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also just a thought to help with scenery keller.

look at this tree http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3784

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also just a thought to help with scenery keller.

look at this tree http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3784

looks like the cliffhanger trees I'ev seen in SPV2

as far as I know, you cant make the sky, change depending on the portal, that you are in. But it is possible to make the sky change, depending on what BSP the player is currently in. :)

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The selected theme goes against everything this level was and should be. Not only does selecting a rainy environment obscure your view, it also detracts attention away from all these great things that really should be seen.

I... kinda see your point there. It's okay on the first half of the level (before the cave) since there arent many forerunner structures and you've just suffered the loss of the entire drop-pod's marines and need to explore around to "get to higher ground".
but later I think the original sky would be better....

Hey, is it possible to have it so when you enter cave it's still rainy, but when you exit the rain has cleared? That would be good.

also, maybe make the beginning Splaser exclusive to easy (put it somewhere else maybe, like 343)

It is true but like I said tags are limited and I don't have much to work with, and plus I'm unsure if I'll even release a final version, probably just leave the beta and let someone else finish it that can satisfy the needs of the general public

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does tags being limitted affect where you can put rain and whether or not you can put an extra splaser somewhere?

No, but I mean about the textures and such, all I have is the grass textures and I'll be removing the Spartan Laser as I do not plan on doing any other levels as this one appears to be a big fail as said by L0d3x and a few on Xfire

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.... k.

btw I'm fairly sure a player will have difficulty taking down 2 shees with the H3/SPv2 Pistol.
Oh wait, the new AR rules.

That's why I put the Spartan Laser there

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does tags being limitted affect where you can put rain and whether or not you can put an extra splaser somewhere?

Instead of removing it, you could put it somewhere else where the Laser is most needed. Or you could make it have less damage on things.

Anyway I played it and it wasn't bad, though here are the bugs I've seen so far (in Normal difficulty) :

One guass projectile can destroy a Dropship

Flashlight, when turned on, goes crazy and moves around the whole screen, and it also occasionally changes colour

Particles of the Dropship after destroying it appear boxy

Brutes are a little too overpowered

After killing an Elite in a Ghost, you cannot enter it

The Guass' reticule needs to be a tad more accurate, as its projectiles go beyond the aim

It'd be nice if you made a custom HUD instead of using CMT's.

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does tags being limitted affect where you can put rain and whether or not you can put an extra splaser somewhere?

One guass projectile can destroy a Dropship

Flashlight, when turned on, goes crazy and moves around the whole screen, and it also occasionally changes colour

Particles of the Dropship after destroying it appear boxy

Brutes are a little too overpowered

After killing an Elite in a Ghost, you cannot enter it

The Guass' reticule needs to be a tad more accurate, as its projectiles go beyond the aim

1. It's an anit-aircraft guass warthog
2. I dunno what is causing that
3. It's the textures CMT didn't properly apply alpha's
4. I plan to depower them
5. It in the script here is what does it (unit_set_enterable_by_player ghost_1 false )
5. That is not fixable by me as I dunno how to do error in projectiles and I'm not doing a new reticle too much work.

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as far as I know, you cant make the sky, change depending on the portal, that you are in. But it is possible to make the sky change, depending on what BSP the player is currently in. :)

Though I didn't elaborate, that is what I meant

Yeah, you would need another bsp anyway for lightmaps of the other sky and to stop the rain.

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Perhaps make the projectile slower, since it is a special type of a Guass Cannon? (to balance out the gameplay)

This map is great. Also do you have links to your other maps?

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Yeah, it worked now...OH I SEE BEFOREHAND I WAS JUST DOING A SHORTCUT >_>

Alright, gotta finish the grenade, make a freakin' proper idle, make some overlays, and then compile, shove into Magnum tags from map, .rar, upload, thread, release.

...I hope.

Edit: If you didn't see, I had edited my post with that origin and updated it with the retail skin as well as put in a sphere since someone asked me if it really was pointing well enough to the center

Edited by ODX on Apr 2, 2010 at 10:47 PM

could i have that FP model? pleaseeeeee?

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This map is great. Also do you have links to your other maps?

keyes and truth and reconciliation are both implayable as they always exception when you go into the cruisers

but b40 is really fun imo

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This map is great. Also do you have links to your other maps?

keyes and truth and reconciliation are both implayable as they always exception when you go into the cruisers

but b40 is really fun imo

They exception because of the brutes, I didn't notice it till I remade the a50 mod

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This map is great. Also do you have links to your other maps?

keyes and truth and reconciliation are both implayable as they always exception when you go into the cruisers

but b40 is really fun imo

They exception because of the brutes, I didn't notice it till I remade the a50 mod

speaking of which, you've got them working good now right, because I have a ton of brutes of all different ranks that work perfectly, so if you can't put a lot in because they don't work properly, ...yeah

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This map is great. Also do you have links to your other maps?

keyes and truth and reconciliation are both implayable as they always exception when you go into the cruisers

but b40 is really fun imo

They exception because of the brutes, I didn't notice it till I remade the a50 mod

It's because the map tries to spawn the elites with special animations but I replaced them with brutes so the game gets confused and can't play the animation causing it to hang up

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This map is great. Also do you have links to your other maps?

keyes and truth and reconciliation are both implayable as they always exception when you go into the cruisers

but b40 is really fun imo

They exception because of the brutes, I didn't notice it till I remade the a50 mod

It's because the map tries to spawn the elites with special animations but I replaced them with brutes so the game gets confused and can't play the animation causing it to hang up

is that why you had to create custom scripts?

btw, cant you just copy the scripts that spawn the original encounters and paste them with the new encounters?

