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vmt
Joined: Jan 29, 2008


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 11:55 AM    Msg. 71 of 276       
ok you might think a stationary elephant would be best but it would look and be stupid and would make the map nothing like h3 my point exactly or your could just make a elephant vehicle no?


wesman
Joined: Mar 18, 2008

no your a freezer


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 03:52 PM    Msg. 72 of 276       
the stationary elephant is the best because the only usefull time to move it in H3 is when your playing neutral assault or multi flag and in that case all you do is move it up a dune so the enemy slides down the ramp because of the steep incline which stops them from reaching the flag.

also will you be putting the davinchi code egg in this like in H3
Edited by wesman on Apr 10, 2008 at 04:20 PM


vmt
Joined: Jan 29, 2008


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 04:16 PM    Msg. 73 of 276       
yes but its fun to drive


YakZSmelk
Joined: Apr 3, 2006

- Environment Artist - robhow.com


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 04:22 PM    Msg. 74 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: vmt
yes but its fun to drive


In all honestly players that drive the Elephant in Slayer are either; bored, bad, or griefing. Which is why I think a stationary Elephant may be the best call. But I don't know whether or not I'd want them in Slayer [stationary] at all, they take up space for the Warthogs, and in HCE, race is possible. Also all of you know a stationary Elephant couldn't shoot much from where it is located in Halo 3, so the placements would be moved.

Quote: --- Original message by: wesman
also will you be putting the davinchi code egg in this like in H3
Edited by wesman on Apr 10, 2008 at 04:20 PM

A what? haha
Edited by YakZSmelk on Apr 10, 2008 at 04:33 PM


wesman
Joined: Mar 18, 2008

no your a freezer


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 05:01 PM    Msg. 75 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: wesman
also will you be putting the davinchi code egg in this like in H3
Edited by wesman on Apr 10, 2008 at 04:20 PM

A what? haha
Edited by YakZSmelk on Apr 10, 2008 at 04:33 PM


its the easter egg in sand trap that is found outside of the map its and egg with like davinchi code stuff on it and its purplyblueishpink
here is a video of it http://youtube.com/watch?v=pO5ElMD2Prw&feature=related

gamegodlazy
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Screenshot Guru
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Joined: Aug 17, 2006

Please pass the Panda Sauce to me


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 05:09 PM    Msg. 76 of 276       
that egg wouldnt add anything to the gameplay of the map and is na waste of poly's if you would add it


wesman
Joined: Mar 18, 2008

no your a freezer


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 05:34 PM    Msg. 77 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: gamegodlazy
that egg wouldnt add anything to the gameplay of the map and is na waste of poly's if you would add it


i know im just saying if your going for accuracy then thats somthing that needs to be added

oh and by the way you only use the word "an" in stead of "a" when the word following it starts with a vowel
like this: I went to A house.
and this: I went to AN ice skating rink.

sorry about that i just get super annoyed with those kinds of things,
its the one and only thing im a perfectionist about.

OK theres my grammar lesson for today. Now back to what ever it was we were talking about


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 06:32 PM    Msg. 78 of 276       
LOL @ wesmans teaching lesson.

AAAaaanyway... Back ontopic

Will there be a Hornet?

And if your not using the Elephant then what will be a base instead of it?


wesman
Joined: Mar 18, 2008

no your a freezer


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 07:02 PM    Msg. 79 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: HaloSlayer
LOL @ wesmans teaching lesson.

AAAaaanyway... Back ontopic

Will there be a Hornet?

And if your not using the Elephant then what will be a base instead of it?


i think hes going with a non moving elephant to be the base


Face
Joined: Jan 13, 2007

Send me out...with a bang.


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 07:26 PM    Msg. 80 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: HaloSlayer

Will there be a Hornet?


The only way to get a hornet on Sandtrap is through Forge isn't it? So I'm guessing no one is going to go through the trouble of making something that doesn't even belong on the map.


