youre only making this to be popular??? :\

Wow antiblood. Read slappy's post again.

please dont do 2 versions

Lol. The term Alpha comes from the Greek alphabet in witch case alpha is the top dog. Meaning that a beta is second and alpha is the finished product. So if this is before beta then it wouldn't be alpha and if it's the first release then it would be omega, because thats the lowest. so could we just call this the test version or something? :)
Edited by grunt_eater on Apr 13, 2011 at 08:04 PM

he means it as in Alpha, which is A, which comes BEFORE/EARLIER than B (beta)

I'm sorry, what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle



Go search more information before you post.

Oh so we're counting down. From alpha to omega rather then the other way around. like A to Z instead of Z to A, Z being the lowest and it goes up as you progress?

Dude, alpha versions come before beta versions. Qwerty mentioned that since this is the first build to be tested, and that a lot of the looks are not up to par, that we should call it an alpha. Beta sounds more like pre-release bug testing... and the map isn't exactly there yet.

Actually grunt eater, since you play games, I thought everyone would know that all software, including games go from alpha to zulu.

hmmm,i have just read through this entire thread.
the thread states that this is slappythepirates thread/map right?
or is this XlzQwerty1 and slappythepirates thread/map?

call it whatever you want i frankly don't care lets just get back on topic

No one ever said this was my thread, nor "Slappy+Me" 's thread. I simply work for him, more of a partner really.

No one cares. Qwerty does more than you think, and so do many others.
You wouldn't believe what's going on behind the scenes here, so don't act like you know what's up.

okay just wondered why it seems to be you that controls what and who should post here.


anyway i love this map{no homo} and the work that's being done,i would however really like to see the work being shown here,being put into a custom map next time and not a copy of a map that is already avalible if i just loadup halo3.

what's with you jesse?

To be perfectly honest, I was a bit harsh, but it's just that it seemed to me that you were assuming a bit too much, especially when you consider what I already know. My point was that Qwerty helps Slappy quite a bit it, and I think it's fine if Qwerty fills in some of the updates because we all know that Slappy isn't always around.

Let's not get too sidetracked about who does and says what. What's important now, update-wise, is the tag content for the upcoming tests and the organization of the upcoming test. Feel free to discuss that.

Picture update time.

^ Antennae mast, case and turret case

^Detail objects WIP

^Vehicle spawns. Dunno why I didn't take this shot from the rear of the base.
EDIT: Duped a pic
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Apr 13, 2011 at 09:48 PM

quote/Let's not get too sidetracked about who does and says what.

true dat^

we having zip lines incorporated into ce slappy?
i'm joking but,still would be pretty cool down them lines i see

On a side note, I think the glass looks kinda weird on the base and I don't recall a flag base or whatever being on the base unless its CTF/Assault.

EDIT: Lul, zip lines. Guess that's sapien for you, big black-lined boxes.
Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Apr 13, 2011 at 09:56 PM

hahaha damn sapien,come on get some zip lines going.
damn if i could animate i would try to do it for my own map.

Do you have a turret at all, Slappy? I could send one right now, but it's not really the best although it will do for an alpha.

I do have a turret, but it spins all the way around. Does yours have a limit/bounds?
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Apr 13, 2011 at 10:31 PM

woah slappy, u brought the sexiness! it looks awesome. i like the grass/ tree saplings, looks great! the hard work that u, and those who have helped u, have done, has paid off, congrats! im available for testing if u need me, itd b my pleasure. pm me.

not shiny

Um, Slappy, if the turret can spin all the way around couldn't you just change the looking pitch or whatever in the vehicle tag?

Camera tracks. Tricky business, although he can probably use the h1 warthog passenger camera (on third person).

@Slappy, I think you should let me handle the BSP screenshots from now on :s
Edited by jesse on Apr 13, 2011 at 11:38 PM

No in the vehicle tag you can scroll down to seats and you'll see pitch range. If you want it to only be able to look side to side then make it -50 to 90. I'm taking this striate from the warthog passenger seat. So i'd do this instead of the camera tracks. Or maybe you would have to do the camera track two...In witch case i would just use the warthog passenger

Ah. Ok. Well good luck with the alpha then bro! Looking great so far and I can't wait for this to come out. I expect many pics and videos from you after you guys do the alpha btw.

just be sure to post a vid of the beta so we can spot things (for the ppl who wont be receiving the test version)

slappy, i know a lot of race enthusiasts here in aus, ur map gonna support race? if it does id like to have some input into where the nav points go. i too love a good race map, seems like a lot of map makers either dont support it in their maps or they put the navs in stupid places or dont utilise the whole map, such a shame, race can b a lot of fun.

also, i cant see it in the pic, nor do i remember u mentioning it, but will u have the side man-cannons?
Edited by Ubergoober on Apr 14, 2011 at 01:45 AM

I think he showed a side one in a vid when he showed the animation.

Most likely Slappeh will make the map compatible with most gametypes.

@Slappy, I don't really like the lightmaps, the environment shaders all look bland. Maybe you should use 3ds max to do them or something?
Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Apr 14, 2011 at 07:54 AM

I'm afraid I must agree with this^ :/

I agree, do you have settings on low and specular off?
My offer to help with the shaders still stands.

With this alpha test I'll recieve nothing but criticism on the bsp, and how it's not exactly halo 3.
People who have never modeled before saying that they think a rock is too low or how the blends are in the wrong spots, how the bases aren't extremely detailed, or how I forgot the details from the river or certain ledges. People who have modeled before will be criticizing my overall modeling technique, and how I should do things like start over or use Poly more.
But most of all, people will continue to judge the map by its shaders, something that I haven't been able to get right for seventeen pages.
It's not shiny enough from the right angles because it cannot be. This is not halo 3's engine.
I have been reluctant to give anyone the bsp in full for very good reasons, but I can't trust anyone anymore with this test.
I think I might as well be giving the bsp to ONE other person, to have any and all texture work done to the best of this map's potential. That means source files, keeping in mind the fact that several people will have the structure bsp as a result of this gameplay mechanic Alpha test.

Pics are from sapien.
Map already supports race.
Blandness might be because of sapien. If not, then I can't help the fact that the shaders or lightmaps suck.

Question that might make the map less "bland". Do you have a fog pallet on the map. like if you added the bloodgulch sky (clear afternoon) Then it has a fog effect on it and some of the other sky's don't. I'll do more research on this but i am sure if you added the clear afternoon sky then it has a fog on it that is making it look blurred from farther away