Well this is annoying, why not scream it out on some fake xfires?

You don't need 17 posts to argue if you're gonna bring up the same premise every single time
Edited by OrangeJuice on Apr 12, 2013 at 07:44 PM

EDIT>lemme guess...
Edited by OrangeJuice on Apr 12, 2013 at 07:46 PM

The halo 4 Storm Covenant had old, flawed armor because, being a mere heretic splinter group, they did not have access to the same armor technology as the "Allied" Elites. The reason they removed the plates from the Elite's arms, aside from the Old Armor thing, is because they wanted them to look a bit more animalistic and scary. I, for one, thought it did the trick. Maybe not scary, but definitely animalistic. Though I can see why you don't like that, the Elites are supposed to be this super-advanced race of high-tech aliens, not animalistic. I thought it worked pretty well, though it does look primitive.

Maybe so, but comparing Halo 3 to Halo 4...

It's like having IronMan wear his suit in Ironman 1 and 2,
and then he suddenly decides that he'll make the suit overly complicated aesthetically, and also removes his bracers.

So has anyone managed to tag the pistol yet?

I don't mean to sound rude, but...

The storm covenant in halo 4 is actually more religious than most of the elites seen in halo 2 and 3. Most of the members were originally unaware of the fact that the human-covenant war had ended. The only elite that is not religious is their leader, Jul 'Mdama, who is an atheist. He pretends to be devout like his followers to keep their trust.

The elites actually kept most of the technology from the war, with many of the weapons and ships having seen previous combat. When the elite civil war broke out, the faction that resented the arbiter had nearly the same weapons and armor as the arbiter's troops.

While I do agree that the removed arm plates gives them a more animalistic appearance, I think another reason would be their warrior mindset.

I'm trying to give reasons without spoilers, and I never thought about how hard that was.

Their armor looks ancient. =/
Looks about as old the Arbiter's own set in Halo 2.

But then again, 50% of Halo 4's stuff looks a bit more blocky and primitive than the stuff in previous games.

1v1 me in Halo 4 and I'll show you how little skill it takes to play this broken game.
Edited by Banshee64 on Apr 13, 2013 at 12:33 AM

How about you 1v1 in real life so useless posts like these will come to an end.

Sry, 'Shee. He got you good there, man.

cuuute, but I doubt you can take me

115 Spring Water Chase, Newnan, Georgia 30265 come and find me.

(readies bomb)
I'll do it instead!

I'm still here.

Anyone else going to post their address? I'll personally draw up a map from your house to mine.
Edited by Banshee64 on Apr 13, 2013 at 02:26 AM

I haven't hijacked a plane yet, silly. I'm still sneaking onto the runway.

I beat halo 4 on legendary on launch day in about 6 hours, extremely easy since they game held your hand the whole time. The game play was trash, you spent more time pressing buttons then actually killing things. The Promethean's are pretty much the brutes from halo 2, bullet sponges. I just sat back and spammed BR and DMR at them and they just died. I actually laughed out loud when you said halo 4 has good weapon balance. The DMR destroys all sense of map movement and control, and has the fastest kill time in the game, and is extremely easy to aim and use. The boltshot is a pocket shotgun, and spawning with plasma pistol and plasma grenades nulls all vehicles. I can understand why people who where terrible at the older halos enjoy halo 4, with all that aim assist, bullet magnetism, huge hit boxes, no descoping, perks, loadouts, killstreaks, armor abilities, class/progression system, how can you possibly be bad at this game?

I have no idea how to reply to that.

Reported to the FBI

Ignoring all the animosity in the thread...
Has there been any kind of release involving a tagged object?
I'd love to use any of those in-game, for myself only.

Not to my knowledge.

You beat Halo 4 on legendary on launch day? Join the rest of the world on that one. Halo isn't exactly impossible, you know. I beat Halo 1 on legendary in a day, Halo 2 on legendary in a day, Halo 3 on legendary in a day and Halo Reach on legendary in a day. That's not an accomplishment. There's plenty of people who have. The only relatively challenging level in ANY Halo game was Cortana when you think about it, but that's only because it's just so unlikeable of a level. Asides from that, every game held your hand to some standpoint. The plasma pistol had the electro magnetic pulse since Halo 2. The boltshot was basically the brute shot and was as accessible as the brute type-52. There were incredibly large hit-boxes in Halo 2/3, which this game was made to be like. They've updated the game so that there is hit-descoping. Perks were always in the game tbh but only the server master could decide who got what. Loadouts were also in the game from the start. Even if you couldn't customize it at the player level, you COULD at the server level. Killstreaks were first introduced in the juggernaut gametype. Kill for a certain amount of time and you get your shields boosted, damage boosted, etc. Armor abilities were in the game from the start and bungie even stated that they wished they were there from the start, class-progressions were nowhere as easy as Halo 3's rank system. I watched an episode of Red Vs Blue that featured Agent Carolina, liked the helmet she was wearing and decided to go online on Halo 3 to unlock it (I usually played Gran Theft Auto and such, which is why i never ranked up in the first place.) Anyhow, it took me less than 2 hours to level up to Level 50 in the game. Then, I kept going and literally ranked up some 200+ xp in that same day. I hate when people are oblivious to the fact that they hated what was already in the game. If you went by what I said, Halo would've had it's killstreaks and perks and loadouts 2 years before call of duty was even created. Besides, half of this crap existed in Starwars Battlefront before Cod as well. Last time I checked, Battlefront's amazing.

