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ChBgt909
Joined: Sep 10, 2011

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Posted: Jul 9, 2013 01:34 PM    Msg. 561 of 682       


i didn't have plans to release this map unprotected but...
what do you mean by "quality sauce" and "adjustments and tweaks"?



killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010

sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally


Posted: Jul 9, 2013 01:38 PM    Msg. 562 of 682       
i was going to more or less add the "extra detail for those who have the high powered computers to handle it. and i was going to use a halo 3 tagset that i'm working on, that looks as close as possible to the originals using the powers of opensauce.
Edited by killzone64 on Jul 9, 2013 at 01:49 PM


ChBgt909
Joined: Sep 10, 2011

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Posted: Jul 16, 2013 11:27 AM    Msg. 563 of 682       
~UPDATES, PLEASE READ SO YOU GET THE FULL CONCEPT OF THE SKY MODEL AND YOU AVOID UNNECESSARY QUESTIONS :-)~




Here is the sky.... well, at least half of it as i still have to add change and fix some things



First of all... the background color that looks like a distorted bluish metal panel is the unmapped model of the shield world's interior
I still have to add scattered clouds above in the sky as well as some other details to make it look pretty :3
hope you like it :D




This is blue base's side, i still have to add the islands and maybe some more details behind the mountains or on the mountains themselves







Red base's side, it has those huge forerunner towers as well as a big aS* mountain





I still have to improve the quality of those clouds, and i will remove some of the clouds that are inside of the red circle and add landscape under it


Edited by ChBgt909 on Jul 16, 2013 at 11:28 AM


Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011

Dead.


Posted: Jul 16, 2013 11:34 AM    Msg. 564 of 682       
The structures are absolutely beautiful.


stunt_man
Joined: Sep 22, 2009

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Posted: Jul 16, 2013 12:02 PM    Msg. 565 of 682       
Nice sky!

Did you make those mountain bitmaps?


grunt_eater
Joined: Jan 26, 2011

Everything except biped rigging.


Posted: Jul 16, 2013 12:33 PM    Msg. 566 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: Dumb AI
The structures are absolutely beautiful.


They are, they look like detail strait out of a modern game.


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

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Posted: Jul 16, 2013 01:00 PM    Msg. 567 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: grunt_eater
Quote: --- Original message by: Dumb AI
The structures are absolutely beautiful.


They are, they look like detail strait out of a modern game.


He either made them and rendered them in 3ds max or there from Halo 4 or something of the like. Either way they are bitmaps, obviously.


ChBgt909
Joined: Sep 10, 2011

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Posted: Jul 16, 2013 01:23 PM    Msg. 568 of 682       
Glad you like it guys :D
i will just finish the sky and run lighting again and add the rest of flags for games and i'm finished!

Edited by ChBgt909 on Jul 16, 2013 at 01:25 PM


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

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Posted: Jul 16, 2013 03:21 PM    Msg. 569 of 682       
the sky is nice, but I think the shield world edge is too sharp. If you could make it look more curved, it might look nicer


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Jul 16, 2013 05:37 PM    Msg. 570 of 682       
I agree the metal looks bad. Without reading I thought it was just placeholder. Add curves too it and add terrain as well, like the interior of the shield world from Halo Wars. The sun could be in the middle.


ChBgt909
Joined: Sep 10, 2011

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Posted: Jul 16, 2013 08:31 PM    Msg. 571 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
I agree the metal looks bad. Without reading I thought it was just placeholder. Add curves too it and add terrain as well, like the interior of the shield world from Halo Wars. The sun could be in the middle.


at first i wanted to make it a dyson sphere, it makes sense since that's the only concept of shield world that exist right now, but i didn't make it like that because of the sun position and also because i wanted to make something original

i will finish this model (with more curves as you guys said), AND i'm gonna let you see it and decide whether it should be changed to a dyson sphere or something different from my initial concept

i will have the model complete by friday, see you all then and thanks for the advice i appreciate it! :)


UHWArby
Joined: Jul 2, 2013

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Posted: Jul 19, 2013 10:58 AM    Msg. 572 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: ChBgt909

~UPDATES, PLEASE READ SO YOU GET THE FULL CONCEPT OF THE SKY MODEL AND YOU AVOID UNNECESSARY QUESTIONS :-)~




Here is the sky.... well, at least half of it as i still have to add change and fix some things



First of all... the background color that looks like a distorted bluish metal panel is the unmapped model of the shield world's interior
I still have to add scattered clouds above in the sky as well as some other details to make it look pretty :3
hope you like it :D




This is blue base's side, i still have to add the islands and maybe some more details behind the mountains or on the mountains themselves

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj526/ChBgt909/WIP%20ChBgt909%20unnamed%20map%2001/328.jpg
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj526/ChBgt909/WIP%20ChBgt909%20unnamed%20map%2001/329.jpg




Red base's side, it has those huge forerunner towers as well as a big aS* mountain

