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SpartanCedric527 Joined: Dec 9, 2012 We're surrounded? Poor ba**ards.	Posted: Dec 10, 2012 09:58 PM Msg. 176 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: Corvette19 My heart is broken. I am going to miss this. Don't worry, Have faith in these people, I do. This is too good to let die.

OpsY Joined: Feb 19, 2007 Frobisher Bay	Posted: Dec 10, 2012 10:14 PM Msg. 177 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: HaloExtreme117 Quote: --- Original message by: reeiiko15 Does it need to be done with OS? I still haven't been able to get that working. It's pretty hard to do it without a hook like OS. A DNS modification would work, but most people on here probably have no idea how to add a dns record. If you catch me on xfire, I can help you get OS running. I am no scripter, I haven't messed with anything other than Halo Scripts in years. I am, however, very optimistic. Apps like IG Brains are able to "pull" memory from Halo and modify it. It wouldn't work the same way, but there is a way to retrieve the "Server IP" and thus, a 3P app that would "Read" this would be able to upload it's status to a new "Master List" and Vice / Versa. Again, I am optimistic a solution can be found. For example, the game version changer by geomitar. It's blended somewhat by adding different commands to the game, since you use console to define what version of the game you want. Now, if we can add custom commands, then UI can "Call" that new custom command. I don't know much about UI, can anyone confirm this is possible?

SpartanCedric527 Joined: Dec 9, 2012 We're surrounded? Poor ba**ards.	Posted: Dec 10, 2012 11:45 PM Msg. 178 of 236 I'm pretty confident in this Community. Hell, you guys compel me to try to learn this stuff just so I can help and not leech. this might sound kinda wierd, but OpsY is proof that people actually care about a 9 year old game that keeps on giving.

Corvette19 Joined: Feb 27, 2007	Posted: Dec 10, 2012 11:48 PM Msg. 179 of 236 Alright guys I have contacted Gamespy on Twitter, Facebook, email, and through their website. I'll post here when I get an official response!

Slayer117 Joined: Oct 3, 2008 Host of CE3 2010-forever!	Posted: Dec 10, 2012 11:56 PM Msg. 180 of 236 oh yes cause gamespy will talk to a kid on the internet.

