Like I said, these are "Beta"s, and the only thing ripped from Flat Out 2 is the 2 destroyed vehicles, they are always destroyed, they are scenery. And the "Dodge" sign has the "G" fallen off.

Why do you guys care? If you don't like it, leave. No one wants to hear criticism, if anybody does, than there just out to feel better, because they see something that is better than what they can make.

Seriously. And those two blown up models are "User Made" for Flat Out 2, if you didn't pay attention to Cody's link, it was a site that provided the downloadablity of vehicles made for Flat Out 2, by users of that site. EVEN IF, we were to use their model(s), we would ask for permission.

The Coronet is made by a friend of Cody, but Cody rigged, animated, and did a little modeling on it.

The Caution Cone, its for our racing map, for a little bit of extra scenery, they move when hit.

The skins and models? I'd like to see you make those models (by yourself), rigging, animated, and look decent.

The Coronet, (the car), textures are being redone.

And if you have any further opinions, than tell them without an insult. A negative opinion should at least have an alternative.

This post reminded me of one of the age old implied rules of this forum: Don't post your work if you don't want us to critique it.

I wouldn't go there if I were you pal. I can name about 50 people in this community who can do what your doing by them selves and still have it be 5 times better than this. These models and skins look thrown together and rather rushed. if your going for a beat up car look on these then add some scrapes on the metal, some rust, and a few dents

like many many many many many people on this forum have said: Everyone here wants to help you because in the end, it's going in a game that they play. Some people are just more blunt than others, but that doesn't mean that their crit is useless.

Old quote is old. You my sir, are a dumb***. 10k polies for a bsp is hardly anything. Do you realize how many polies coldsnap is? About 100k or more. 10k wont lag you. A 10k weapon in front of you would.

Getting back to topic, here is an image of the Chopper lent to us by the "Halo: Covenant at War" Team.



Its not done, buts its on its way there. (This is not the most recent image)
( EDIT: We have it for the Movie, and wanted to make a Halo Custom Edition version, so it can be driven!)

Very detailed, and low poly, very nice too!

Thanks again CAW!
Edited by KillerKip1 on Dec 12, 2008 at 05:45 PM
Edited by KillerKip1 on Dec 12, 2008 at 05:51 PM

and this is going in what map?

How's that?

And better render please.

Look above, at my post, I fixed it.



Being serious here, whatever map we feel like, its not done yet, but almost done.
It does not have any current map its being built for, its actually for a mod that the "Halo: Covenant at War" Team is making for a starwars game, its VERY nicey being done too.
Edited by KillerKip1 on Dec 12, 2008 at 05:55 PM

Me likey. You think you could get a Hummer in their?

I have a feeling they look better than that on someone else's computer. There doesn't seem to be specular or detail maps.

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Does the tow truck actually tow? That would be sweet.

Sure, once we get the time, we could make a hummer, that sounds pretty cool too. Maybe a military HMMWV with a roof mounted machine gun!



We are working on the "towing part" (don't ask how we are going to do it, wait till we are done, then ask :) .)

And my Laptop is a 2001 Dell Latitude with only 16mb of graphics, and 564mb of Ram, I am hoping to get a 100gig HD, and a 1gig Ram chip for my PC this Christmas.
Edited by KillerKip1 on Dec 12, 2008 at 06:33 PM

On the vehicles, looks like all you did was put the diffuse maps into shader slots.

He just started, once he gets all the vehicles ingame, he will finish them. The shaders are unfinished.

Also, Flat Out 2 vehicles have been converted into many games, and can be downloaded off the internet. Nothing illegal about that. Even so, the models from Flat Out 2 have been heavily modified to look better. All the rigging, animation, and modifying was done by Cody.

None of our models were ripped, they were downloaded, and were designed for Flat Out 2, Cody modified those models to look better, and more notable, then rigged and animated them for ingame use on Halo Custom Edition.

They were never taken "from" the game, just taken from some an assortment of vehicles "made" for the game.

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I do not want to hear about "illegally used models" ever, in this thread. OR the motion of Helipad Studios Team "illegally using models". When we do something, we know what we are doing.

