Now, now, we all already knew that Grunts can be a dick and at most times he is but come on. Did you guys have to start this on a thread?

yes ok but you should replace 'can be' with is

i lol'd very much.

Grunts is right in every way anyway, and besides, you just got angry because he wanted to see what he'd be giving his DMR too, but you didn't / can't, so you just got a bit grumpy.

I have something in store for you your gonna be pissed at >:D you'll see in time

Yo, okay, come on. All I'm saying is, if there are perfecly good models, why not use them? AR, DMR, Shotgun and Grenade Launcher are all perfectly acceptable.

LMAO! Loved the convo :D

LOL CHEDDARS
you forgot to mention that im your partner in this FRMT thing and I'm pulling weight too (already animating the AR)

The reason that there are 3 similar teams with similar goals and memebrs is because we found each other, knew this was the case and worked together. Grunts, stfu. You asked for, what, 4 maps which you could release as your own in exchange for ONE DMR MODEL? Cheddars didn't beg, he was asking nicely.

As I explained, why make new stuff when what's already there is good? The only reason to do this is if there are selfish prats like you.

Also, durr, it's not all Reach. The 3 teams work on Flood, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Reach and completely custom Halo 4 stuff, so I would shut up if I were you.

You people do not understand how ASP Grunts is twisting things.

Seriously, I thought I was done with these pathetic arguments on this thread. Halomaps is really downhill. Maybe I'll consider defecting to modacity if this continues. Or maybe just continue on my site.
Edited by Petera275 on May 21, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Loving the hypocrisy.
Selfish prats?
Really you just accused someone of being selfish because they won't turn over something you want on a silver platter?

No, I accused someone of being selfish because they insult needlessly, and wanted 4 maps to release as their own in exchange for one model. That is not only selfish, but greedy.

Again, do not get involved in what you do not understand. That, or learn to read properly.

I understand it entirely.
I've read the conversation through and through.
You accused him of being selfish because he wouldn't hand you something on a platter for the taking.
Your entire team is practically a joke with very little being made by yourselves, instead you simply take what you want and when you don't get your own way you throw the toys out the pram.
I'm sure both Dennis and hunter would agree with me on that.
The more time I spent here the more I'm wondering why Dennis hasn't just done a massive purge of users and cleaned the slate.
I imagine that would be a massive overhaul but at the same time it would give the message that childish antics are not tolerated.

Good thing we aren't Halo Reach Mapping Teams, really.

Who are you referring to?

Where the hell did you get "release 4 maps as their own in exchange for one model". I was watching you retard. He only asked to see the bsp for PROOF that the team was doing something. Thing is, you and cheddars refused to show him much all except for boneyard (which you didn't even make.) Some team, eh? You expected him to give you the DMR for something he couldn't even get RENDERS of..

Indeed, I realise my mapping team is far from accomplished, and I also realise that I still have little, if any, skill with modelling. That is why I have attempted to get this public, so I can have support. This is just a little fun, a little hobby for me before exams. I have no desire for greatness. Your attempted insults are, in fact, correct. However, in my opinion, your using 4 years experience as a way to show you as high and mighty is quite unnecessary and irrelevant. If I wasted 4 years of my life on a modding website I'm sure I'd be just as bitter as you, however.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. I cannot produce a model of your standards, nor will my mapping team ever be a big success. Have a nice day. I do however advise that you rethink your life before you post again. Go outside. I'm sure it's a nice sunny day.



He wished to have proof of progress, yes. But also possession of completely custom bsps which he could use as his own in exchange for the DMR model, which was out of the question.
Also, why would he need renders of something that was already in a worldwide published videogame? All he needed was google images, or, if he was that desparate, to look at my website. XD

Also, I find this both amusing and relevant to the topic at hand:


Edited by Petera275 on May 21, 2011 at 11:36 AM

Because I already told you it was H2MT's Boneyard, the first version of which was already available on halomaps at the time. The logic was that you trusted an accomplished team.

What's funny is that you didn't even realize what I meant. He HAS Halo Reach, he knows how the map looks like too. The renders were to show PROOF that you HAVE some progress in what your recreating from that game. So that he doesn't just give you the DMR model and get a render of a box with a crack in the middle. And the POA or something in the middle of it.