Controversial Joined: Dec 11, 2012	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:17 AM Msg. 181 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: iHalo Quote: --- Original message by: SilentJacket It's allready in progress 0.o http://www.crydev.net/newspage.php?news=102871 their website: http://www.bvgstudios.net/h6-galaxy-of-combat Edited by SilentJacket on Dec 9, 2012 at 05:20 PM Lol they are using Halo: Aero ODSTs. I got so much flame for ripping when I was working on that, even got C&D'd by Creydev. However all the custom content that was left is in that video. I'm well over it, but lmao. That is pathetic. Their whole team hates me, because I joined, showed them all up, and then deleted their facebook page after they gave me admin, they were devastated. There game was so much more in-depth and had so much more content than it does now, and the main dude was RAGING at me because they stored all the data on facebook and I forever deleted it. >they stored all the data on facebook No one had a backup. That is when I felt no regret. Lol, and now they use custom content from my game which they all were oh-so against. LOL. Who the hell saves such a MASSIVE project on facebook? Let alone, ONLY facebook. Just, wow. EDIT: BTW that trailer consist of crappy models placed over current Crytek animations colored using the default editor, not-UV'd or textured, just colored. I told them their modeler, sucked, got flamed. Look at this amazing trailer they cam up with to show the world. There is no plot, or anything behind the trailer.The ODST pod cutscenes can be made in 5 seconds in CE3, and half those levels are sample levels, along with some custom levels, however making a level in CE3 is so simple when it comes to landscape, that they did no extra work. no forerunner/buildings/etc, just a classic raise/lower tools, and tree and water placement. They just have a fancy website, and a team of 7 15 year olds, probabaly 17 now. Want to see a REAL CE3 mod? This guys hpcwarlord, MAJOR props, 1 man team, he knows what he's doing. Check out his vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acx3rusqY10&list=UUDDMFZVVAzCZRhsm1nqqKeg&index=49 EDIT 2: Not only do they put together a crap trailer... Look at one of their renders on the HOMEPAGE of Crydec. http://www.crydev.net/download/file.php?id=94154 Look in that little tube on the right wall (Where the sentinels would come out) Look like they deleted a couple faces in there, and simply capped it with the border tool, some TERRIBLE planars in there... Edited by iHalo on Dec 10, 2012 at 01:00 AM I have been looking at Halomaps for a long time and I just checked out "Halo Galaxy of Combat" and it seems they are more mature than you. If a bunch of 15 years old (who could be 17 now) are able to not make remarks about you but for you to bring up this once again (I found the other thread) is just pure unreasonable hatred. For you to delete a team's work when they were so nice to you, doesn't make anything right. You didn't teach them a lesson or anything. You also bag on their models and what they do. Their work seems better than a lot of people here on the forums. And even some of their models look way better than yours. So how about you learn a little bit of respect for all people, they are working hard for goal (maybe you are too) and so mutually y'all should not try to bring each other down. You're an adult, start acting like one and stop being a little baby who holds grudges. They are acting like adults while you are here trying to act like a big bad guy. If you are so amazing get into the industry. If you don't want to be and even if you do, don't try to bring a bunch of younger people down because they are going for an ambitious goal. I saw their first trailer and I saw their newer one and I can tell they are getting better and better. And I believe they will continually get better with or without your demoralizing words. So either stop because you are embarrassing yourself or risk being proved wrong in the end. Edit: And like I said, it doesn't look that bad... I assume Galaxy of Combat is the same thing as Halo Galaxy of Combat? If so here is the CryDev post... http://www.crydev.net/newspage.php?news=102871 Now sorry if this sounds stupid, couldn't we all just do dedicated servers? Edited by Controversial on Dec 11, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Slayer117 Joined: Oct 3, 2008 Host of CE3 2010-forever!	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:21 AM Msg. 182 of 236 ^ Implying to stay on topic when you didn't even post on topic stuff. Here is a simple idea guys have the Servers IP on the servers website. It's simple.

HaloExtreme117 Joined: May 5, 2012 ~Gone~	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 01:49 AM Msg. 183 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: t3h m00kz Halo 1 will never have a solid online multiplayer experience. :( so gay Obvious teen is obvious.

Nottakiller Joined: Dec 10, 2012	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 03:26 AM Msg. 184 of 236 Custom edition is still working on multiplayer? Any clear signs in the sky that it will stop work or not? Dont talk so surrealistic please, be clear. What will happen if it goes the same way as combat evolved, will you not see greater "desperation" than mine here? My game is completely gone, isnt that a difference? And I got here cause I thought the forum was about my game. Anyhow I cant understand why not anyone comment my discussion about direct IP-play, is this not att all existing in your game??? Well I got an answer from Silent Jacket but perhaps he was talking only about combat evolved and all the rest about custom edition. I dont even have Halo PC and I hadnt heard about it before.. Before I buy a new Halo game I would like to know if it will work in the future or not. To change the maps is a bit fascinating for me to, but not that much, however I wanna learn the grounds for that manipulations and if the servers can handle any customiced map or if I have to use my own server for my own map and let all players get any code from me, all this is a black hole for me - still.. Though I am an old assembler-programmer knowing much about the heart of computers but not such applications for users like CE cause it never intrested me, only to play some good ready to use games. Thats I and me. Again - what about direct IP play Edited by Nottakiller on Dec 11, 2012 at 07:34 AM

Jaz Joined: Mar 21, 2010 [Insert sarcastic comment here]	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 06:33 AM Msg. 185 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: HaloExtreme117 Quote: --- Original message by: t3h m00kz Halo 1 will never have a solid online multiplayer experience. :( so gay Obvious teen is obvious. Incorrect. I know quite a few 20-30 year olds who still use such phrases. I'm 16 and I'd never use such a phrase. It is racist and makes no sense in definition whatsoever.

