I will, but considering everything I really doubt it will. But one can dream :)

To be honest I still can't figure out why I can't use OS 3.1 with HAC.
Edited by mvandam753 on Feb 18, 2015 at 02:48 PM

I'm talking about the version that's going to be released with TSC:E, not the current os thats being used

I know they will work together i was stating the buttons to use them like F1-F12 buttons for Hac2 and the numpad For OS.

No one on the team uses HAC so I can't tell you one way or another. I assume HAC will have to figure out a way to be compatible with OS if there are problems later.

I can't speak for OS team, but it is my understanding that the OS team does not fully understand how it works or has the documentation on it, which makes them making it compatible from day one not feasible on top of the other issues they have getting it ready.

By the way, I was scrolling through my Halo CE menus, and I saw two levels that weren't part of the original campaign, called The Commander and None Left Behind, what are those two about, branching off from the vaugest description possible in-game.

Those questions should probably be asked/answered at the CMT RETURNS! New project and team details inside! thread. This one is specifically for TSC:E.

oh, didnt even know that thread existed, I just have this one bookmarked on my browser.

there are no issues at all between os and hac. just turn off the automatic map downloads for opensauce, the frustrating bit is that you cant access the f7 menu because hac2 has sightjacking bound to that key.

If you think that those are all the issues between OS and HAC then you haven't been paying attention to all the previous comments that have been posted in many threads before about the incompatibility between both programs.

In short, the problem for me and several other users is that the game just won't open when using both OS and HAC. It will just throw an exception, and if it doesn't, then either HAC or OS won't be loaded. I believe this issue was mentioned somewhere in HAC's web page but it still hasn't been fixed.

The F7 key problem is nothing compared to that: The OS menu can't be openend if you have paused the game with (Esc), this allows you to activate the SJ without opening the OS menu, so you just have to unpause the game and press F7 again, that way the SJ will be deactivated but you will be able to use the OS menu normally. It's not something that one would call ideal, but it works.

How did you get OS to work with HAC 2? Are you using a new version of OS or the 3.1 version or and old / new version of Hac? My game still doesn't start when I combine the two together. :/ Last time I was actually able to use both was in November. When I look at the crash dump file, it says the error has something to do with the, ntdll.dll file.
Edited by mvandam753 on Feb 19, 2015 at 06:22 AM

Going back to my post 1 I was/am using a cell phone two, when have I ever been a jerk 3 the people who have been jerks eventually get banned but I think it be cool if those who were and are always that way get an IP banana so they cant pollute the forum... basically I'm saying there's a lot of under appreciation for those who work... and those that do appreciate that's great but I see way more negativity on the forums and ever latelywhen someone has a request be appreciative when you get help and if you're the one who helps treat youre requestees respectfully.

A fact is a fact regardless of how its gramatically phrased. and the facts will speak for themselves and I'm just addressing an issue I'm not being negative trying to bring awareness to the fact that this was going on.the foruns deserve to be a place where everyone can learn and where everyone is treated respectfully. And that's all I have to say about that.
Edited by thellt on Feb 18, 2015 at 10:37 PM

even disabled hac dose not put the map in the maps folder it puts it in the hac maps folder and u cant start the game till u move it manually(that is hac running with os and it works fine besides that

Edited by savinpvtmike on Feb 18, 2015 at 11:40 PM

Run the game as admin and it'll move the maps to the Halo folder, if it's a problem. HAC does the right thing in regards to map placement.

The problem would be incredibly simple to fix in OpenSauce and I've asked more than once if they'd make the correction in the next release. I've also made it clear that I'd like to make sure the two projects are compatible when the next version is released.

If the next OpenSauce release breaks compatibility or the existing maps issue is still there, it's because they didn't view having the two projects work together as important. That's their choice, they can do as they please with their project but at the same time, if their release requires a lot of changes to be made to HAC for compatibility, I won't be in a rush to make them.

I have, otherwise the two wouldn't mostly work together. The maps problem isn't something I can trivially change in HAC's code to fix, it's a problem that requires changing OS.

Technically I could detect OS and start messing around with to get it to behave differently but I'd rather not open that can of worms.
Edited by Btcc22 on Feb 19, 2015 at 09:48 AM

latest version of hac and last released opensauce install. works fine just disable the map downloads and run as admin

thats what i meant

Wow... The hype train is real... seems to be a lot of man periods going on in this forum currently...

Nerdiods

remember kids: its only a joke if its funny

What I get from this: nerds on steroids.

No, this is much worse than that...

ive got no problem with anyone whos decent and doesent instigate/accelerate issues. especially those who are generally helpful and open minded, and those people are awesome. ive got no problem with anyone except those those who troll the forums and piss everyone off. they shouldnt have the rights to use the forums. the forums are a learning tool. they are in support for development. not for belittling. further more i agree with everything... most people are good. there are a few who arent. when i say allthat ive said im mostly refering to the sticky that sayd "you will NOT abuse people with requests" this is a nessesity.

I don't know how you got it too work, but I've tried everything you said, even manually downloaded the recent update for HAC 2, and when I use HAC 2 with Open Sauce on Halo CE 1.09, it dosen't even get to the loading screen, when I start it up, it's black and flashes a couple of times and exits out like the game didn't even start, when I remove OS 3.1 and keep HAC 2, it works, when I remove HAC 2 and keep OS 3.1, it works, but when I combine...... -_-

If the community was big enough you could have a forum where negativity and stuff is allowed and then a separate muh feelings forum where trolls and stuff would be banned. But with this size, any poster is better than no poster. And personally I much prefer having trolls and funposters and whatever else have you, makes it more interesting. And good practice in staying positive and resisting bad vibes. When people do act like that to each other at least you know they're being open and speaking their mind, the communities I can't stand are ones with a false blanket of forced hospitality and kindness hiding hate. The ideal online community would be anonymous and allowing free speech, and then with enough different forks in it for different types of people and interests that you wouldn't have to go to one with content and vibes that you dont like. And no I'm not just describing the chins... they got a lot of it down though

Gruntfromhalo is becoming self aware

and yes I completley agree with your post

Wait a sec,if the new os is updated,must i delete the old old os before installing it or can i jus install is jus like that?(I feel stupid)

Uninstall the old os and install the new os.

new OS will install right over the old one.

This can cause issues, you will want to uninstall your old copy before installing the new one.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have discovered another spoiled brat.
Listen up reachfan, how about you try to do something productive in your life before telling other people they're wasting time.
And I didn't catch this but, who are you to demand a 'damned' release date? What are you, some kind of sponsor?
Unless you're actually affected in some immense way, you should sit down and learn to be patient. Quit whining.
I usually don't resort to name calling but c'mon, this is absurd.

As I've said before, reachfan and several other accounts are just trolls (c'mon, obvious trolls). Just act like that post doesn't exist and a have a happy day.
Edited by Danger_zone_98 on Feb 21, 2015 at 04:28 PM

I'm pretty sure they're just legitimate idiots, not trolls. If I'm wrong, they did a good job at fooling me.

I just can't believe there are users that are THAT stupid. Nah... I think they're trolls.

But either way, just ignore them.
Edited by Danger_zone_98 on Feb 21, 2015 at 04:48 PM