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Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
Organized, perhaps, but for variance between AI, like if you have a squad devoted to grunts, you can't depend on the major variant to create grunts holding separate weapons. Unless you want to create a separate encounter for each and every type of actor minus those with major variants, it's best to use the starting position to change the AI's weapon.

Yes for changing there weapon but for adding a new actor_variant no

Quote: --- Original message by: forrestkeller1

Yes for changing there weapon but for adding a new actor_variant no

Encounter name: Bill Cosby

Squadsblock: brute
actor type: brute minor spiker actor varient
starting position ai type: birute minor spkier actor varient
squadsblock: geist
actor type: geist actor varient
starting positions ai type: geist actor varient

congrats you just made an encounter consisting of two ai that uses only 1 script
Edited by Delicon20 on Apr 3, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Then the script would be

(ai_place Bill_Cosby/brute )
(ai_place Bill_Cosby/geist )

Quote: --- Original message by: forrestkeller1
Then the script would be

(ai_place Bill_Cosby/brute )
(ai_place Bill_Cosby/geist )

then go do that

Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20

Quote: --- Original message by: forrestkeller1
Then the script would be

(ai_place Bill_Cosby/brute )
(ai_place Bill_Cosby/geist )

then go do that

I just did, before this thread was even made, this is what I mean

Quote:
(script dormant mission_lz
(sleep_until (or (volume_test_objects plant_trigger (players ))(volume_test_objects lz_bridge (players )))1 delay_dawdle )
(sleep_until (or (< 4 (ai_conversation_status intro_1 ))(volume_test_objects lz_bridge (players )))1 )
(ai_conversation lz_prompt_1 )
(sleep_until (or (< 4 (ai_conversation_status lz_prompt_1 ))(volume_test_objects lz_bridge (players )))1 )
(set mark_evade true )
(set play_music_a30_01 true )
(sleep_until (or (volume_test_objects plant_trigger (players ))(volume_test_objects lz_bridge (players )))1 )
(if (volume_test_objects plant_trigger (players ))(ai_conversation flavor_plant ))
(if (volume_test_objects plant_trigger (players ))(sleep_until (or (< 4 (ai_conversation_status flavor_plant ))(volume_test_objects lz_bridge (players )))1 ))
(wake mission_lz_dropship )
(sleep_until (or mark_lz_dropship (volume_test_objects lz_ledge_safe (players )))1 )
(wake mission_lz_banshee )
(sleep_until (or mark_lz_banshee (volume_test_objects lz_ledge (players )))1 )
(ai_migrate lz_search/cship_toon lz_search/search_low )
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects lz_pass (players ))1 )
(ai_place lz_search/pass_grunt )
(ai_place lz_search/pass_brute )
(ai_place lz_search/pass_elite )(objects_predict (ai_actors lz_search )))

Or if you're placing both squads at the same time, you could, you know, place just the encounter?

Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
Or if you're placing both squads at the same time, you could, you know, place just the encounter?

Well yes, but if you want them to be separate like spawn these at this time and wait for them to die then spawn the others
Edited by forrestkeller1 on Apr 3, 2010 at 01:23 PM

hmm. Scripts always coufuse me. But the map look great, it look fun to play and seeing how good I'll download when it comes out.

well since you know what your doing, ur map needs more vehicles imo, how about since the other side of the forrunner bridge underground is empty, you could add that big h2 vehicle from new mombassa (shadows, I think?) and have them patrolling the other side along with some brutes (see how I worked that in) and when you come out of the tunnel, have 3 or 4 jackals moving randomly near the entrance (shouldn't be hard, make the script sleep until the screen narrows and it says, i think its reunion tour or something like that.

Just do things like that, use things that are already in the map to make new things

also, could you put more plasma batteries and esplosive scenery in the map?that way, when ur like pinned down, you can shoot them and blow up the offending covies?
Edited by Delicon20 on Apr 3, 2010 at 01:30 PM

Quote: --- Original message by: RevolutionaryCaptain
hmm. Scripts always coufuse me. But the map look great, it look fun to play and seeing how good I'll download when it comes out.