Jaz Joined: Mar 21, 2010 [Insert sarcastic comment here]	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 06:57 AM Msg. 186 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: Long Wang Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz Quote: --- Original message by: HaloExtreme117 Quote: --- Original message by: t3h m00kz Halo 1 will never have a solid online multiplayer experience. :( so gay Obvious teen is obvious. Incorrect. I know quite a few 20-30 year olds who still use such phrases. I'm 16 and I'd never use such a phrase. It is racist and makes no sense in definition whatsoever. You make no sense whatsoever. Gay is not a race. EDIT: Besides that, he obviously meant the other definition. He is very happy that Halo 1 will never have a solid online multiplayer experience.[/sarcasm] Edited by Long Wang on Dec 11, 2012 at 06:53 AM Define race. If you look at the biology, black people aren't a seperate race either as the only real difference between them and white people is their melanin. The race both black people and white people are a part of is the Homo Sapiens. So the term racism is misused all the time so who cares?

Jaz Joined: Mar 21, 2010 [Insert sarcastic comment here]	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 07:05 AM Msg. 187 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: reeiiko15 race /rās/ Noun 1. A competition between runners, horses, vehicles, boats, etc., to see which is the fastest in covering a set course. 2. Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics. Black people and white people are very similar physically. Only difference is colour. The major divisions of humankind are homo-sapiens, neanderthals, etc.

Jaz Joined: Mar 21, 2010 [Insert sarcastic comment here]	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 07:12 AM Msg. 188 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: Long Wang Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz Quote: --- Original message by: reeiiko15 race /rās/ Noun 1. A competition between runners, horses, vehicles, boats, etc., to see which is the fastest in covering a set course. 2. Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics. Black people and white people are very similar physically. Only difference is colour. The major divisions of humankind are homo-sapiens, neanderthals, etc. So you are classifying gays as a subspecies of homo sapiens, comparable to Neanderthals? No, not at all. I'm just pointing out that everyone misuses the term 'racist' so nobody should really care if I misuse it. So basically, stop being picky about it and move on.

Jaz Joined: Mar 21, 2010 [Insert sarcastic comment here]	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 07:21 AM Msg. 189 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: Long Wang It's clear that you still think that gay is a race. The real question is why. You don't think it's because of physical characteristics, and you don't think it's because they are a subspecies. So, why do you think gay is a race? I don't. I have explained above. Please move on.

Nottakiller Joined: Dec 10, 2012	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 07:49 AM Msg. 190 of 236 Gay and race. I feel forced to clear things out here, though you not clear things out for me about the games. Listen to me, I am 30 + which means I am half dead and is full of relevant information about life. First of all homo sapiens is a gay race. Everyone are born bi-sexual which I believe for you means gay. Most animals also are more or less gay. But ofcourse gays are not a race, the locical expression is like this : Homo sapiens => gays gays =>! Homo sapiens, that is, gays < = > homos is NOT true (no equivalens) Is this gay to you? I hope it makes you gay (happy)

Jaz Joined: Mar 21, 2010 [Insert sarcastic comment here]	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 07:59 AM Msg. 191 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: Nottakiller Gay and race. I feel forced to clear things out here, though you not clear things out for me about the games. Listen to me, I am 30 + which means I am half dead and is full of relevant information about life. First of all homo sapiens is a gay race. Everyone are born bi-sexual which I believe for you means gay. Most animals also are more or less gay. But ofcourse gays are not a race, the locical expression is like this : Homo sapiens => gays gays =>! Homo sapiens, that is, gays < = > homos is NOT true (no equivalens) Is this gay to you? I hope it makes you gay (happy) Kinda irrelevant, but yeah biologically there's nothing to differentiate attraction to different genders really. But psychologically we can differentiate so no, we are not all gay. Perhaps biologically, everyone kind of is, but in practice, because of psychology, most people aren't.