AlwinRoth
Joined: Jan 4, 2008


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 08:01 PM    Msg. 81 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: Adrammelech
In my opinion the best Idea is a stationary elephant.



definatly agree... hell i mean strongly agree, cause it would be terribly hard to actually get a moving elephant, especially since your using halo ce... sigh if only bungie had time to release another halo ce download...


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 08:41 PM    Msg. 82 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: wesman
Quote: --- Original message by: gamegodlazy
that egg wouldnt add anything to the gameplay of the map and is na waste of poly's if you would add it


i know im just saying if your going for accuracy then thats somthing that needs to be added

oh and by the way you only use the word "an" in stead of "a" when the word following it starts with a vowel
like this: I went to A house.
and this: I went to AN ice skating rink.

sorry about that i just get super annoyed with those kinds of things,
its the one and only thing im a perfectionist about.

OK theres my grammar lesson for today. Now back to what ever it was we were talking about

English is not GGL's first language....


wesman
Joined: Mar 18, 2008

no your a freezer


Posted: Apr 10, 2008 08:52 PM    Msg. 83 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: Rozar
Quote: --- Original message by: wesman
Quote: --- Original message by: gamegodlazy
that egg wouldnt add anything to the gameplay of the map and is na waste of poly's if you would add it


i know im just saying if your going for accuracy then thats somthing that needs to be added

oh and by the way you only use the word "an" in stead of "a" when the word following it starts with a vowel
like this: I went to A house.
and this: I went to AN ice skating rink.

sorry about that i just get super annoyed with those kinds of things,
its the one and only thing im a perfectionist about.

OK theres my grammar lesson for today. Now back to what ever it was we were talking about




Mispelling, failure to capitalize "I", lack of punctuation, and lack of apostrophes. I am ashamed of you.
Edited by Rozar on Apr 10, 2008 at 07:55 PM
you should be


Edited by wesman on Apr 10, 2008 at 08:53 PM


YakZSmelk
Joined: Apr 3, 2006

- Environment Artist - robhow.com


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 12:21 AM    Msg. 84 of 276       
I received a PM about whether or not the image I showed earlier was in game. For those of you wondering, the map is in the game, in a very rough version for H2V. Here's two new screenshots from the Alpha build featuring, basic shader, I've created. The sand was created using a texture file from the Total Textures DVD (it's been to cold to go to the beach!!). The walls where created using siding and wall paper from a friends house, and both of the bumps were created using Crazy Bump.





And image I showed earlier, I was talking about;



Quote: --- Original message by: wesman
Quote: --- Original message by: gamegodlazy
that egg wouldnt add anything to the gameplay of the map and is na waste of poly's if you would add it

i know im just saying if your going for accuracy then thats somthing that needs to be added

I'm not some much worried about accuracy now that, it looks like Sandtrap. I'am still trying to grasp the feel of Sandtrap, but there are alot of things that needed to be adjusted to make it more fun to play on.

Quote: --- Original message by: HaloSlayer
Will there be a Hornet?
And if your not using the Elephant then what will be a base instead of it?

For the HCE map H3MT will be creating, I would assume it would depend on whether or not they create a Hornet for gameplay.
As for the Elephant, I can only speak for H2V. And what I will say is I have an idea I'm toying around with and I think players might enjoy it, but I'm not saying anything else until I figure out whether or not I'm going to it.

Quote: --- Original message by: H4Z4RD
That looks a little too small, needs some smoothing, and I wanna see it in Halo CE, not H2 Vista.
So make it bigger, smooth it more, and put it into CE.
Other then that it looks good, Good Job
Edited by H4Z4RD on Apr 11, 2008 at 12:29 AM

It's a very earlier build, the reason your not seeing it in Halo CE yet is because I'm not making that version I'm only modeling it. So pretty much what I'm showing off is the model, and smoothing is in the works. I used Boolean which makes a big mess, so I have to clean up the topology before I can really get in there and smooth. I hear you H4Z4RD and soon enough, I made this post so I can make you guys happy.