Well a final may not be released but here is a more up-to-date beta version
http://www.mediafire.com/?q2ojhindnj1

Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20

well since you know what your doing, ur map needs more vehicles imo, how about since the other side of the forrunner bridge underground is empty, you could add that big h2 vehicle from new mombassa (shadows, I think?) and have them patrolling the other side along with some brutes (see how I worked that in) and when you come out of the tunnel, have 3 or 4 jackals moving randomly near the entrance (shouldn't be hard, make the script sleep until the screen narrows and it says, i think its reunion tour or something like that.

Just do things like that, use things that are already in the map to make new things
Edited by Delicon20 on Apr 3, 2010 at 01:29 PM

No, I can NOT add any more tags or else the total tag size will go into the negatives and the map will crash like crazy and make switching bsp's impossible, plus scripting in another scene is out of my league
Edited by forrestkeller1 on Apr 3, 2010 at 01:33 PM

Quote: --- Original message by: forrestkeller1

Quote: --- Original message by: RevolutionaryCaptain
hmm. Scripts always coufuse me. But the map look great, it look fun to play and seeing how good I'll download when it comes out.

Well a final may not be released but here is a more up-to-date beat version
http://www.mediafire.com/?q2ojhindnj1

No, I can NOT add any more tags or else the total tag size will go into the negatives and the map will crash like crazy and make switching bsp's impossible
Edited by forrestkeller1 on Apr 3, 2010 at 01:31 PM

then remove some trees and stuff from the map that you don't really need, like the h2 trees at the top of the bsp to make it look like a forest, all they do is block dropships

That still won't work, how many objects are in the map doesn't matter, it's how much tags I have in the map, like adding a new tree, actor, or weapon will make the total tag size go down

lol can i ask just how many tags you have in the map?

Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
lol can i ask just how many tags you have in the map?

Enough to blow your mind

lol. i just thought of over 9000

Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
lol. i just thought of over 9000

Lol. there's enough tags to make the map go over 300mb
Edited by forrestkeller1 on Apr 3, 2010 at 01:47 PM

holy crap...thats alot of tags. thats like, at least 75 tags...

Quote: --- Original message by: forrestkeller1
That still won't work, how many objects are in the map doesn't matter, it's how much tags I have in the map, like adding a new tree, actor, or weapon will make the total tag size go down

yeah but my point is, you don't need all that scenery, use only two or three tree scenery for the map, delete the rest, same with plants, the c storage, etc., etc. Use only what works best for cover, and strategy, try to make your tags go a long way, my cityscape freeroam map had so much scenery and so many encounters without going over the limit, that it lagged my horrible computer to the point where I had it just where I wanted it but didn't want to test it cuz of lagg.

Now if could do that, you should be able find a way to add more vehicles, ai, and strategic scenery too

I think if your using most spv2 weapons you should just slap in the cmt sniper as well. :X

First page, near the bottom:

Quote: --- Original message by: forrestkeller1
I might and I'm decided I will swap the CMT tagset with a Halo 3 tagset, I have the sniper, ar, and br but I lack all other weapons and a hud

Currently I still need to test the magnum for myself but since my brother is still on his computer I can't do crap about it.

Quote: --- Original message by: ODX
First page, near the bottom:

Quote: --- Original message by: forrestkeller1
I might and I'm decided I will swap the CMT tagset with a Halo 3 tagset, I have the sniper, ar, and br but I lack all other weapons and a hud

Currently I still need to test the magnum for myself but since my brother is still on his computer I can't do crap about it.

Ah, anyways an update on the map so far is I changed the lighting and stuff as you can see in my new dl link

Tested the magnum, hated the feel of it, currently fixing.

Quote: --- Original message by: ODX
Tested the magnum, hated the feel of it, currently fixing.

Alright

Quote: --- Original message by: IcePhoenix

Quote: --- Original message by: Tuaha
Anyway I played it and it wasn't bad, though here are the bugs I've seen so far (in Normal difficulty) :

One guass projectile can destroy a Dropship

I blew one up by firing at it with ghost for about 15 seconds. That's just ridiculous, even a wraith should last longer than that.

Flashlight, when turned on, goes crazy and moves around the whole screen, and it also occasionally changes colour

Particles of the Dropship after destroying it appear boxy

Yeah, and the area where the wreckage lands is really glitchy: there seem to be giant invisible chunks of wreckage scattered amongst the visible ones. Made me crash my ghost about 3 times.

Brutes are a little too overpowered

No they're not. They throw more nades. But they're slow and fat. Elites are way harder to hit and stick.