OHunterO Joined: May 24, 2012 .	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 08:04 AM Msg. 192 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz Quote: --- Original message by: HaloExtreme117 Quote: --- Original message by: t3h m00kz Halo 1 will never have a solid online multiplayer experience. :( so gay Obvious teen is obvious. Incorrect. I know quite a few 20-30 year olds who still use such phrases. I'm 16 and I'd never use such a phrase. It is racist and makes no sense in definition whatsoever. Well someone is a bit touchy... I also use the phrase sometimes, it's just an expression. And it's not bloody racist you idiot, like stated above, "race" is a division in the human race not someones gender attraction.

Nottakiller Joined: Dec 10, 2012	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:26 AM Msg. 193 of 236 How did you reach that solution? We are all born "bi" but the surroundings makes us take only one direction or the most of us. Thats the hetero-direction ofcourse thats found to be the most practical and nice direction by trial and error during the youth. Some are born with psycological defects that makes them go the not so usual way -the homosexual one. Ofcourse some psycologs doesnt agree but they are wrong. I am right. Who are seting up direct play for combat evolved? And on what IP? Perhaps you all must change back to that game soon And thats my only Halo today /Old chessplayer -was ment to be a reply on "we are all gay in the inside" but the quote went into a black hole Edited by Nottakiller on Dec 11, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Jesse Joined: Jan 18, 2009 Discord: Holy Crust#4500	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:18 AM Msg. 194 of 236 I'm surprised the Volturi have let this go on- erhm, I mean Dennis, totally what I meant. Gays and straights are no different. Races are physically different slightly (skulls.) aside from melanin, but my knowledge on that ends here. Whoever said races are not physically different and it's only the melanin is, well, a lower form of human. aka Stupid End that discussion guys, it really doesn't matter. Whoever responds about this topic after me is Gonna Aggravate Y'all. Edited by Jesse on Dec 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM Edited by Jesse on Dec 11, 2012 at 11:23 AM

SpartanCedric527 Joined: Dec 9, 2012 We're surrounded? Poor ba**ards.	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:26 PM Msg. 195 of 236 Can we please get back to the topic at hand? no more talk about bigotry or Racism and whatnot. BACK TO HALO CE NOW.

Nottakiller Joined: Dec 10, 2012	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:53 PM Msg. 196 of 236 Does that really matter? Its almost impossible to get an relevantanswer about games, ppl have other interests. Hard to believe almost everyone is prohibited to talk IP-play. yes, its - gay. bye ' (try some school ppl)

Jaz Joined: Mar 21, 2010 [Insert sarcastic comment here]	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 06:09 PM Msg. 197 of 236 Back on topic. For anyone who still doesn't understand this fully, Gamespy, uh... the journalist site one, clarifies it quite well. http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/122/1226912p1.html Apparently GLU's a classic manipulative, lying, evil, greedy corporation like the fairy tales it seems. They're insisting that game publishers are ending the servers themselves, but a few publishers have totally denied it. And I'm personally more inclined to believe the game publishers than GLU, some random corporation that appears to have no community links whatsoever. Even Microsoft is more trustworthy than this corporation that as far as I can see; nobody cares for.

