the hell happened to Pikmin 3 but it's been said to be in development but never shown. Kind of like Half-Life 3 you could say. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKJyv4uqsWI
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Wesker
Joined: Jun 8, 2011
Your Future Hinges upon This Fight!!!
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 07:51 PM
Msg. 262 of 330
master chief from halo ce at mac world master chief final in game jk lol the thing is it isnt really out yet besides there was another thread providing links to some Q&A for halo ce remake they are planning to not use that model of the chief
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Sergeant 1337
Joined: May 1, 2010
Do you even lift?
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 08:31 PM
Msg. 263 of 330
they need new physics and animations, it just looks stupid with all that reach stuff with the crap engine
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ThetianSoldier
Joined: May 15, 2010
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 10:07 PM
Msg. 264 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: bobz7 But the one in the trailer actually looks worse than the original one. They said they were changing the armor in the final. Quote: --- Original message by: bobz7 It would've been better if they'd just used cmt's armor from spv2 Quote: --- Original message by: IcePhoenix 64-24=40 makes me feel good about being a PC user :) More players =/= more fun. For example, MAG, with its 250-some online capabilities, was a terrible idea to begin with, and even worse in practice. 16 players is a ridiculously high enough amount as is, its not a friggin' MMO. Edited by ThetianSoldier on Jun 18, 2011 at 10:08 PM
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Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010
Former biped rigger & FP animator
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 10:11 PM
Msg. 265 of 330
Oh gawd. That arm was hideous. Visor and helmet and.. *has a brain aneurysm*
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 10:13 PM
Msg. 266 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: Sergeant 1337 they need new physics and animations, it just looks stupid with all that reach stuff with the crap engine whatThe engine Reach runs on is amazing, the game is just horrible.
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ThetianSoldier
Joined: May 15, 2010
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 10:27 PM
Msg. 267 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: Sergeant 1337 they need new physics and animations, it just looks stupid with all that reach stuff with the crap engine It's HALO CE'S ENGINE. THEY ARE USING THE BLAM ENGINE. Quote: --- Original message by: spartan314 Oh gawd. That arm was hideous. Visor and helmet and.. *has a brain aneurysm* I just don't understand how you kiddies are surprised by this. Edited by ThetianSoldier on Jun 18, 2011 at 10:28 PM
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 10:28 PM
Msg. 268 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: Tiel
The Battlefield series pulled off 64 player maps quite well, in addition to supporting AI in the case you can't find people to play.
Wait they have AI in BF? Never heard of it. But 24 players really doesn't show off battlefield's specialty, the huge scale. It'll be like MW3 without the perks and countless weapons that are so appealing to most people.
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Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009
Discord: Holy Crust#4500
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 11:08 PM
Msg. 269 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: HiguyQuote: --- Original message by: Sergeant 1337 they need new physics and animations, it just looks stupid with all that reach stuff with the crap engine whatThe engine Reach runs on is amazing, the game is just horrible. I think he was talking about Reach weapons being used in the (crappy) engine of Halo PC.
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jun 18, 2011 11:09 PM
Msg. 270 of 330
Yeah he means the graphics overhaul clashes with the engine, which will be the Halo CE one. I agree.
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bobz7
Joined: Sep 29, 2010
Were it so easy...
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Posted: Jun 19, 2011 02:31 AM
Msg. 271 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: Wesker the thing is it isnt really out yet besides there was another thread providing links to some Q&A for halo ce remake they are planning to not use that model of the chief Yes, I've seen that, they said it wasn't final, but I doubt they'll overhaul the whole thing in 5 months. Honestly, I would have been happier if they used that Mark V permu from Halo 3. It looks much better. Quote: --- Original message by: Sergeant 1337 they need new physics and animations ... True. Right there with ya Quote: Quote: --- Original message by: bobz7 It would've been better if they'd just used cmt's armor from spv2 That photo link you posted is broken, but what I said was sarcasm..just in case you didn't know. Edited by bobz7 on Jun 19, 2011 at 02:32 AMEdited by bobz7 on Jun 19, 2011 at 02:40 AMEdited by bobz7 on Jun 19, 2011 at 02:42 AM
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bigfoot343
Joined: Jan 27, 2009
Madness? THIS IS HALO!!!!