After killing an Elite in a Ghost, you cannot enter it

The Guass' reticule needs to be a tad more accurate, as its projectiles go beyond the aim

Do the projectiles home or anything? I noticed that some of the smoke trails seemed curved.

added my thoughts

Don't complain to me, CMT were the ones that made the tags so ask them
, but the reason you crash into invisible geometry is because when the dropship explodes the model you see before it blew up becomes invisible and is still collideable and that is what you're hitting
Edited by forrestkeller1 on Apr 4, 2010 at 03:39 AM

Quote: --- Original message by: IcePhoenix
... that sucks....
but can't you alter the dropship's HP or something?

I can remove it and make the dropship invincible again

its because the vehicle's team isnt set right. Cant remember which parameter it is, but the team should be set to 'covenant'. Which is also why the built-in gunners don't fire at you.

Quote: --- Original message by: IcePhoenix
what about the SPv1 dropships? oh wait, not the mortars again!

you can't alter soemthing's HP?

also, they appear as yellow blips...

I noticed the yellow blip it will be fixed and I mean I will remove it's ability to be destroyed, all I gotta do is go into the collision_model and change the maximum body vitality to 0

Quote: --- Original message by: IcePhoenix
nooo i mean can you alter it's HP withOUT making it indestructible? doesn't making that vitality thing higher give it mroe HP?
also, can't you make it so when the dropship blows up the original model doesn't jsut turn invisible but is deleted/removed whatever you call it?

Yes, and no I can make it have more HP and I dunno how to make the original model disappear wehn it's destroyed I know I could make a script but I dunno what to put

Quote: --- Original message by: forrestkeller1

Quote: --- Original message by: IcePhoenix
... that sucks....
but can't you alter the dropship's HP or something?

I can remove it and make the dropship invincible again

or you could give it more health

when you come out of the underground and go to a30_B possibly put a wraith there? with a hunter? also the ghost at the beggining is always like that i think....

Quote: --- Original message by: Hydrogen
when you come out of the underground and go to a30_B possibly put a wraith there? with a hunter? also the ghost at the beginning is always like that i think....

I can NOT add any more tags or else you will get a crash when you leave the tunnel this is the reason I removed the hunter in the cave

Quote: --- Original message by: IcePhoenix
I know it's like that. It's part of the powerup's effect to half the movement of everything but yourself. When you get into the ghost, the ghost is also half speed.
Something like that. Either way, remove the 2x here. Or maybe the ghost. But I think the former is better.
Oh so A30 has 2 bsps?
what about the other levels?

I will and yes every level has more than 1 bsps, everytime you see "loading..." it's loading the bsp
Edited by forrestkeller1 on Apr 5, 2010 at 07:03 AM

Quote: --- Original message by: forrestkeller1

I can NOT add any more tags or else you will get a crash when you leave the tunnel this is the reason I removed the hunter in the cave

I will and yes every level has more than 1 bsps, everytime you see "loading..." it's loading the bsp
Edited by forrestkeller1 on Apr 5, 2010 at 07:03 AM

1. delte the rocket warthog
2. make it a guass hog
3.bring in either geists, wraiths, or hunters
4.Give the dropship more health
5.make bigger and more epic encounters
6.???
7. -profit!!!

Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20

1. delete the rocket warthog
2. make it a gauss hog
3.bring in either geists, wraiths, or hunters
4.Give the dropship more health
5.make bigger and more epic encounters
6.sell map for money cause we know people want it.
7. -profit!!!

Quote: 1. delte the rocket warthog
2. make it a guass hog
3.bring in either geists, wraiths, or hunters
4.Give the dropship more health
5.make bigger and more epic encounters
6.???
7. -profit!!!

Don't do that. I tried using the gauss hog and my gunner couldn't hit anything, it was really agitating. With the rocket hog he seemed more accurate and even if he wasn't the splash damage helped. Suprisingly, he almost never shot a wall that was a foot away and ended up killing us.

Otherwise, do that ^

Quote: jesse

Quote: Original message by: Delicon20
1. delete the rocket warthog
2. make it a gauss hog
3.bring in either geists, wraiths, or hunters
4.Give the dropship more health
5.make bigger and more epic encounters
6.sell map for money cause we know people want it.
7. -profit!!!

agreed :P you can make it smaller...