Well, how else am I supposed to fly to your home when I've got a bomb? And I'm writing this from Jail, just letting you know.

I wasn't the one exclaiming how great and wonderful the AI was on legendary when all I did was sit back and spam bullets at them. Its not the fact that the plasma pistol can disable vehicles (in which you are wrong btw, the disabling of vehicles was added in Halo 3) its that any player can spawn with them, and respawn with them. Instead finding the plasma pistol spawns, you could just die and keep attempting to disable vehicles. I don't know how a pocket shotgun is a brute shot, so I'm just leaving it at that. Halo 2/3 did not have bigger hit boxes than this game. Plug in a guest controller, and move a DMR target reticle near his head, but not where the reticle is read. Just start spamming DMR, and watch him get hit when you are not even aiming at him. Never happened in 2 or 3. Played the other day, no descoping. No idea what you where talking about with perks, never seen any game play effecting perks in Halo until 4, if your talking about custom games, that's not the core experience + any trait changes you make affect all players, not just one. Load outs were not customizable on a individual player base, making all players start ON EQUAL FOOTING, something that Halo 4 destroyed the concept of. It seems for the killstreaks thing, your just grasping at straws, really? Juggernaut? First of all, the bonuses to the Juggernaut were given by time, not kills. You can hide as a Juggernaut and get those. How does that even compare to calling in a rocket launcher right next to you? Armor abilities were poorly executed in reach, and they decided since everyone loved them so much they bring them back. I'm actually laughing so hard right not, "class-progressions were nowhere as easy as Halo 3's rank system." I'm sure it took you 2 hours to hit level 50, your must me the best halo player alive, because not even when the 50 black market was high could you pump out level 50 accounts that fast. I became Max rank in halo 4 within months, just by playing customs and spartan Ops you get XP, its a terrible ranking system. I never mentioned call of duty or battlefront, so I'm not sure why you brought those up?

Please paragraph your posts.

You know how we should get back on topic? Yeah, we should totally do that! Nice idea that is, that whole getting back on topic thing.

AI can be good without being unbeatable. Adaptive AI are good AI, nonetheless. Next thing, did you seriously just say Halo 3's hitboxes weren't big? Do you not remember the complaints about the H3 hitboxes? These people do.
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25549105
Juggernaut could be rigged for kills rather than time. It's a reversible setting.
And yes, they're fixing the descoping.
http://mp1st.com/2013/03/22/halo-4-343-industries-announces-forge-island-legendary-slayer-competitive-skill-ranking-and-more/
They're also balancing the weapons as well.
You DO realize that both Halo 2 and 3 shipped with all sorts of problems, right? This isn't the first Fiasco in the Halo series.
Some of these problems were even before the game was even started up.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/halo-3-disc-problem-reports
Also, do you remember "Project Epsilon" and that ban until the year 9999 of people who legitimately purchased Halo 3 but were suspected to have "stolen the game"?
Also, remember the gripe about Halo 2's anti-climatic campaign? Remember how Halo fanboys/fangirls all but crucified reviewers for criticizing Halo? Every single Halo game to date has had it's share of problems. It annoys me that people put Halo 2 and Halo 3 on a pedestal as the "perfect game" when both of them had their shares of failures and messups. You're trying to judge Halo 4's release to Halo 3, now. Give it about a year, when everything's all patched and such (waited about 3 years with Halo 3 and 2 years with Reach) and it'll look much better when held in the light. Don't let nostalgia blind you.
Also, I mentioned Battlefront because alot of "smart" people like to compare Call Of Duty to Halo because they both have "sprint" and both have "killstreaks" and "Loadouts". I like to remind people that Battlefront had this before both of them.
Next thing; Halo was never a perfect game. None of them were. I'm pretty sure I'd be burned at the stake for saying that but Halo's far from perfect. The second game in the series (which should've been the strongest, campaign wise) was the weakest game in the series and Bungie literally stated that they wanted to include Halo 3's campaign in there but they wanted to finish on time so they just took those levels, re-made them and released them on the 360. They admitted to rushing. They also wanted to include Halo 3+2's weapons in Halo 1 and never got around to doing it. More rushing. Not to mention the whole butchered canon, thanks to the books written after the main canon. In fact, the only reason Commander Palmer exists is because of the Halo books. My point is, all of the Halo games are imperfect. Mario's an imperfect game that branded so many different tropes in the gaming genre, and yet he's the most well-known, popular character in gaming history. You don't have to be of a specific age or demographic to know who Mario is. You don't even have to look farther than your neighbourhood, often times. When it comes to Halo, you're looking at less than 300 million people that know about it, and about half of that think that Master Chief's name is "Halo"
A game doesn't have to be perfect to be enjoyable. Personally, I enjoyed every game in the Halo series. I'm a Halo fan, but even I can admit it's not perfect. Halo 4 might not have the strongest release in the series, but it's still a good game. I've yet to see any variation in skill between Halo 3 and Halo 4 as I'd finish in either first or second in every match. It doesn't matter. Just play it to enjoy it. If you think it's too easy, make it harder for yourself. That's how LASO was invented, that's how MLG made it's way to halo, and that's how "blindfold runs" were invented. If you didn't like Halo 4, you didn't have to comment on a thread that's talking explicitly about it. Alright, I'm done. Back on topic, people.
Edited by AllySuzumiya on Apr 13, 2013 at 04:41 PM

