I'm from Australia so I get about 200-300 ping from American servers, which is why I no longer play Halo.

The map looks incredible, but I do object to the name.
By the way do the doors actually open/close? Doesn't that cause syncing issues?

.device_machines that are controlled by switches do not sync. Ones that don't use switches do sync. I think.

My answer probably would have been different if what you were making looked anything like a map that has the potential to play well, and not something doomed to be incredibly popular among the bad players who play the maps like it (read most of the ce community).



hi simmy poo



It probably would have helped a lot if I was able to get a time out of my moda bros earlier than 4 hours before the test.

As for the doors, automatic doors are controlled by player proximity, player positions are tracked by the server, and relayed to clients, therefore players will be in the position to activate them both server and clientside.



Probably closer to 10am-12pm, but yeah, I'll make sure we get a time out atleast a day before this time.
Edited by SeL on Apr 9, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Dennis would argue this, but with a loose interpretation of synchronizing, you're basically right.

ur cute

Seriously Gonzo? Are you still crying about this?

Whoever gets their map done first, wins.

Yes. That is precisely it. I am sobbing uncontrollably...oh wait....no I'm not. Go grow up already. It's a name for a map. People like you turn it into something bigger than it is.

... ... Wait have I been arguing about a map name?

Requiem, by Alberto Ramires, will be released tomorrow.
Edited by Alberto on Apr 9, 2011 at 04:29 PM

gl with ur release.

Yup.

You haven't been arguing directly about the name itself, but don't seem to understand why I'm trying to do the polite thing here and actually resolve this instead of just saying 'Hey SeL, F you, I'm taking Requiem I don't give a d*** about your gay map you trollnoobflamerlolololololol'

That is from your thread.

Point #1: it's your first map, selentic has made numerous other maps, hes more experienced. Ever heard of seniority?

Point #2: Shat on steriods is still going to taste like shat. Extinction deserves to be laid to rest. You've apparently gone away from your original concept anyway.

Point #3: Whining and crying like a 5 year old isn't going to add many brownie points on your halomaps record. You're going to be remembered as the little prick who tried to argue with one of halomaps finer map makers.

Point #4 Selentic is completely right about your map. All you have to do is rename your ______.scenario file to say barnie's_play_mansion, run it through tool, and you got barnie's_play_mansion.MAP. It aint that hard, so deal with it.

Point #5 No offence, but Selentics map is of better quality than yours, by quality rights, i'd say he gets to choose what to call his better map.

Point #6 This is HIS thread, not yours. Unless you got constructive criticism, get out, because you aren't adding much to this thread at all.

No - I think Selentic is being an jerk. Regardless of your quality or experience, you KNEW there was a map being made, and decided to name your map the same name and then posted your rude opinion about his work.

How about I punk you both? I can release a map today with that name. (ooops someone already beat me to it - there is a map in the queue with that name).

Think of it this way, when Yoyo was making his map, and hadn't yet released it what is someone else decided to name their bloodgulch mod "Yoyorast?"

As you have pointed out, changing the scenario name will be easy. Quality or seniority have nothing to do with courtesy as you have proven here. Want respect? Show some.

Stealin my ideas. Not cool bro.

wrong

I had no knowledge of the map until someone mentioned it here. Also if you guys really think being cute and releasing a bad map just to spite me by using the name is going to bother me, you'd be wrong lol.

Actually, it's not the first time anyone's pulled that on me either, last time was with sympathy, and iirc Dennis blocked it because of that~
Edited by SeL on Apr 9, 2011 at 07:13 PM

Such elegant poetry. What he said is what I was saying, but I suppose the words I chose led to different interpretations. The fact that some of you seem to think I'm throwing a temper tantrum because I chose to fight for the name for my map politely instead of just ignoring SeL leads me to believe that you 1) aren't paying attention to anything but your own contorted views, and 2) that no amount of discussion will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, seniority, huh? You mean that interesting social trait that arises when people become familiar and friendly with an individual, then as time progresses, begin siding with said individual, and fighting for what he wants? Yeah, that's not seniority. It's popularity. And it has no correlation to whose map should get the name. SeL may be more experienced, and I recognize he has seniority over me because of his experience, but that doesn't mean I'm evil for defending my desire to keep my map named as is.

My map is no longer shat on steroids. For the last time, people, stop using that in your arguments. I'm unclear as to what part of 'Requiem is no longer a rip, copy, or remake of Extinction' you are misunderstanding. It started out as a plan to overhaul the Extinction concept; nothing more.

