how bout "misa sa patay" for SeL and "misa untuk orang meninggal" for gonzo

maybe you could both change your map's names, like sel could change it to Requiem: deathroom (this is an example, im not very creative when it comes to names) and gonzo can change his to Requiem: wastelands (again, just an example). i really dont want to enter into this debate, i just hoped i may be able to defuse it as it seems like its going to become a nasty flamewar.
i dont want to take sides however, sel has finished his map and from what ive seen of halomaps since i joined, so many projects don't make it to completion, not saying that gonzo's won't, but with such a high rate of incompletions, one would think that you would have to give the name to he/she who finishes first.

now, to the map
i also love the doors, however ive discovered something a little unusual about them, i discovered that you can shoot your enemy through them, but only where the glass side panels are. and even when u line up the glass side panels of 2 doors you can still shoot your enemy through the 2 doors. i dont know if this can be fixed or if it's already known, just letting you know what i found.

http://www.xfire.com/profile/gooberphobia/screenshots/?view#112763092

http://www.xfire.com/profile/gooberphobia/screenshots/?view#112763088

in both pics there is someone on the other side of the door but the crosshair only goes red on the side glass panel and you can only shoot them through this side panel, not through the middle of the door.
Edited by Ubergoober on Apr 10, 2011 at 12:37 AM

Best idea yet. Although people might think that the two maps are a series. Requiem: Deatthroom and Requiem: Nova.

Real mature of you. For someone who has been in this business for a while, you sure are acting childish and intolerant. I'd think spending a few years in this kind of community would build up a sort of immunity to things like this, but I suppose it could summarily have the opposite effect. Nevertheless, I won't be joining you at your level. You have fun continuing to make a fool of yourself.

I came here to figure out who was naming their map Requiem. Holy cow. It was supposed to be as simple as 'Hey, I wanted to use Requiem for my large map, but you want to use it for your small map. What should we do to rectify this so we don't both release a map with the same name?'.

But no.

Your cocky self decided, for some reason or other, to turn it into some sort of big deal. Grow up already. I really don't understand why you're so worried, or what the hell your problem is, unless there's something under the surface going on here. You don't see me getting arrogant about my map, awesome as it is. It's better than yours in my own opinion, largely because it is my own labor, but also because I just don't liked close-quarters map designs. Too inviting of noob tactics. But in either case I'm not about to go preaching to the community about how my map is so much better than yours.

If you can't have even the common decency to be polite about all this, then whatever. You continue making your 'oh so special' map, and I'll continue mine. Obviously, you'll be done before me, as I still have quite a lot of work to do before alpha release. If this whole name issue can't be resolved due to your grotesque inaction, then do whatever you want, because it seems that's all that matters to you, anyway.

To those suggesting one or both of us rename our maps (and that are doing so politely), I'm considering the notion. If SeL decides his almighty superior map is to be named Requiem and gets it out before me, obviously, there's nothing I can do about it. I'll rename my map to something entirely different that will in no way bear any relation to Requiem or a production from SeL.

Since SeL will likely continue to stand idly as his map and its name are challenged, let this be an end-all: quit whining about the name. Move discussions about my map to my thread, and keep criticizing this one on this thread. Don't mix them up any more than they already are.

I think you two are getting all worked up for nothing, it's just a name. I cant ell you right now that this is going to evolve into an argument.

If you guys both have to have the name, then the race begins. I feel like modifying Bloodgulch right now, uploading it and calling it Requiem. What would you two do then?

Same, this is just stupid guys. Just name it Requiem: _______. I think it's the best way out. Stop being selfish and just... just stop it.

Ya, I won't do that though because I'm not a jerk. But still, this is just silly.