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj526/ChBgt909/WIP%20ChBgt909%20unnamed%20map%2001/330.jpg
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj526/ChBgt909/WIP%20ChBgt909%20unnamed%20map%2001/331.jpg


I still have to improve the quality of those clouds, and i will remove some of the clouds that are inside of the red circle and add landscape under it

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj526/ChBgt909/WIP%20ChBgt909%20unnamed%20map%2001/332.jpg
Edited by ChBgt909 on Jul 16, 2013 at 11:28 AM


Wait What? IS REAL ? or background

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj526/ChBgt909/WIP%20ChBgt909%20unnamed%20map%2001/330.jpg


killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010

sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally


Posted: Jul 19, 2013 11:29 AM    Msg. 573 of 682       
They are images applied to a plane. It looks a bit crisp compared to the rest of the map. There is quite a difference in details between the pillars and bsp.


Ubergoober
Joined: Oct 11, 2010


Posted: Jul 31, 2013 04:09 AM    Msg. 574 of 682       
how long until release ChBgt909?


Mushi
Joined: Jul 21, 2007

Halo's Ring is just, Awesome.


Posted: Jul 31, 2013 08:13 AM    Msg. 575 of 682       
*Gets my Camera ready*


ChBgt909
Joined: Sep 10, 2011

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Posted: Jul 31, 2013 09:07 PM    Msg. 576 of 682       
I might have it ready the next week, everything is pretty much complete, i just need to finish the sky model, add net game flags and run radiosity again


...i'm truly sorry for not having the map ready, it's just that, as you know, it's summer! lol

i've been traveling for few days and then go back to my city, go somewhere with friends or do stuff here and there.... but i'm also taking lessons of autoCAD to use it in my job, my dad has been taking me to his job in a company and i have been visitng oil facilities, even oil rigs!

so yeah, making it short... i've been busy so yeah. This map was supposed to be ready by the end of June or first week of July but, due to these thing i mentioned i couldn't

i'll do everything i can to have this map ready next week, i will make the announcement

thank you all for the help and support and i hope you enjoy playing this map as much as i did making it! ^_^

Edited by ChBgt909 on Jul 31, 2013 at 09:11 PM


Ubergoober
Joined: Oct 11, 2010


Posted: Aug 1, 2013 07:31 AM    Msg. 577 of 682       
awesome, cheers for the update :)


GLaDOS
Joined: Dec 6, 2011

Testing you.


Posted: Aug 1, 2013 09:56 AM    Msg. 578 of 682       
Are you going to add some clouds to the forerunner towers?


Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011

Dead.


Posted: Aug 1, 2013 11:07 AM    Msg. 579 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: ChBgt909

I might have it ready the next week, everything is pretty much complete, i just need to finish the sky model, add net game flags and run radiosity again


...i'm truly sorry for not having the map ready, it's just that, as you know, it's summer! lol

i've been traveling for few days and then go back to my city, go somewhere with friends or do stuff here and there.... but i'm also taking lessons of autoCAD to use it in my job, my dad has been taking me to his job in a company and i have been visitng oil facilities, even oil rigs!

so yeah, making it short... i've been busy so yeah. This map was supposed to be ready by the end of June or first week of July but, due to these thing i mentioned i couldn't

i'll do everything i can to have this map ready next week, i will make the announcement

thank you all for the help and support and i hope you enjoy playing this map as much as i did making it! ^_^

Edited by ChBgt909 on Jul 31, 2013 at 09:11 PM

I am so anxious to run around on your map.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

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Posted: Aug 1, 2013 11:42 AM    Msg. 580 of 682       
Can't wait to play it man!


UHWArby
Joined: Jul 2, 2013

PIPO vive


Posted: Aug 6, 2013 04:55 PM    Msg. 581 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Can't wait to play it man!


ME TOOO


Ubergoober
Joined: Oct 11, 2010


Posted: Aug 7, 2013 10:19 AM    Msg. 582 of 682       
please include a race gametype :)


ChBgt909
Joined: Sep 10, 2011

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Posted: Aug 8, 2013 07:29 PM    Msg. 583 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: Ubergoober
please include a race gametype :)


I always include all gametypes so don't worry, it will have race! an epic one hopefully! :D
i'm really sorry for taking too long, but don't worry, vacations are over now!

and i will soon show in a new thread a new map concept! so stay tuned! :P


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

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Posted: Aug 8, 2013 11:45 PM    Msg. 584 of 682       
If all else fails, you could name the map "Sheild"


Ubergoober
Joined: Oct 11, 2010


Posted: Aug 17, 2013 01:48 PM    Msg. 585 of 682       
hows it going there ChBgt909?