Corvette19 Joined: Feb 27, 2007	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 07:42 PM Msg. 198 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: Nottakiller How did you reach that solution? We are all born "bi" but the surroundings makes us take only one direction or the most of us. Thats the hetero-direction ofcourse thats found to be the most practical and nice direction by trial and error during the youth. Some are born with psycological defects that makes them go the not so usual way -the homosexual one. Ofcourse some psycologs doesnt agree but they are wrong. I am right. Who are seting up direct play for combat evolved? And on what IP? Perhaps you all must change back to that game soon And thats my only Halo today /Old chessplayer -was ment to be a reply on "we are all gay in the inside" but the quote went into a black hole Edited by Nottakiller on Dec 11, 2012 at 10:28 AM Are you retarded? If people are born bi-sexual then explain every other animal in nature? LOL Quote: --- Original message by: Slayer117 oh yes cause gamespy will talk to a kid on the internet. I've seen where they have replied to people much younger than me. Age has nothing to do with it bro Edited by Corvette19 on Dec 11, 2012 at 07:45 PM

Hobbet360 Joined: Jan 10, 2012 ProTools > ToolPro	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 07:59 PM Msg. 199 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: Nottakiller Homo sapiens, that is, gays Homosapien, is a scientific term used to name the stage before now in the human evolution, and after the mungosapien. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosapien

Hobbet360 Joined: Jan 10, 2012 ProTools > ToolPro	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 08:06 PM Msg. 200 of 236 didnt you post that in my thread yesterday aswell?

Maniac1000 -Helpful Poster- Joined: Feb 24, 2007	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 08:58 PM Msg. 201 of 236 Maniac: i was going to ask you if you had heard that gamespy may be stopping the halo lobby Maniac: they stopped lots of games already Maniac: including halo trial Bitidork: wat Maniac: is it easy to make a 3rd party app to get list? Bitidork: youd need a 3rd-party host Bitidork: but it'd be easier just to direct connect Bitidork: thats what i do already when i play Maniac: dennis has a page that checks all running servers Maniac: its a pain to add the ip in halo Maniac: possible to make that easy? Maniac: like no copy and paste Bitidork: probably Bitidork: but itd be the same as a 3rd-party host Bitidork: and i think dennis just reflects the gamespy lobby page Maniac: i think that too Maniac: well Maniac: i was just puting a bug in your ear, because i know you are capable of such things Maniac: :) Bitidork: i dont have the resources for a site like that though Maniac: http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=42025 Maniac: if you find time to have a look Bitidork: but honestly it probably wouldnt be hard to set something up on a small scale where server hosts can go to your website and add their servers Bitidork: and then modify the halo client to refer to some websites Bitidork: essentially a DNS lookup but for halo servers Maniac: would you mind if i posted this chat on that thread? Maniac: the relevent parts anyway Bitidork: sure Bitidork: and then modify the halo client to refer to some websites meant these sites, not some websites Give anyone any good ideas?

game user10 Joined: Dec 9, 2011 Who is the Overseer?	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 09:03 PM Msg. 202 of 236 Right-clicking in Halo's console is equivalent to paste.

Jesse Joined: Jan 18, 2009 Discord: Holy Crust#4500	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:20 PM Msg. 203 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: Altheros00 It wasn't funny enough in your thread. It wasn't at all. Quote: --- Original message by: game user10 Right-clicking in Halo's console is equivalent to paste. We mean in the IP adding section, not console itself.

Maniac1000 -Helpful Poster- Joined: Feb 24, 2007	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:31 PM Msg. 204 of 236 Just incase anybody did not know, the arrow keys up and down will scroll through the last entered commands when using the console and when using tool via cmd :)

OpsY Joined: Feb 19, 2007 Frobisher Bay	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:38 PM Msg. 205 of 236 Yes, Biti would be one that can do it. For those who don't know him, he's coded the "IG" apps such as IG brains, he's a very competent coder. I've seen him do wonderful things with Halo scripts. Sadly, He's unknown to most of the community as he doesn't quite post here.