Pretty much what he said in his wall of text. :\

Dude your paper just hit 6 pages double-spaced.
Edited by Dwood on Apr 10, 2011 at 02:09 AM

Hahahaha

This is possibly the funniest thread ever on Halomaps. The only thing that could make this more entertaining for me is if we found out Sel and Gonzo were the same person. :P

Haha that would make it pretty funny. Except that Sel would never make a remake of a bad map unless it was his.

i just had the most amazing idea ever! both map makers get to keep their map name (kinda), both maps increase their grandeur and everyone, including the community, beneifts.
however, this will require maturity from both parties previously unseen or unheard of, on these forums.

ok, so, both mapmakers are completely different, one's more interior, the other's more exterior.
i say combine them both.
gonzo will have his epic giant sized map with sweet, detailed n sexy bases (sel's requiem), which gonzo has already said that he loves in between rants. and sel also keeps his map, separately from gonzo's map and calls it 'Requiem: intense', cause its a smaller, intense map.
Both maps get released separately. gonzo gets to keep his map name. sel enjoys the fact that he has made a major contribution to another high quality map and the thought that he didnt spend all this time making one map, but his work has developed into more!
this is of course unless gonzo has already done his bases. as far as i know hes still working on the outside.


like i said before, for sel n gonz to put their differences aside and to collaborate will take a level of maturity that i just dont think is attainable, but i hope im proven wrong. for sel to hand over his hard work and for gonz to accept someone elses work into his own is almost as equally difficult. but it would be amazing and im sure most of those who frequent these forums would agree its a great idea. and if this kind of collaboration happened more often, ce maps would evolve and be of a higher quality than ever and we wouldnt have 20 different br tags, halo 3 huds, pelicans, armour etc, anyway

how about those doors sel?

Edited by Ubergoober on Apr 10, 2011 at 06:14 AM

Knock knock, anyone home? No? Shut up already unless you have intelligent comments. Good grief. I mean you're still convinced I'm making a remake of Extinction. If you're trying to prove you're a fool, then why don't you also ignore other things I've said, like how I've put a lot of thought into my map, and just say I slopped a bunch of incoherent faces together? That way, we can know once and for all that your intelligence, if it exists, is not applied to these forums. In all honesty, however, I do find your idiocy amusing.

By the way, I AM SeL. Mwuhuhahaha. Wait, no. That wouldn't be possible. I'm not capable of being such a cocky jerk, at least not on a forum. You all turned this into something bigger than it needed to be. All I wanted to know was who got the name. SeL and his moronic supporters brought up quality and one of them confused seniority with popularity. Good God people. Oversensitive enough? I'm going to continue running with the name unless/until other conditions require a name change.

Who here actually care's if he uses your map name? Honestly, you're the only person really complaining alot.

I love you Gonzo :3

also ahhaha anyone who thinks I intentionally took it, let me set your fears aside. Would I intentionally associate myself with a bad extinction remake?? (the answer is no btw!)



From what I recall if you can see someone through a glass surface in halo, the crosshair will go red, though the interiors aren't full receded in your pictures, they don't actually have any collision, so they shouldn't matter at all. As for being able to shoot through them, I have seen that, but only just before opening, and shortly after closing. This is probably just because halo has terrible netcode, so idk what I can do about it.
Edited by SeL on Apr 10, 2011 at 09:07 AM

gonzo i dont know if you realise but you're being really rude and unreasonable. are you still even working on your map? you havent posted in your own thread since the 23rd of march. dont listen to people when they say you're making a bad re-make of a bad map or whatever, they're just trying to wind you up. just go and do your thing, you have a lot of support for your map.
but dont come into this thread writing essays of rubbish, its ridiculous.

You guys need to shut it. Whoever releases their map first gets the name, I don't wanna take sides but I disagree with SeL's decision to name his map Requiem, and his prejudice against another person's work simply because they are not as experienced. It's not like Gonzo's Requiem is that much of a terrible map, from what I've seen in his thread he's put enough EFFORT (not neccesarily skill) into it to make it worthy of another mapmaker's notice and care. Though I do admit Gonzo is overeacting a bit. Now go attack me if you want, I'm outta this thread.

Can you get your facts straight please.

I don't care how experienced he is, he is remaking a map that sucked, and his map will suck just as much because it's a giant 5 km box. His level of experience has nothing to do with it.

Also gee I'm sorry that I don't actually read every thread in this forum before posting here myself!

I believe i was the person who informed Selentic about Gonzo's map.
He genuinely seemed to be unaware of it before that.
Edited by Maniac1000 on Apr 10, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Holy crap SeL. You continue to bring yourself lower. You just don't understand that my map is not a remake of any other map. Just because it took inspiration from Extinction doesn't mean it's a remake.