Why do you constantly branch off to other things, and twist my words? I never said halo 3's hitboxes weren't big, I said that they weren't as big as halo 4's hitboxes. Did you even read your own source? "A possible DMR rebalance was mentioned, though it was confirmed that weapon descoping will not be happening." I never said Halo 3 was supposed to be on a pedestal, in fact I almost hate 3 as much as 4, with its phys bullets, and random spread on the BR its really bad game. The connection host gets a huge advantage in halo 3 with phys bullets, making you have to lead your shots really far or not at all, depending on host. Project Epsilon was a pre-resale build that was illegally downloaded off the marketplace, and it was intended for Microsoft employees, so anyone who downloaded epsilon got banned. Halo 4's population had the same amount of people in 5 months that halo 3 had in a year in a half, and that isn't a problem? The game alienated its core user base, and it was made easy for new players.
This was taken from 343's GDC pannel

Do you realize why halo 4 was dropped from MLG? Because at its core it was bad, and no amount of tweaking could fix it. Just look at any competitive community halo forum, they are still arguing about settings.

When asked, they stated that they were going to address "de-scoping". The person who stated that it wouldn't be addressed was clearly misinformed or didn't follow Halo 4's update calender. They said they were addressing this issue in front of a live audience. Can't exactly deny that one, hun.
Also, have you realized that "MLG" isn't much to holler about? You say that Halo is "bad" and "unbalanced" yet the same people that allegedly dropped Halo 4 moved on to Black Ops 2, which is incredibly unbalanced and incredibly broken. Also, in order to have an argument that's forum-wide, there'd have to be near-equal forces backing either side of the argument. That means that as much people as there is who hate the settings, there's an equal, slightly greater or slightly lesser amount of people that love the settings. And "twisting your words"? Mon cher, the very objective of a person in an argument is to identify and exploit the faults of their opponent. Everyone has a different way of doing so. Sometimes, they'll point out flaws in their arguments to make their own argument appear more water-tight or they'll red-herring their opponent into revealing an aspect of themselves that would not persuade people to side with them. If you're tumultuous over the use of your own words against you, I only hope that you live with very few dealings with the law, because you'd find your words getting twisted by even the worst of lawyers. Oh and tangents are often necessary to better extrapolate on the issues presented in an argument. In some ways, it's better to go on a tangent than to call out the opponent on a flaw. When proposed in a way that an audience can relate to, they can better understand your argument and create a decision or opinion on it. Apologies for the short lecture on how to form a coherent argument. I didn't mean to offend you in any way and I'm sincerely sorry if I did. Might I ask, however, that you take a moment to regress on your words and my own before proposing another argument.

I hate to be a hypocrite and get off topic, but you're wrong here. MLG dropped halo because microsoft had signed an exclusivity deal with virgin. And of course competitive communities are arguing about settings. They say the game sucks because it isn't halo 2 part 4.

The fact that you defend yourself after not even reading your own source is laughable. Of course they left for black ops 2, they go where the money is, not to stick around on a dead game. Twisting words to better suit yourself makes you look like an idiot, because its written in text, so you can just reread what was written. Half the time you couldn't even counter all my points, so I don't understand how you can reiterate with such a statement. You don't even address points, you just change the topic. EX I said spawning with plasma pistol and plasma grenades nulls all vehicle combat, and you incorrectly state that the plasma pistol could EMP since Halo 2. Its implied that the plasma pistol can EMP, since we are disusing A halo game past the second.


They signed a deal, and it fell through. 343 is advertising AGL on the front page right now. Virgin gaming was only for the infinity challenge, not now.
http://blogs.halowaypoint.com/Headlines/post/2013/04/13/AGL-Nashville.aspx

Edited by KingNick220 on Apr 13, 2013 at 07:55 PM