Thanks to Waffles, I can now get proper reference pics of the map :D

Defeats the whole purpose of a CE port.

I've been gone for a while, dont understand the bandwagon for Cry Engine and its quite irritating.

Seems like the same user with several accounts.

That's where you're wrong. Halo 3 is where you see the real Pit.
Edited by Dumb AI on Oct 23, 2013 at 08:30 PM

I'm excited Jesse, make sure you use all references correctly to ensure maximum accuracy. ;)

Yeah I definitely have multiple with my join date being in Jan 2008. You have no idea who I am do you.

He probably does, but he also probably doesn't care.

I think he was talking about Promap...

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Progress on the green walls, trimming and the structure on the right made up of wall panels.

What section are you going to model next?

wow look good keep up the good work

@Spartan_094 ↑ This...

Started that other structure. It was a real pain to seal all the bracings.



*The render camera has a 75 degree FOV*
Edited by Jesse on Oct 24, 2013 at 10:13 PM

looking very nice, what method will u use for the fan-lifts?

Lots of teleporters?

After 6 hours of work, I have more progress on that building:






Edited by Jesse on Oct 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM

The space between the ramp and the building doesn't seem right. (1st pic)

Edited by Dumb AI on Oct 25, 2013 at 10:05 PM

The pic was taken at a 90 degree field of view. Here's a top-down pic with no distortion:


Edited by Jesse on Oct 25, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Want some advice? Make the detail panels, braces, etc and stuff like that scenery objects. you will thank me later...

Hey, since you are modelling the BSP, are there going to be more features in the map?
For instance accessing the Pelican area.
Edited by Oskarmandude on Oct 25, 2013 at 11:13 PM

I don't see any reason why I should. That is to say, I don't think I will add more accessible areas than the original has, but I will totally add more functionality to the map itself. I might even make the bridge from the sword base be one that you have to activate and lower down via a switch (like Zanzibar/Last Resort).


They wouldn't be better off as BSP? I know from foundry that grenade damages go through scenery objects real easy.
Edited by Jesse on Oct 26, 2013 at 03:02 AM

Woops my bad, it looked like you where talking to me, sorry.

It wouldn't be an issue if he knew how to portal, but considering I've yet to see anyone do it efficiently, making it scenery would save time.

I can understand your point, and I completely agree with you that at least the main map should be game-accurate, and as good as you can possibly make it. That being said, however, the potential for extra flavour is certainly there and I think your map could benefit from a V2 that has open access to more areas.

Your work's looking very good indeed. I do a lot of modelling myself, so if there's anything you need help with (screenshots or just getting stuff done) feel free to shoot me a PM if you're after a spare pair of hands.

Neat. What do you mean by screenshots? References for the game? I could probably do with some of those, I myself have an Xbox, and Halo 3, but I can't do theater mode because I let my cousins borrow my HDD so they can enjoy GTA V.

No theater = no good screenshots.

What do you think you could contribute to the map? I reconsidered, and I might add an accessible room atop the sword base.

Hey Jesse, just signed up to let you know there is a trick that can be done to prevent .damage_effects from bleeding through scenery objects:

http://youtu.be/sk42TtBmkQE
-had some problems with the rocket launcher, im sure it can be dealt with


Player clips, or collision-only materials, can be used to stop the bleed through, so what I did was in the BSP made a plane, then boolean-ed it with the scenery object to get a cut out of it. I then just placed it where the scenery object would be, and made it collision only (@ or *).

Im sure it wouldn't have been an effective fix for your Foundry map, since you wanted to allow players to remove the objects themselves, and this would leave large invisible barriers where the objects were. Still though, this trick works best with stationary objects and could be effectively used in The Pit.


-tried to post this earlier but got an error. Hopefully this doesn't make an issue or anything.

I see. I had considered using invisible collision-only bullet panels (the blue rectangle plates), and then having the real visible object be scenery, but there wouldn't be much of a point in that. I might try what you suggest :o


Then there is the issue of bullet decals not showing up on scenery.

The shaders for any object in CE can be awesome or absolutely terrible, depending on how the modder sets them up.

Decals don't work on scenery :(

For some reason, whenever I make any major changes to my BSP, (extrude a few polies, or unwrap) 3ds max decides to corrupt my max model. Fortunately I have my own backups (cause 3ds' backups get corrupt too) but I can't seem to continue unless I get this solved. Anyone wanna try and load it in their 3ds and see if they get the same issue? Preferably someone with modeling skills of course.

I may try loading it in 3ds 2014, but then I'd have no way to convert it back to 3ds 8.
Edited by Jesse on Oct 31, 2013 at 04:29 PM

i would like to help but i have a 64 bit pc so i cant use max 8

I have a 64 - bit PC, why wouldn't it work?

Ill see if o can get on later and test this.

I'll be on xfire all day.

Try and see if you can start a fresh new scene in 3ds and merge it. It should keep your materials and stuff, although, you'll have a hard time editing them if you need too. It sounds like your max file is messed up.

Also, make sure you are saving multiple times every few minutes (say like, 20 minutes, or when you do some decent changes/additions). You can also try the incremental backup script ( http://www.breidt.net/scripts/ ), although I've never really used, just done the "save as" and saved a new file each time. I remember having almost 200 of them for Lumoria EP1.

All in all, don't rely on autoback on saving your ass with stuff like, not saying you are, but just dont. Autoback sucks, you never know what its going to save, and while it might seem nice, it relys on alot of luck to work correctly. That being said, at the very least keep it on, you may get lucky.
Edited by Higuy on Oct 31, 2013 at 09:58 PM