ChBgt909
Joined: Sep 10, 2011

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Posted: Aug 17, 2013 03:44 PM    Msg. 586 of 682       
Well guys, sorry to disappoint you but this map will no longer be on a shield world... i made a mistake when i made this sky model (mistake i didn't do when i did imposing's sky) and because of this the model i had as shield world was overlapping with the rest of the components of the sky so i had to remove it (i won't make this sky model from scratch again just to fix this sorry)

so this is how it looks like without the shield world model, notice that i added a couple of planets, changed color of the clouds on the bottom added a texture to the ground on the bottom and added some clouds scattered up in the sky







I still have to add more stuff in the background to make it look better and i will add an island on the sea part of the sky
Edited by ChBgt909 on Aug 17, 2013 at 03:45 PM


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

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Posted: Aug 17, 2013 04:03 PM    Msg. 587 of 682       
Map still looks sick. If I may make a suggestion, maybe separate the three pillars a slight bit? it looks a bit too cramped imo


ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010

Aye Ready


Posted: Aug 17, 2013 04:14 PM    Msg. 588 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: R93_Sniper
Map still looks sick. If I may make a suggestion, maybe separate the three pillars a slight bit? it looks a bit too cramped imo


yeah breaking that image of the pillars into 3 parts to spread the pillars out might look better. btw the image of the pillars fits your sky really well.


ChBgt909
Joined: Sep 10, 2011

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Posted: Aug 17, 2013 05:58 PM    Msg. 589 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: waffles
Take a look at the requiem skies in h4 with adjutant if you can, to see what 343 did to get the sky effectively "closed" off in terms of a shield world. Its really simple, if you don't have the maps I can quick screencap the mesh to your referencing.



i'd appreciate if you could take some screenshots of Requiem's sky model for reference, i don't have any h4 map, in fact, i no longer have Adjutant in my computer i need to download it again :(


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Posted: Aug 17, 2013 07:05 PM    Msg. 590 of 682       
with no overhanging clouds I think the lower clouds should be whiter, and with nothing beyond the pillars it looks as though the map's floating/there's a giant blue wall.


ChBgt909
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Posted: Aug 17, 2013 09:16 PM    Msg. 591 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: waffles

http://imageshack.us/a/img109/1403/vggi.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img59/2/a7pv.jpg

The very outer mesh is what makes up the "ceiling" of the sky, its a slightly warped half-sphere with a simple tiled texture. The other meshes conceal the non-existant portions of the half-sphere.

The basic make-up of a generic halo 4 sky (under requiem) is as follows;

-(outside mesh to inner most mesh)
-The half-sphere that imitates a shield world environment
-The skydome's color map/atmosphere; usually a simple fade from dark colors to light colors, -a simple gradient akin to CE's dome textures.
-A base wrap-around hdri sky with clouds (usually alpha blended)
-Alpha masked/multiplied elements such as clouds/trees/ships/etc

Just place a half sphere around the outside of your skydome/pick a tiling texture. Then you need to make sure the skydome is exposed at the very top only.
Edited by waffles on Aug 17, 2013 at 06:27 PM



Thanks for the pics! Well let me see what i can do, the problem i have is that, even tho the shield world model was behind everything else in the model, in-game it made mountains and structures disappear as if they were "behind"... i didn't have this problem with the sky i made for imposing and i think i know how to fix it but it implies having to do everything again from scratch... i might do it tho


Quote: --- Original message by: master noob
with no overhanging clouds I think the lower clouds should be whiter, and with nothing beyond the pillars it looks as though the map's floating/there's a giant blue wall.


There's no sky texture yet. The blue sky color you see is the raw color given by "outer atmosphere fog color" chosen in the sky tag


stunt_man
Joined: Sep 22, 2009

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Posted: Aug 17, 2013 09:32 PM    Msg. 592 of 682       
Sounds like render order is messed up. Did you number the different objects in your sky model like so?



I remember seeing in some tutorial that the numbering of the objects is what controls render order. Maybe you don't have to restart from scratch?


ChBgt909
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Posted: Aug 25, 2013 07:30 PM    Msg. 593 of 682       
well guys i tried to set up the regions for the sky as i saw in some tutorial from some thread (i also tried what "stunt_man" said in the post above this one) and nothing seems to work, i still get some messed up shaders putting themselves in front of another

please, if someone knows how to use regions for skies please show me a proper tutorial on how to do it, i tried reading the "custom sky tutorial" and it doesn't even mention regions!

I don't know what did i do in Imposing's sky... i didn't have this problem with that sky... and i didn't even know about regions... o.O

Pic of how i have my "regions" set up according to the tutorial i saw i a thread



Edited by ChBgt909 on Aug 25, 2013 at 07:34 PM


Maniac1000
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Posted: Aug 26, 2013 12:36 AM    Msg. 594 of 682       
What type of shaders are you using?


ChBgt909
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Posted: Aug 26, 2013 09:28 AM    Msg. 595 of 682       
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000
What type of shaders are you using?


shader_transparent_chicago and one shader_transparent_water
Edited by ChBgt909 on Aug 26, 2013 at 09:30 AM

 
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