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Posted: Jun 19, 2011 02:48 AM
Msg. 272 of 330
Everyone complaining about the MC model, it's a placeholder and 343 said they were going to change it. However there will always be those who totally ignore this post and will continue complaining about the model. Also, those who continually bash Reach opinions are opinions I personally enjoy Reach's multiplayer more than any other Halo game and think that the campaign was awesome, however it couldn't compete with the trilogy's campaigns. Reach does beat most other shooters out now. I'd prefer Reach to CoD, Battlefield, and any other shooter out there. I think 343 will do fine with Halo and won't mess too much up the only thing I've seen them do that has really bothered me has been MC's armor in Halo 4. Rage post done.
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bobz7
Joined: Sep 29, 2010
Were it so easy...
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Posted: Jun 19, 2011 02:53 AM
Msg. 273 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: bigfoot343 Everyone complaining about the MC model, it's a placeholder and 343 said they were going to change it. However there will always be those who totally ignore this post and will continue complaining about the model. Also, those who continually bash Reach opinions are opinions I personally enjoy Reach's multiplayer more than any other Halo game and think that the campaign was awesome, however it couldn't compete with the trilogy's campaigns. Reach does beat most other shooters out now. I'd prefer Reach to CoD, Battlefield, and any other shooter out there. I think 343 will do fine with Halo and won't mess too much up the only thing I've seen them do that has really bothered me has been MC's armor in Halo 4. Rage post done. Agreed. I certainly hope they tread carefully with Halo 4.
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jun 19, 2011 05:00 AM
Msg. 274 of 330
Battlefield still wins.
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ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007
A rare sight, indeed.
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Posted: Jun 19, 2011 10:38 AM
Msg. 275 of 330
If anything, they're all for different types of gamers:
Halo- People who want slower gameplay that makes your aim, positioning, and weapon a key part to the game. This is a true test of skill, strategy, and cunning.
Battlefield- People who want an epic match of large-scale proportions, with options for all types of gun play. This is all-out warfare.
Call of Duty- People looking for a game that will give them action around every corner, with kills racking up at a ridiculously fast rate. This is arcade gaming.
All other [first person] shooters pretty much fall under a category here, with the majority being arcade gaming with maybe a bit of Battlefield. That's why I'm actually a little excited for Halo 4 and am very pleased with Reach's multiplayer getting expanded with Ha10, as there just aren't enough games out these days with slower gameplay and no iron sights. Edited by ODX on Jun 19, 2011 at 10:40 AM
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Jun 19, 2011 12:31 PM
Msg. 276 of 330
Quote: --- Original message by: ODX
If anything, they're all for different types of gamers:
Halo- People who want slower gameplay that makes your aim, positioning, and weapon a key part to the game. This is a true test of skill, strategy, and cunning.
Battlefield- People who want an epic match of large-scale proportions, with options for all types of gun play. This is all-out warfare.
Call of Duty- People looking for a game that will give them action around every corner, with kills racking up at a ridiculously fast rate. This is arcade gaming.
All other [first person] shooters pretty much fall under a category here, with the majority being arcade gaming with maybe a bit of Battlefield. That's why I'm actually a little excited for Halo 4 and am very pleased with Reach's multiplayer getting expanded with Ha10, as there just aren't enough games out these days with slower gameplay and no iron sights. Edited by ODX on Jun 19, 2011 at 10:40 AM Tbh "This is a true test of skill, strategy, and cunning." can apply to the other two. it's a matter of opinion and how you use the games mechanics to your advantage. For example on you never know what the other person is thinking, but usually the is the same response, but you can always surprise them if you thought about it and act how they would not predict.
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Jun 19, 2011 12:54 PM
Msg. 277 of 330
All of those games are slow casual shooters, it just depends on how you play them, like Hunter said.
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ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007
A rare sight, indeed.
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Posted: Jun 19, 2011 01:53 PM
Msg. 278 of 330
Personally I never have to think as hard when I'm fighting in a battle against someone in Battlefield or Call of Duty. In Halo you have to actually aim, follow the guy, use the environment (because you have time to!) and decide whether to approach and melee, throw a good grenade, and hope your gun holds out.
Battlefield could be considered a little slower pace too, but I would never ever consider Call of Duty to be anything but run and gun fun with little skill needed.
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Sergeant 1337
Joined: May 1, 2010
Do you even lift?
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Posted: Jun 19, 2011 02:00 PM
Msg. 279 of 330
Depends which Battlefield you're talkin...
Bad Companies or the PC Battlefields? (Battlefield 1942-Battlefield 2) <--- Best ones.
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Sergeant 1337
Joined: May 1, 2010
Do you even lift?
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Posted: Jun 19, 2011 06:06 PM
Msg. 280 of 330
Eh, that used to be fun.
Like, when i first played 1942, it was soooo fun.
Then I got BF2, and that game was fantastic for like, ever.
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