true but trying never hurts. plus we actually have some leverage this time. though since they based all of the later games on the halo1 source code could be problematic. but isn't the pc source code different from the Xbox code?
Edited by killzone64 on Dec 9, 2012 at 01:21 PM

i looked before and they did :(

There's a surprising amount of people on Trial. I bet they're devastated, and their coommunity.

PC is next, then...

Whether GameSpy will actually kill this game's Multiplayer or not, it doesn't really matter...
I think what's important is that people are actually looking at ways to overhaul the game now -something that's been overdue for years.



Eleven years is an eternity on the Internet; it's a miracle that our game is still put on life support.
I think we could all be more grateful about that...



Exactly, getting everyone's attention to this website is exactly what we need! I'm kinda surprised that noone replied to this comment..

this Cannot be.
Hopefully if there's enough of an outcry, Microsoft may fund a new "Halo: CE PC" project.
it most likely won't happen, but we should all go to the Halo Waypoint forums and plea for help, it may cause something.
as for someone figuring out how to create a replacement for the Gamespy server, you would be the worlds greatest hero.

anyone up to the task of trying to build a new Halo Custom edition, as Hard and as long as it may take, and as impossible as it sounds? I can't help yet, I'm not great at any coding or 3D stuff, but I think I could help manage the project.

(Cant access my account i've had since 2008)
Edited by SpartanCedric527 on Dec 9, 2012 at 02:42 PM

we should port everything to cryengine3 :3

How realistic would that be?

well:

1) its that or crack halo's source code if we want to do anything more with it
2) cryengine3 is free for non-commercial use
3) It would give us some powerful tools

http://mycryengine.com

SpartanCedric was talking about rebuilding it from scratch, how realistic is that?
Edited by SilentJacket on Dec 9, 2012 at 02:50 PM

It's not realistic. Possible, but not doable, I don't think.
I didn't think of CryEngine. that'd most likely work, we could even add stuff to the game we couldn't add before.

Wont that be illegal? If they really do shut down halo ce we could still use the cryengine3 but make our own game or something.

I don't think they really care at this point

at the same time, I don't think they would go through the effort to release CE's source code

Might want to check your wording there buddy.

If CE MP dies, I'm pretty much gone.

Microsoft's User Content License (or whatever that was called -I keep forgetting its name) lets us use their assets as long as we don't reverse-engineer it or use it for profit.

The reverse-engineering clause is kinda redundant, since they kinda gave us the tools to do so.
But otherwise, no it should be legal. If it wasn't, then everything we do on this site is also illegal.


CryEngine, huh... That does make the most sense, and in the long term, that might be the best idea.
But for what we want, I don't think that's the right way to go.

If we're going to create new content, then sure, their SDK seems really amazing...
But how do we port existing content to CryEngine and migrate all players to the new engine?

From what I understand, you have to pay to get that engine, too, so I think that'll discourage a lot of people from getting it.

Besides, wouldn't a lot of people in this forum have to re-learn how to mod, if we move to CryEngine?
We won't have Tool, there's no Guerilla or Sapien... Heck, can we even use GMax?

Considering all that... is it still a good idea to move?

Not like it's going to do anything but I've posted on the Waypoint Forums
"Dear 343 industries and the entire Halo Community
Halo: Combat Evolved for PC is about to die, as you already know.
If you are Truly Dedicated to Halo, you WILL re-port Halo: custom Edition to the PC and Host it. You could even charge 30 bucks a copy for it and make a substantial profit. As a Halo Custom Edition player since early 2008, I would be appalled if nothing was done to support a community that has lasted 11 Years. This is my plea to all who hear me, and especially 343 industries, we cannot allow this to happen.

Cyborgs Unite."

Kinda lame but whatever

cryengine3 is free for non-commercial use

that being said, it is true that you might have to learn how to modify it to do what you want

in addition it might shut out people with sub-standard computers if we go nuts with the new engine

will you stop that?

Or alternatively just umm...

Play a different game. :/

no Jaz. other games are for wimps.

do you know any other games where the community has been given such powerful tools as that it has generated huge amounts of creative content?

from it we took a 11 year old game and gave it amazing graphics, firefight capabilities, assets from games made long after its release and more.

could you say that for any other game?

in my opinion, Halo CE is too special to lose

Awesome. Turns out Realworld's already aware of Btcc2's work and they're supporting him.

So one of the biggest CE hosts is already ready for the switch...


... ARE YOU?

Btcc2?

Awesome! ...except... sorry, but who are they, and how're they gonna pull this off?

If you want to know who Btcc is, read sehe's post.

If you want to know who Realworld are, they're a large guild and one of the largest and most popular server hosts on CE. So they're one of the guilds that need to know about alternative master servers if CE's going to continue running.

where will BTCC2's tools and patch and .dll be posted? on this site?

i'm not sure if rooster teeth would have the leverage, even though they attribute a pretty good sized chunk of halos success.

It's allready in progress 0.o

http://www.crydev.net/newspage.php?news=102871


their website:
http://www.bvgstudios.net/h6-galaxy-of-combat
Edited by SilentJacket on Dec 9, 2012 at 05:20 PM

I had a look at it and there's no way we can accurately recreate the multilayer experience of a halo game in ce3. It's painful to get something like a model ingame, and with the way you make levels it would be very hard to get a halo esk bsp ingame.

We at least can't go down without a fight.
Something, anything, a release of the Source would be immensely helpful, or support from 343i and Microsoft (which will be neigh impossible to achieve) to keep the servers alive.
A source release and some way to impliment a 2.0 that would complete some of the things that are ALMOST possible with the halo engine, like the flashlight being the placeholder for the potential armor abilities, the possibility of adding a sprint to halo, maybe a more loosely open source system that stems away from the slosed .MAP tagset.

reguardless of the mumbojumbo that is coming out of my fingertips, post anywhere and anywhere on every community you know for halo, even 343i's twitter, just to get their attention, maybe make them DO something.

can anyone link me to Btcc2 or something?

P.S. I have a new slogan
Cyborgs Unite
Edited by SpartanCedric527 on Dec 9, 2012 at 05:26 PM

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst161547_RIP-Halo-CE--The-end-of-an-era.aspx

the waypoint forms is the place where good ideas go to die

try contacting them via twitter, they are much more active there.

We should all go to twitter and day and night every few hours say something of importance, a memory, or a hope for halo Custom edition and Halo's future on the PC.

Galaxy of Combat? I knew they were around, but I didn't know FlameOmega/M16 Assault was involved in this... This should be interesting.

Only when we end up no longer being able to use Halo:CE at all for multiplayer, then this could be an option.
Remember, we're not the only people playing Halo:CE! There's no point in migrating if everyone else does not come along!

Until we know that for sure that multiplayer will die, I don't think we should jump in that bandwagon yet. Let's try to keep CryEngine as our last resort, and at least try to get the source code through 343/Bungie/Gearbox/whoever, first?
Edited by renegade343 on Dec 9, 2012 at 06:02 PM

CE is not dying... CE will still live the only thing that will go away is the server browser, and that is if they decide to shut halo servers down.

Right, I understand that. When I said...

...I meant if MP dies, I wasn't assuming that it will.

But whether it really does die off or not, it's not pointless to think about renovating or migrating this game's engine and content, right?

we wouldn't be here if we gave up just because we ran into a problem