Again, I'm not whining. Say again: I am not whining. If I need to repeat it for you a third time, then all hope is lost for you. I chose to confront this issues. What if SeL releases his Requiem, and I release mine, with neither of us giving thought to each other's work. Would you not say that is disrespectful and rude, on both of our parts? Thus, I have brought this up now, instead of ignoring it, as SeL has done.

Newbkilla, how about you go back and read my response to SeL before saying all I have to do is rename my scenario file? You might learn something, and can avoid coming off as a fool who is making inaccurate/incomplete assertions.

Sel's map is of higher quality to you. In my opinion, my map is better than his. SeL will feel the same way (about his map). You can't use personal opinion as a concrete base for determining who has rights to the map name.

Want some criticism? Here it is:

I was impressed with the design. It is apparent that a lot of thought went into designing a close-quarters map of a sophisticated Forerunner design. Many aspects are in keeping with Bungie's precedences, and in some ways, SeL's works surpasses them. However, I do have my own complaints (if you will):

• The use of lights is heavily overdone. I don't think you need nearly that many.


• The use of the metal panels generator bitmap is also overdone. In my opinion, there are too many lights and light strips to look at, and it detracts from the opaque quality of the design and mapping.


• Not a complaint, but those doors are freaking awesome. I saw talk of them earlier in the thread. Did you make them yourself, or did somebody else design them?


• I tend to agree that Forerunners tend to stick to angular surfaces and construction, instead of circular designs. As such, in my opinion, I would remove some of the circular elements, either entirely, or replace them with faceted designs.


• Those weird circular sink-ins underneath the teleporters are...interesting. I think they should either have more surface detail, or should extend deeper into the map, so the players cannot see the bottom. As it is now, they just look like a dumb way to add something else to look at (no offense).


• There are some mapping fails (the term I apply to any face that has distorted mapping, or none at all) throughout your map, but I suppose you already know that, as you released an alpha.


• I was going to add comments about the sky and visibility of some geometry, but I'll hold until you release a portalled version with a sky.


• The 'levitating' (map is apparently suspended at altitude) concept is certainly new when associated with a map of this quality, but I don't think parts your map work well with that concept, namely the corridor that encircles the map at its farthest edge.

Oh, and you say you had no knowledge of my map's massive thread at the time you started yours? A search of the forums would have easily revealed it. I searched the forums and the download index before committing to Requiem. On top of that, the fact that you did nothing after hearing about it strikes me as discourteous. You marched on as if you had automatic rights to the name. I'm not saying I do either, but some clarification on your part would have been nice.

The 3 page double spaced paper on the subject of whether or not he's allowed to use the name Requiem says otherwise.

Some people...you just keep on calling it that. As I said in that '3 page, double spaced report', if I have to explain it a third time for you, then all hope is lost for you. I refuse to defend myself to people who are too intolerant of opposing viewpoints.

How bout you both use a different name so there's no arguing?

I'm not taking sides, but I will agree that it was kinda of a d**k move for Sel to take the name requiem when Gonzo was using it for many months before this thread started.

Isn't it first come first serve? So whoever releases their map first wins...

If you wanna go by that rule then Gonzo get's it, cuz he started his map first.

Nobody knows when someone uploads a map, but when Dennis uploads it, btw.

Guys it just a map name, who cares? You could call it octopus or banana or something, it won't affect the game play.

Whoever's done first wins. That's all that matters. If Gonzo wants the name he should finish his map and put it up.

I came in here expecting to see more progress on the Extinction remake. Ugh...wut?

^ Classic mixup =P

and you found a good map instead

*SHOCKER*

Harsh?

This argument is annoying. Can't everyone be equal here and respect each other and not think one is more superior because of their join date?

Idc about your join date, i care about the quality of your work and if you release it or not.

what

whose talking about join dates :s

When is the next play session and/or does anyone have a server up right now?

Idk, someone was complaining about it in earlier posts.

How modest of you. And of course you continue to make your immature remarks.

Honestly, I don't get why there is such a big fuss. Gonzo has had the idea public first, end of story. His Requiem thread is proof of that.
Also, I don't see why you both are obsessed over the name 'Requiem'... It doesn't even fit your map very well, Sel... might I suggest another name, such as 'Elevation', or 'Leviathan', or etc. Requiem just doesn't feel right for your map. It seems like a name for a more large-scale battle type of environment, such as something like Extinction (though a more suited name would be shat on the floor.)
But who cares what I think, I'm just a lurker...

Sometimes it seems like you took the name requiem just to piss Gonzo off. I doubt it, but still.