^^ And that post wasn't a waste of half a page. And i'm not trolling at all.

Watch advancebo start a flame war.
Edited by iHalo on Mar 9, 2010 at 07:14 PM

Lol, k.
Who's fault is it to give Spartan the extractor in the first place?

Besides, you don't even know, he could have gotten it from Delta.

And Vern, go do something useful.

Because these guys totally did no work in extracting these, right? Oh wait, I forgot, engineering takes no skill or knowledge. 3D modeling is all that matters. hurrrrrrrr

Have fun trying to get a career in game design with that attitude.

Also, I want that Elite model at some point. I've been wanting to have a look at the Halo 3 Elite models for a while now.
Edited by Marka Haiyana on Mar 9, 2010 at 09:38 PM

Ima weee smarter then you all think.

Also I show all my h3 conversions publicly, xfire, halomaps, sometimes modacity (but thats for shaders, fixing up the bitmaps, .etc) since halomaps doesn't generate enough crit for shader fixing except for worthless posts.

Wrong, he handed it to delta and me. Delta never handed me the app, just helped.

Go troll/crap post somewhere else.

umad?
cause you dont have it?

In the first place, I never reversed engineered or anything for that matter. Detox, Anthony (who ever contributed/made the app, workable model extractor, workable bitmap extractor) are the original ones that made the app and should be thanked for that.

All I ever did was figure out how to extract some non-rippable bitmaps that alternation couldn't do without changing it internally.


Also it wont hurt me guys if I don't release this stuff anyways since I was gonna do it.
Edited by Spartan_094 on Mar 9, 2010 at 10:27 PM

I request someone send me a working sniper jackal pls. i dont care if its stock or what i would be eternally grateful as long as it works.

By engineering I meant coding of any type. I didn't mean reverse-engineering the game or anything.

I just think it's retarded that this community neglects the fact that engineering is a huge part of game development, coding is just as if not more important than the art side of it.

i still have the best shaders out. NOONE CAN BEAT IT!!!...
but i wouldnt mind making you good elite shaders... but only if you'd ask.

EDIT: imma post pics of it l8er

EDIT: LOLOOOLOL, pic

Edited by Shade117 pro on Mar 10, 2010 at 04:17 AM
Edited by Shade117 pro on Mar 10, 2010 at 04:29 AM

your so cool.
all I need is the bitmap extractor in the public alteration to do what I need to do.

Actually a 3d design career in college requires a higher GPA than an engineer. But still reverse engineering and like wise is pretty tough too..

not that i'm trying to contradict anything anybody said.
Edited by Newbkilla on Mar 10, 2010 at 03:53 PM

No, do not use that custom w/e that was in the detail map, looks like crap, also using my old spartan shaders do not count




Also I think your mean REJECT not neglect. Hunter is the biggest example of an anti-ripper and everybody knows it too.
Edited by Spartan_094 on Mar 10, 2010 at 05:33 PM

Hey, you two, stop being stupid. You're really starting to piss me and everyone else off.

Here, look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyq8zkgEP6c

Want to know what Bungie did?
The models and FP arm skin, that's it.

Want to know what me and 094 did?

Spartan094: Extracted and rigged the mauler, extracted the arms then converted the bones to Halo 1 bones, fixed any errors in the model due to converting, and compiled the fp.model_animations

Me(ODX): Animated the mauler, exported out the .jma/.jmo's for 094 to compile (My CE is broked and I haven't fixed it yet)

As you can see...it's really not as simple as 'Rip, put in game, done.'

Rigging a weapon is nothing.
Renaming some bones is nothing.
Normal errors are easy to fix, and open edges don't matter in FP arms.
tool model-animations h3\weapons\mauler\fp

Only real work is ODX animating it.

What you think is easy might not be easy for someone else. For example, Gamma can script 10x better than I can ever hope too, but he can't model a box to save his life :P
So fixing errors might be harder for a different person, and learning rigging is confusing at first, especially if you want to rig it with IK constraints, instead of just normal nodes.

tl;dr, just because it's easy for you doesn't make it easy for everyone else :\

Yep. More work comes from converting every damn thing. Weapons, bipeds, vehicles, scenery.

Also I dont use h3 or halo3 since its been abused and dont feel like getting it mixed up. Its

tool model h3r\(folders go here)

umad?


Conversions are fun, take to long. I go for accuracy.

But ODX, bo DOES have a point, doing weapons to make gbx_models arnt so hard, animations are the hardest for fp weapons, I still havnt done shaders for the mauler yet and thats ok.

It was meant as an example, and wasn't supposed to be crying "Oh taking Bungie's stuff out of Halo 3 and putting it into Halo 1 is haarrddd D:"

I was simply saying it actually takes some effort and people need to quick crying about it.

Well, some people don't accept other people's opinions, and feel the need to force their beliefs and distaste on everyone else.

Sounds like you're talking about religion ;o

lol, i only used your shaders for the shoulders n the decal cos i was to lazy to make CUSTOM shaders for them. and plus, thats not a detail map, its a reflection cubemap. the details are crap if you add them to the h3b for hce. btw, my visor shaders are epik pwnage

I was gonna make that reference, but I chose not to in attempt to not offend anyone.

Marka stop taking drugs. No matter how much time everyone puts into this game, its still a game. ;)

With effort thrown into making it.

so I'm just gonna come out and ask this

since a lot of people can now ri-...errr...I mean EXTRACT the halo 3 bipeds does that mean you could get the smexy h3 brute bipeds?

Yeah, they can. It's just a question of if they WILL, and if they will, if they will release it afterwards.

Depends. The brutes will...wait. Due to technical/3ds max issues of the armor.

I am thinking of your guys first taste is the halo 3 odst from HALO 3 NOT ODST.

:/ why cant it be the halo 3 odst? isnt delta releasing the h3 odst .. odst soon?
Edited by Hydrogen on Mar 11, 2010 at 10:01 PM

Daerp. You can choose between the 2 also I need to talk to him before he releases them. Might do it in a big pack to keep you all from whining for individual assets.

Uhhh, come again? I don't follow.

It's probably all those drugs I take.

I'd pesonally prefer the original h3 one because I liked the gloved hands better on the odst

also :C I was hopin you'd release the grunts first

I never forgot how he told you off like that.....

JFlighter: "Did you just say ripping equals no time spent in a game?"

Marka: "Ya so?"

JFlighter: "That's not practical is it?"

Marka "Screw practicality I'm a ripping nazi!"

Wait, maybe you really SHOULD get off the drugs.....
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Mar 12, 2010 at 04:22 PM

umad? I am a nazi when it comes to shaders, I will keep redoing it over and over until I get it done right. I might say I will be done but I find new ways to improve.


New diffuse, much more clear and sharp. Also you can count on bo to crap post instead of generating real crit because he is a bad kid.

E: I know the lights should be green.
Edited by Spartan_094 on Mar 13, 2010 at 12:44 AM

Thats hot.

Beastly Shaders, and Good Feet. I like.

Also notice how the elite makes the BSP look like total crap.
Edited by iHalo on Mar 13, 2010 at 12:45 AM

I dont like the armour. Too non-metalish, and too blue.
Whats with the armour shader on the hands aswell?

Psssh what you smok'n? Also if I change it anymore for the brightness and such it will mess it up, best I can get it right now.

Looks cool, for some reason it gives me a halo 1 elite type look as well nice.