(THIS IS TO AVOID ARGUMENT OVER THIS SUBJECT.)

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Back to subject, (I got off topic, but Cody requested I post the above, I added the "illegal" note, to stop people from arguing about it.),

Next topic:

Once the Chopper is skinned, it will be sent to me, which the model will be shared with H3MCE.
H3MCE will rig and animate it for ingame use. Thanks "Halo: Covenant at War" Team! and Thanks H3MCE!

there is still yet to see a skin to see from you, thats a real skin, and not basic colors.

Also the shopper looks inanimatable

What about the fact that the wheel housing is seperate from the hull, so when you turn, the wheel housing turns in that direction

Why don't you read?

And the chopper on Page 5 (both of them) are not Red Haze's, it was made by "Halo: Covenant at War" Team.

Do not worry, the finishing product will be much better.
Edited by KillerKip1 on Dec 12, 2008 at 10:22 PM

The wheel housing also turns in the direction it is going

Back to subject.

Here is a video of Cody and I playing in "CodyGulch", its a BloodGulch map we use to test vehicles.

I am driving, he is the one standing there. We were testing the "fun" rate of the vehicles, and its pretty high! http://www.xfire.com/video/50959/

Here is the Ranger: http://www.xfire.com/video/4f1ae/
Edited by KillerKip1 on Dec 13, 2008 at 12:18 AM

Those custom animations where chief becomes a ghost a floats trough the door are awesome.
also the skins\shaders still look horrid, fix them.

the physics obviously suck on the tow truck

I think it uses warthogs.

yes, these early betas use warthog physics and simple skins, first i will get all my models ingame before i do the details. so be patient, ok?

Take out those guns in the back seat, they are a waste of polies just put them in the skin.

I agree with this.

I second that.

I third that.

I'm not saying it looks horrid, I'm saying its a waste of polies, you could just put them in the skin and it would look just as good and play better.

The whole point is that the guns do not make enough of a difference to change anything.
Heck, the model is only 13,500 polygons, and he is working on the model to get that number lower, it started with 18,000 polygons.

The whole thing is, the guns do not make much of a difference, if you want them gone, make your own, and remove them, because we wont.
Edited by KillerKip1 on Dec 13, 2008 at 05:35 PM

Only? That's way more then that thing needs. You're obviously wasting pollies.
Yes they do, every poly counts. Those little things could cause lag, even if you think it won't, it could because they are faces being rendered in Halo, unused and unneeded ones.

Stop making excuses for being lazy and just take criticism instead of it going in one ear and out the other. Every poly counts.

Than count them, its not going to change for you. (I hate being stubborn, but its not your model.)

High Poly means more work went into detailing it. YES, it could be lower poly, with good detail, but it is not, a most likely, will not.

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Back on subject, we have some good news, I am getting my Desktop up and running, so i should be able to make maps, model, animate, better screenys, and play games MUCH better!

Its a 1999 HP, refurbished, Windows 2000 Pro (soon XP Pro), with 191mb Ram (Being upgraded), and a total capacity of around 50 gigs.

Not the best, but I got it for free from a friend, it has a new floppy drive, and a rare ZIP drive.

More on this as it develops. (LOL)

They're expensive too.

Wow, good job! I want to try these baby :P
Keep up the good work.

Umm, we were on subject until you posted some random crap about your computer.

Now we're offtopic again...

The World War II map faces some good new features to talk about.

I need World War II gun Ideas!
I already have:

MP40
STG-44
Thompson
BAR
Browning M2 (Here is a vid of the smallest machine gun in the world: http://www.2dayblog.com/blog/2006/11/27/mini-machine-gun/?lang=en)
KAR98
Flame Thrower (Back Pack)
Springfield (obviously)
Nambu (Pistol)
Panzerschreck (German Anti-Tank)
M1 Carbine
FG42
MG42 (http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1168702253-MG42.jpg LOL)


Any more ideas? we have like 10 more weapon ideas needed.
Mainly light infantry and like 1 more heavy infantry.