If there was a way to incorporate a game-wide update update, enabling the alternative multiplayer and enhanced dlls, that would be cool. The thing is, where does Halo pull its updates from?

Could d3d9.dll have something to do with that? ...I don't have any experience in hacking the core files, so that's just my gut speaking there.

EDIT: Misunderstood the question, my bad. Please see Jaz's post below.
Edited by renegade343 on Dec 9, 2012 at 06:26 PM

Halo pulls it's updates from Microsoft's servers most likely. If they close the Gamespy servers, I'm sure Bungie would be happy to roll out a small patch to switch update servers before the final shutdown.

Or if Bungie doesn't do so, we could just tell everyone to manually switch master servers. Red Faction survived when players had to switch master hosts. (Survived for like a year anyway. Then everyone left because they realised it got boring)

We can thank tool errors for that! :3

I am surprised at the absolute stupidity in this thread.
Lets panic about nothing and come up with ridiculous ideas on how to fix something that either is not broken at all or only slightly fractured.
IF halo gets dropped by gamespy, it would be a very simple task to open a 3rd party app and join games from there.

If you are to panic in this fashion, make sure you know where your towel is at least.

Their team creates custom models. I heard a few people from 343i are helping out as well.

People all around us are bombarding 343i, bungie, and Gearbox (what's left of Gearbox) for it, and have been for some time. at some point they will (hopefully) whoever has the rights to do so. that may take some time... and lets be honest it may never happen, but we can ALWAYS hope.

once GOC is up and running, i'll be playing Halo PC and GOC.

What's left of Gearbox!? They are doing quite well with their games: Brothers in Arms and Borderland 1 & 2, they now own the Duke Nukem franchise and have two other titles in development. Gearbox is going strong right now.


Edited by Dennis on Dec 9, 2012 at 09:54 PM

hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy reference?



I was initially shocked and saddened when I read the OP, but after giving a little thought I have to agree with Dennis on this topic. Nobody has officially said halo's servers are being shut down. Unless I am mistaken, the post that everyone is talking about listed several games that are being shut down, but halo was not mentioned.

Besides, we have already established that if they were to shut down the servers the community could come up with an alternative (without anything so extreme as migrating to cryengine 3)

I don't think I have ever seen a topic grow to 6 pages in such a short amount of time, at least we know that everyone values this community.



I agree that gearbox is stronger than ever... but I don't know that I would have mentioned duke nukem in order to make that point.
Edited by Yoda on Dec 9, 2012 at 09:57 PM

wow I am retarded today. ._. been stuck thinking its 2008

I haven't confirmed it yet,

But one of my friends said that Gamespy's email newsletter confirmed that the date the servers shut down on January 3rd, 2013.

Again, not confirmed since I lack the evidence, but a very real possibility.

Lol they are using Halo: Aero ODSTs. I got so much flame for ripping when I was working on that, even got C&D'd by Creydev. However all the custom content that was left is in that video. I'm well over it, but lmao. That is pathetic. Their whole team hates me, because I joined, showed them all up, and then deleted their facebook page after they gave me admin, they were devastated. There game was so much more in-depth and had so much more content than it does now, and the main dude was RAGING at me because they stored all the data on facebook and I forever deleted it.

>they stored all the data on facebook
No one had a backup. That is when I felt no regret. Lol, and now they use custom content from my game which they all were oh-so against. LOL.

Who the hell saves such a MASSIVE project on facebook? Let alone, ONLY facebook. Just, wow.

EDIT: BTW that trailer consist of crappy models placed over current Crytek animations colored using the default editor, not-UV'd or textured, just colored. I told them their modeler, sucked, got flamed. Look at this amazing trailer they cam up with to show the world. There is no plot, or anything behind the trailer.The ODST pod cutscenes can be made in 5 seconds in CE3, and half those levels are sample levels, along with some custom levels, however making a level in CE3 is so simple when it comes to landscape, that they did no extra work. no forerunner/buildings/etc, just a classic raise/lower tools, and tree and water placement.

They just have a fancy website, and a team of 7 15 year olds, probabaly 17 now.

Want to see a REAL CE3 mod? This guys hpcwarlord, MAJOR props, 1 man team, he knows what he's doing. Check out his vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acx3rusqY10&list=UUDDMFZVVAzCZRhsm1nqqKeg&index=49

EDIT 2: Not only do they put together a crap trailer... Look at one of their renders on the HOMEPAGE of Crydec.

