That may possibly be a problem needed to be fixed.
Also, the water seems a bit dark, with bright edges. Maybe increase the fog properties to as much as it can get to, and lower the color values.

See, that's the weird thing about the fog and water plane. I can't seem to get those bright edges worked out. I think I should try making the water dark and the fog blue, instead of the fog dark and the water blue.
What I meant by the flag/oddball analogy is that is "must be readied". To clear up any confusion, I should be testing this ingame.

but what i'm saying is, can you still switch weapons and pick up ammo?

Yep, the dullness of the reflection is bothering me.

Yeaaaaahno. Halo 3's shaders can't be entirely replicated. The graphics there are newer.
I can't experiment in shaders for my life, and I don't even have a Valhalla cubemap. If anyone wants them to look better, they would have to do it.
Contact me. Note that I'm not sharing the entire bsp, just shaders.

I haz a question. Will you be doing anything as far as cattails, hanging vines, grass, etc in the map? Just a few of those touches here and there could make this map go from epic looking to OMFG it's Valhalla!!!

Detail objects would be idea for that kind of stuff. I actually haven't made detail objects before, but there's a tutorial for that.
I hope to get environment stuff like that done. Along with all these bsp updates.

I could help with the shaders and the color values, lol, just copy the values from halo 3. We would need newer cubemaps though, and halo 3 stores like more than 6 cubemaps into one bitmap. Choose the ones we would need the most.

I might need the forerunner base part of the bsp to test.
Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Mar 27, 2011 at 10:34 AM

imo, the metal shaders need to be like 15-25% darker, seems too light for Valhalla.

imo, it also looks like it's supposed to be polished. but i'm not seeing any reflections, just something i see :/

EDIT: second picture from the top. i can see a reflection on the wall to the right almost about to be cut off by the pictures edges, thats what i think the entire base should shine like
Edited by grunt_eater on Mar 27, 2011 at 12:57 PM

I can make your cubemaps if you are going to need them.

That would be very helpful, asl long as it makes a bright-white shine.

Could you? That would be much appreciated.

Yea, i will be gone for a few hrs but will get a couple done tonight.
Maybe talk to me on xfire and let me know exactly what you are looking for.

so you are going to make the bases shine :D, one more thing (that may not be able to be fixed idk?) in one of the pics the base looks like both sides at the bottom are buried the same amount, this looks...unrealistic, to me :P

first off the progress on your map is brilliant.
just a suggestion aswell,the bottom edges of your bases,i think it would look more realistic
if you added a slightly mossed texture to them edges,i say this becase they are imbeded in grass/mossed ground,over time the moss from the ground would start to affect the stone of your bases.
just for age/looks really but well just a thought.

I don't know how going about putting worn edges would work out UVW-wise. I could do it with a seamseal over the metal faces on the edge, maybe.

i get what your saying there,worn edges could be a little tricking using uvw.
seamseal? i have to admit i have no idea what that is but hey if you think that would work,
then it might be worth a shot.

wouldn't it just be easier to edit the bitmap? add a bit of greenery around the edges in that?


EDIT: new page i win :D
Edited by grunt_eater on Mar 27, 2011 at 05:53 PM

yes that is the general idea,but it would mean having to divide polys so that the new edited bitmap could be applied.

You can use alpha decals to add that kind of thing, if you are stuck with tiling textures that can not be edited to work the way you want.
I have a couple cubes made, but i am not sure if it is the way you want.

oh right. i never thought of tiling :/, that would be a problem

I don't see any moss here:


EDIT: Yeah, slappy, forget what I said about the water, actually turn the fog down instead of up, its paler and does not reach the edges, also make the water brighter in color.
Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Mar 27, 2011 at 07:16 PM

AAAHHAA!, see where the banshee is parked. it's shiny. and more here and there out of the shadows

looking even better!
@XlzQwerty1:
moss is a natural occurrence where grass meets water.
was for the aged look no biggy :)

um, thats a screen shot from halo 3, not the actual map, at least i thought it was
Edited by grunt_eater on Mar 27, 2011 at 08:20 PM

well don't feel so bad i'm not gonna lie and say i didn't think it was the map with some awesome fixes.

Now that I think about it, the trees could have a bit lighter bark.

Yeah, er, here's the new update pic. Yeah, I've, uh, upped the poly count quite a bit, as you can see right here.
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Mar 27, 2011 at 10:48 PM

lol

very good slappy,very good
edit: trees need more pine.
Edited by ally on Mar 27, 2011 at 11:03 PM

If someone gets me the retail texture, I'll model and unwrap the warthog palet (or whatever it's called)

dude, u can extract it from halo 3 lol

Don't worry, the palette is finished. It's just a scenery without collision.

lol k, i'll help u shadering, hey, did u finish the spartan jms?

No. Still separating all the armors.
And the hands aren't right. I'll fix that as well.
EDIT: I also need to know which of those shoulders had lights. Your materials were all set to arch+design and causeing exporting problems, so I had to remake the multi material from scratch (all 27 sub-materials).
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Mar 28, 2011 at 03:54 PM