No that would be impossible you'll need to make a new squad cause only one AI type is allowed per squad so unless the script spawns the whole encounter that won't work but if it does then yes
Edited by forrestkeller1 on Apr 3, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Are there going to be more dropships animated and scripted in? I think it would be cool if a dropship or maybe banshees flew over you, trying to kill you while you were in the first warthog you get in the level.

I tried to do that on some single player levels but my custom animations for the dropships (and pretty much everything) were extremely jumpy. It's like they teleported from frame 1-100, then back. Does anyone know how to solve this problem?

Edited by shadowce9 on Apr 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM

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Are there going to be more dropships animated and scripted in? I think it would be cool if a dropship or maybe banshees flew over you, trying to kill you while you were in the first warthog you get in the level.

I tried to do that on some single player levels but my custom animations for the dropships (and pretty much everything) were extremely jumpy. It's like they teleported from frame 1-100, then back. Does anyone know how to solve this problem?

Edited by shadowce9 on Apr 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Yes I have tried, but the custom animations is the problem, I can't animate worth crap so yeah

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Yes I have tried, but the custom animations is the problem, I can't animate worth crap so yeah

you could find an angle where if you use one of the original anims, it would make it to the ground

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could i have that FP model? pleaseeeeee?

I dunno, could you have it?

I suppose you could if I were to give it to you, but I'm sure you can find it elsewhere...

Edit: Screw it I'm feeling generous
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=4749

That one uses Hayabusa's crappy animations, and the skin is not very good. What you see on mine is still the Halo 3 Beta magnum, I just slapped on the retail skin and the normal because I can. No, you can't have those yet.
Edited by ODX on Apr 3, 2010 at 11:45 AM

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No that would be impossible you'll need to make a new squad cause only one AI type is allowed per squad so unless the script spawns the whole encounter that won't work but if it does then yes

No. Set each individual starting position to spawn a different actor if you so wish.

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could i have that FP model? pleaseeeeee?

I dunno, could you have it?

I suppose you could if I were to give it to you, but I'm sure you can find it elsewhere...

I highly doubt they would be elsewhere, I found some on haloceripper's blogspot but lost them so I'm currently looking for them again since the website got brought down

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No. Set each individual starting position to spawn a different actor if you so wish.

You're wrong that only works with mp, it's different in sp if you do that then it won't work the spawn will still be a elite or something
Edited by forrestkeller1 on Apr 3, 2010 at 11:46 AM

From my post above...wow you like, replied as soon as I made that post and then I edited this in while you were typing hehe.

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Edit: Screw it I'm feeling generous
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=4749

That one uses Hayabusa's crappy animations, and the skin is not very good. What you see on mine is still the Halo 3 Beta magnum, I just slapped on the retail skin and the normal because I can. No, you can't have those yet.
Edited by ODX on Apr 3, 2010 at 11:45 AM

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From my post above...wow you like, replied as soon as I made that post and then I edited this in while you were typing hehe.

I've used those already and generally I don't like them

I was just linking to the model, not suggesting you use that crap.

I'm uploading the animations right now (going to take an hour or so) as well as putting the animations in-game to check them out for myself. I'll do a little release of the animations with the model and tags and all that soon, and then later with some collaboration from Spartan_094 I'll see about uploading them to Halomaps with the retail assets.

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I was just linking to the model, not suggesting you use that crap.

I'm uploading the animations right now (going to take an hour or so) as well as putting the animations in-game to check them out for myself. I'll do a little release of the animations with the model and tags and all that soon, and then later with some collaboration from Spartan_094 I'll see about uploading them to Halomaps with the retail assets.

Alright

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No. Set each individual starting position to spawn a different actor if you so wish.

You're wrong that only works with mp, it's different in sp if you do that then it won't work the spawn will still be a elite or something

Hardly. I've made many SP maps in the course of the past two years, and changing the actor specified in the starting position has ALWAYS made a difference. How then, do you think I added weapon variance in my MP conversion for SP?

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No. Set each individual starting position to spawn a different actor if you so wish.

You're wrong that only works with mp, it's different in sp if you do that then it won't work the spawn will still be a elite or something

I've tried many times in the past on the original Campaign and they don't seem to work, and working with SP maps for over 5 years it seems alot better to add a different squad since it's more organized so I don't have to search through like a 100 squads and starting locations

I can ensure that they do indeed work. The original Campaign itself uses the starting position to change the actor. Check a30, which I believe you're modding. The encounter titled 'mid_rubble_2', which has a squad named 'jackal'. However, one of the starting positions contains an elite.

If it were to only work for MP, then why would Bungie add a box to change the starting position when they don't have any maps with AI in them?

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I can ensure that they do indeed work. The original Campaign itself uses the starting position to change the actor. Check a30, which I believe you're modding. The encounter titled 'mid_rubble_2', which has a squad named 'jackal'. However, one of the starting positions contains an elite.

If it were to only work for MP, then why would Bungie add a box to change the starting position when they don't have any maps with AI in them?

No idea but adding a separate squad is more organized really

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could i have that FP model? pleaseeeeee?

thanks u lots! i didn't need anything else!

Organized, perhaps, but for variance between AI, like if you have a squad devoted to grunts, you can't depend on the major variant to create grunts holding separate weapons. Unless you want to create a separate encounter for each and every type of actor minus those with major variants, it's best to use the starting position to change the AI's weapon.