Look in that little tube on the right wall (Where the sentinels would come out) Look like they deleted a couple faces in there, and simply capped it with the border tool, some TERRIBLE planars in there...
Edited by iHalo on Dec 10, 2012 at 01:00 AM

Most of us are actually thinking of ways to save multiplayer in case of an incident like this and making sure everyone's prepared just in case. That is not panicing.

There are some who are having drastic discussions though. WTF is with this Cryengine 3 discussion? It'll NEVER come to that and if it does, it's no alternative for Halo for the entire community. You can never get even half of the Halo community to move over to a Cryengine 3 port. It's impossible even if you manage the impossible task of making the Cryengine port in the first place.

But yeah, it's only a few who are having strange and frankly stupid discussions.

Edited by ODST_Nick on Dec 10, 2012 at 12:58 AM

... the only thing going down from gamespy is the server browser.

STOP PANICKING

NO!!!! The Extinction server I play on is dead!!!

NOT Good!

...no one is panicking...

E: except Tapercity
Edited by SilentJacket on Dec 10, 2012 at 08:46 AM

well, we are coming up with a solution

what is the point in panicking when you know that there is a solution

Hi
Help me, I know almost nothing about Halo games besides the CE trial, what is the difference:
Combat evolved and Custom edition?
Isnt it a bit strange to use the same letters??
I got here cause my trial didnt find any servers anymore and now I know why, i registered here now.
(found it with Google and fastly entered only cause of the subject)
Another noob-question, is this board for Xbox only or PC -games or both?
That trial (CE) was played on both platforms.
Next noob-question, when I played (only for a month or so) on my PC, where then some of the players in the fights, on Xbox?
I mainly played on the server "rathill" (JPN) - the Bloodgulch map and moving hill and teams.

But whats the problem, the only thing to do is to learn everyone how to manage the firewalls and set up direct IP-play. For me it seems to be only a problem to inform about the IP-number for the server(s) after that some ppl set them up.
Just now I cant myself cause i go only with 3 G (phone as modem) and its too slow.

Therefore I was not a killer ... but Im also old in compare to the most players - I believe, anyhow fast enough :)
I use to play chess, a game in one minute or less so its the internet and the comp/mouse wich limites my reactions..
too bad
Edited by Nottakiller on Dec 10, 2012 at 09:40 AM

This is the first time in a week I was able to log in the forum without long running script errors
on my web browser.

But I hope there is a solution.

The extinction server I was talking about was the only true 24/7 one. It always had at least 8 players.

If anyone reading here now has the PC-trial Combat Evolved, give it a try, I have a game up on IP:

EDIT Noone came and I also tried to connect from another computer, managing the firewalls in both, one XP and one Win7, but it didnt work at all to connect.
I used the right IP and also the right port.

This is bad!!! Anyone tested direct IP-play?
Edited by Nottakiller on Dec 10, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Thanx for clearing things out, making all the "?" stright

well I will try to learn to custom it to so I stay ...

http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=42043

this forum explains it all
Edited by whiskey 1 on Dec 10, 2012 at 01:43 PM

Maniac is right, too many people are panicking. Let's not spam and freak every company related to Halo Forget about Cryengine ports or anything.

One thing we have to prepare ourselves to: Have a solution to replace gamespy, make it EASY and RELIABLE so the community isn't shredded to pieces by bad up time.

Question, how heavy is a "Gamespy server list replacement" to maintain?

What about xfire? It has favorite servers, clans have their own servers etc. We could just use that or make external application to find servers somehow and use same way to join.

Also what about new master game server?

There's more to it, we'll need some kind of visual interface to make it easy to use. Again, 3P applications work fairly easily with Halo. Things like Flycam, IG Brains and others have proved in the past that much can be done.

I'm ceasing any work on my replacement server until we actually lose the master.
However, if you can get a good proof-of-concept up for that method, I'll consider developing it for ya.

I don't think it's possible with just an edited UI.

Once I get my master server fully functional, I'll fork OS's codebase and use OS to redirect requests for the master to my server.

It's pretty hard to do it without a hook like OS. A DNS modification would work, but most people on here probably have no idea how to add a dns record.
If you catch me on xfire, I can help you get OS running.

Well this isn't good to hear. Did I see somebody trying to work on a replacement server browser in here earlier in the thread?

Yes as far as we are aware a replacement server browser is being worked on.

Is there any way I (and/or anyone) could help out on that, even if we barely have any coding
experience? (I've played around with C++, HTML and Fortran a few times, but I doubt that'd help..?)

Meh.I'm pretty sure whoever is working on it doesn't need any help.

My heart is broken. I am going to miss this.