But he knew, because I already told him about this:

http://h2v.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=2378

And I released this:

http://reachcustomedition.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=111475476
http://reachcustomedition.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=110053321
http://reachcustomedition.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=110053322

I mean, I even went to sort things out with him just now:

Petera275_HRCEMT: Sup grunts
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: sup
Petera275_HRCEMT: THIS
Petera275_HRCEMT: http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=35431&start=1191
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: umad?
Petera275_HRCEMT: Naw
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: calm ur ass down
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: keep it on the forums
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: not on xfire lol
Petera275_HRCEMT: This way I can get instant contact and therefore explain any doubts you have in a short period
Petera275_HRCEMT: So that you do not make deluded assumptions
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: idc about ur team
Petera275_HRCEMT: I know.
Petera275_HRCEMT: I care not for you, either.
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: then stop trying to convince me ur "important"
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: or that ur team is "important"
Petera275_HRCEMT: I'm not
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: then stfu lol
Petera275_HRCEMT: I just admitted in the forum that I know that we suck......
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: u didnt stfu
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: so ur trying to convince me
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: cool
GRUNTS.yoko_shader: minimized

All he did was minimize, unwilling for me to reason with him. If that's not arrogant, I don't know what is.
Edited by Petera275 on May 21, 2011 at 11:58 AM

Funny thing is, those pictures were never there when you were talking to him.

Really? My bad. I did upload them as soon as I could. Also ASP Grunts, wow. Thanks for reading the rest of the 'convo' I had with myself.

Also, I have a couple of things in mind if you and Mendicant Bias don't start to be constructive and make deluded assumptions/state the obvious instead. Please don't waste my team's time.
Edited by Petera275 on May 21, 2011 at 12:14 PM

LOL, let me guess. You have found a way of getting his DMR? Well, GRUNT's let me and you make a new one, but better, if that's the case. AHA :P

Cheddars/Spartan 279 DMR pics:





Seriously dudes. Waste one more page of my thread and I will work on my project privately. Not only will you see even less, you will never get the final result, only those who I want to will. I will upload elsewhere.
Edited by Petera275 on May 21, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Very nice. Who's pistol is that? It's the best of the pics.

It's an updated version of this http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5700

I can't remember who it's by, but I don't believe their username was 'Moses'.

DMR looks pretty much right of Reach except for the numbers. great job.
Edited by Xoronatus on May 21, 2011 at 02:02 PM

Actually. They are possible in C.E. And quite easy as well. I am still trying to figure out animation stances. i still need a script that makes it so when you melee the camera goes into the dead state and afterwords it goes back. but i'll give you the basics and see if you can find any problems with it.

Step 1. Open a weapon tag and scroll down to melee and player melee response. open the pleyer melee response and scroll down to the damage. add 0.0001 to the damage upper and lower bound and add as much stun as possible make stun time as long as your animation is. this makes it so you cannot move when you melee and make contact with someone/something so your animation stance will be the only thing that allows you to move. i have already done this


step 2. Make your new assassination animation and replace the old third person melee animation for this one.

Step 3. make your assassinated dieing animation and replace the old h killed back gut(or whatever it's called) for this one


Now you have assassination. The only problem i see with this is every time you melee and hit something it will do the assassination but not the entire damage. You could make it so every time you hit it's an instant kill like in COD. Or not. Your choice. But thats assassination any statements?

Those Reach weapons look pretty alright maybe



No. Also your method is horribly flawed in a number of ways that I'm not even going to begin to list.
Edited by SeanTheLawn on May 21, 2011 at 03:11 PM

I neither think it is easy or horribly flawed - it will only ever work in SP, and restrictions may need to be applied to the standard AI when assassinations are being performed. I dunno, I'm not really what you'd call an experienced scripter.

Also, sup Sean. What do YOU use to rip Half-Life 2 stuff? I still need to get Dr Kleiner's labcoat and glasses for my Dr Halsey model.

Edited by Petera275 on May 21, 2011 at 03:34 PM

I'll find the tutorial I originally used and edit this post with the link

Edit: Um... I can't find it. It was like 3 years ago so I have no idea where it was. This might be a good one though:

http://www.alienwarearena.com/articles/view/importing-half-life-2-models-to-3ds-max/

Edit 2: Also, his method is completely flawed. Give me a week. I'll have a method that doesn't suck.
Edited by SeanTheLawn on May 21, 2011 at 03:59 PM

You know that Priority Mail commercial? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZhjMxM_Giw

"If it fits, it ships"
Listen to the mailman, he knows game sandbox design really well. If it is integrated into gameplay well, keep it. If it doesn't work right, or detracts or unbalances gameplay, don't ship it. No matter how cool it is, if you can't figure out a way that works well, just leave it out. Don't force it. Lumoria had a lot custom stuff that fit well into the map, but they didn't over do it.

No. Because the damage from the melee will be done when you hit the button, rather then it waiting until the animation has been carried out, it will automatically kill them but the dieing animation will last for longer making the actual assassination






you won't begin to list them for no apparent reason just so that we have no way of making an assassination?. If it has problems then tell me and i'll come up with solutions but until you tell me i can't fix what you seem to think is horribly flawed

Those look terrible. Congrats you can't even make good content when there's 0 creativity required.

i thought the guns looked decent. Stop your b**ching about people's ideas and what they want to do and what they are doing.

Who exactly are you referring to as uncreative?

Oh I don't know, maybe the part where they're just copy and pasting from halo reach?

http://www.xfire.com/video/46b5f1/
fixed versions of them but dmr needs the yellow line