Jesse Joined: Jan 18, 2009 Discord: Holy Crust#4500	Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:16 PM Msg. 206 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: Altheros00 Jesse you feelin' smart dumbass. Only because you're here :)

StormUndBlackbird Joined: Oct 27, 2011 https://youtube.com/StormUndBlackbird	Posted: Dec 12, 2012 01:55 AM Msg. 207 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: gamespytech There have been a number of reports regarding the recent discontinuation of service to several online multiplayer games previously supported by GameSpy Technologies. We recognize that fans of games where the publisher has elected to discontinue GameSpy Technologies support are frustrated. However, reports that GameSpy Technologies �shutdown servers without warning� are simply inaccurate. GameSpy Technologies � a separate entity from GameSpy.com � is a service provider to game publishers. Each publisher contracting with GameSpy Technologies elects at its sole discretion whether or not to maintain support for its titles. A number of our publisher partners elected to allow their contracts for GameSpy Technologies� services to lapse by not continuing to pay for these services. In some cases this lapsing ranges back as much as four years. GameSpy Technologies has continued to provide months, and in some cases years, of service support for free. However we cannot be expected to provide a service free of charge to publishers who choose not to renew their service agreements and in some cases remain delinquent in delivering payment for past services. In each case reported in the press where there was a discontinuation of GameSpy Technologies� services, the applicable publisher was well aware that they had not made the required payments under their agreements with GameSpy Technologies. For the sake of clarity - the situation is identical to fans attributing fault to the hosting company of a popular website for ceasing hosting services, when the website owner refuses to pay its hosting bill. While we would hope and expect our publisher partners to message their user communities on changes in status of their games, often this is not done. The result is user confusion and frustration. It is regrettable that these publishers chose not to inform their users of the impending discontinuation of support. We understand the frustration of fans that until now weren�t clear on why their game has lost some of its functionality, but hope that this clarifies the situation. Thank you. Source: facebook.com/gamespytech

renegade343 Joined: Jun 26, 2012 CE3 Stage Modeler, Editor, and Writer	Posted: Dec 12, 2012 02:23 AM Msg. 208 of 236 That sounds like a reasonable cause behind all of this, but I don't think that's coincidence... Personally, I think it's kinda shameful that GamespyTech is just pointing their fingers at the publishers like that. Like sure, it's possible that the companies' contracts expired or whatnot, but as a service provider, I think Gamespytech was obliged to notify that to gamers beforehand. To keep going with the website analogy, a website provider would put up a placeholder for a redacted website, saying that their lease terms ran out or whatnot. That should help them stay more professional with their actions, and let both the audience and the site provider (game publishers) know what's going on... I think this is just irresponsible. (and/or maybe it's their stuffy reply that's pissing me off... I dunno.) But what's done is done -I forgot who it was, but I vaguely remember someone saying that the Bungie/GameSpy contract is indefinite? If that's true, then... ...hopefully, we should be fine for now. Not to say that we should change directions, though; a major software/system update is good for the community in the long run, of course.

SpartanCedric527 Joined: Dec 9, 2012 We're surrounded? Poor ba**ards.	Posted: Dec 12, 2012 10:29 AM Msg. 209 of 236 Wow GLU/Gamespytech you suck... Don't worry, this community has this covered, though I wish I could help XD

Jaz Joined: Mar 21, 2010 [Insert sarcastic comment here]	Posted: Dec 12, 2012 12:41 PM Msg. 210 of 236 Quote: --- Original message by: reeiiko15 The fact that this happened after Gamespy got new owners looks like more than a coincidence. My guess is that not only have the publishers suddenly refused to pay for the servers at what looks like the same time, but the new GS owners probably raised the prices as well. This is just my theory though. Edited by reeiiko15 on Dec 12, 2012 at 02:52 AM They did raise the prices. That is fact. Confirmed by multiple publishers. One of the confirmations is shown as a quote in a Gamespy.com article. (By the way, to clarify as done in the Gamespy article recently, Gamespy Technologies or PoweredByGamespy and Gamespy.com are different companies. PoweredByGamespy is responsible for all of the game servers. Gamespy.com is a journalism site and entirely seperate and owned by different people. (PoweredByGamespy is owned by GLU and Gamespy.com is owned by IGN Entertainment))

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