I suppose I am overreacting, but I just wanted to fix this name issue before it created problems later on. How silly of me to think someone would be reasonable enough to do the same. Do whatever the heck your arrogant, intolerant self wants. Not like anyone could convince you otherwise. I'm unsubscribing from this thread.

ok

I am glad we resolved the name issue. :]

hahaahah

i still thought my earlier idea was better.

hint: put them through a translator

Well.....Now that i've read through every single comment through here, and my god some of you are hellishly unreasonable....Regardless

The Map itself seems to be good in design, that must be admitted. I'm not all too sure about gameplay as i have not downloaded it and played it as of yet, but i'll get to it.

Though i know this has a high chance of mixing in with the trolling, i'll still say it: Requiem doesnt really seem to be a befitting name to your map Sel. I've played Revelations for a decent amount of time and i know that it's an amazing map and the name fits perfectly. However, for something like this, you would expect something more war torn, not shiny and forerunner (Though i love the modeling detail that i've seen).

As for Gonzo and his thing, If you DO read this, just go ahead make your map and do whatever. If Sel wont be Mature about it, then you do it. Same for you Sel, if you cant find him to be mature about it, just ignore it and continue work, dont even bother.

Overall Comments: Love the Map design, looking foward for a final release and etc. Thread could do with less trolling. Kthnxbai

I laughed but for the reason that people actually subscribe to threads. Just what I want is 10000000000000000000 emails from halomaps.

Lol same reason.
Now that I'm here again I might as well tell SeL to stop being prejudiced, not only because Gonzo is less experienced, but for his choice of map. I find it extremely rude to just go "oh it's inspired by a bad map therefore I won't care if I steal its name". True, I will probably like your version better, and dislike his, but I still disapprove with your actions on this topic. As I said before, he's used a reasonable amount of effort in the map, it doesn't matter if none of the respectable people will play it, he actually used time to make it, and I think for that you should at least have some consideration about taking his name and blatantly refusing to change it even after you've been told.
Now I'm out unless I find another person who was subscribed to anything.

Whoever gets the map done first wins. That's all that matters.

I never intended to join this discussion, but your response is too damn arrogant.

Okay, say you start making a map with a name, then I decide to make (or most likely mod) one with the exact same name, complete it, and submit it to HaloMaps. With all your hard work and dedication, wouldn't YOU be a little miffed that I come swooping in to claim the name? Add to the fact that I would be acting the same way as SeL (arrogant and intolerant of someone elses work), I would have to say you might be a bit pissed off.

Next, you start harrassing me for jacking the name you intended to give your map, and I pull what YOU said from my ass: "Whoever gets the map done first wins. That's all that matters."

Think about it. Even if this event never happens, think about it. Every action leads to an equal and opposite REaction.

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With that said and done, I do have to say that the work you've done here SeL, is fantastic. The name Requiem for such a clean-looking Forerunner installation doesn't suit it. Possibly come up with something like Archaeon (<- take that if you want) or something scientific to better fit the map.

Yeah I said that. I find it does matter how SeL completely disregards and discriminates against Gonzo because of the type of map he chose.

HOW DARE SOMEONE WHOSE OPINION MATTERS DISLIKE SOMETHING I LIKE

I BETTER ADD TWO AND A HALF PAGES TO THIS THREAD ON THE TOPIC OF IT LOL

There's no arrogance in saying whoever gets the maps done first wins. If you want the name then you complete your map before selentic.



It doesn't change the fact of the situation that whoever gets it done first, wins.
Edited by Dwood on Apr 10, 2011 at 09:30 PM

I dislike you both, and Gonzo's map. Get your facts right.

I cannot think of a single box map that had good gameplay value. To be perfectly honest, Gonzo's map will only serve as eyecandy. Chances are, it will be a terrible sniperfest with unbalanced vehicles.

I'm not trying to put his hard work down, but maps like Extinction and Hugeass just don't work in this game.

That's nice.

Good thing your opinion doesn't matter.

ok

gl with your map release pablo :)