YakZSmelk

Edited by YakZSmelk on Apr 11, 2008 at 12:38 AM
*removed errant color tag from post
Edited by Dennis on Apr 11, 2008 at 11:18 AM


ThePlague
Joined: Dec 16, 2007

Steam: jubalearlybh


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 12:29 AM    Msg. 85 of 276       
That looks a little too small, needs some smoothing, and I wanna see it in Halo CE, not H2 Vista.

So make it bigger, smooth it more, and put it into CE.

Other then that it looks good, Good Job
Edited by H4Z4RD on Apr 11, 2008 at 12:29 AM


TVTyrant
Joined: Mar 16, 2008

Who am I?


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 12:56 AM    Msg. 86 of 276       
HAHHA, the H2 Vista screen shots look like a Z map!!!


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 02:43 AM    Msg. 87 of 276       
They look accurately sick. Keep it up, but remember the sand needs to be darker!


YakZSmelk
Joined: Apr 3, 2006

- Environment Artist - robhow.com


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 03:14 AM    Msg. 88 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: TVTyrant
HAHHA, the H2 Vista screen shots look like a Z map!!!

What's a Z map? And please critque the work not make fun of it, if you haven't been reading this is really early in development and it's my second map I've worked on. There's alot I don't know yet, so please be helpful, Thanks!


thecow777
Joined: Mar 7, 2008

in game name: All_levels


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 03:33 AM    Msg. 89 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: YakZSmelk
Quote: --- Original message by: TVTyrant
HAHHA, the H2 Vista screen shots look like a Z map!!!

What's a Z map? And please critque the work not make fun of it, if you haven't been reading this is really early in development and it's my second map I've worked on. There's alot I don't know yet, so please be helpful, Thanks!


Alot you don't know? ARE YOU CRAZY! This is a very good copy of the halo 3 sandtrap, and I would know as I was playing it just 20minutes ago on xboxlive. But also smoothening edges, darker sand. Also how everyone is saying stationary elephant it wouldn't be as fun as players would be like: "w+f why c@n't i pleh dis el3fant" in their odd ingame speech. As really, imagine running up to elephant to drive you go to drivers area and you can't drive...you would be disapointed. Now I know this map would be very hard to make but you could make a broken down elephant where it has like a blown up hole through the side and rubbel on thground and like the cockpit's roof has fallen in. It would probably be hard to make but sometihing like that in my opinion is better then a stationary normal one.


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 06:41 AM    Msg. 90 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: TVTyrant
HAHHA, the H2 Vista screen shots look like a Z map!!!


Probably because Zteam rips from halo 2.


YakZSmelk
Joined: Apr 3, 2006

- Environment Artist - robhow.com


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 06:59 AM    Msg. 91 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: HaloSlayer
Quote: --- Original message by: TVTyrant
HAHHA, the H2 Vista screen shots look like a Z map!!!


Probably because Zteam rips from halo 2.

Could someone tell me what this means?


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 07:01 AM    Msg. 92 of 276       
It means the Zteam who make the Halo 2 ce maps dont actually make anything. Mostly take everything from halo 2 >_>


YakZSmelk
Joined: Apr 3, 2006

- Environment Artist - robhow.com


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 08:02 AM    Msg. 93 of 276       
You know, that Sanctuary is not nearly as impressive now. I can assure you though the three Shaders in use for the Sand and Stone I've created.


Wolf_
Joined: May 16, 2006


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 10:50 AM    Msg. 94 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: HaloSlayer
It means the Zteam who make the Halo 2 ce maps dont actually make anything. Mostly take everything from halo 2 >_>
Zteam puts great work into the ripped items.You just havent noticed it..Besides they got a warning.."If you dont own Halo 2 then you should test it and delete it" or something like that..Dont say they dont make anything cause they make aloooot more then you think.


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 11:22 AM    Msg. 95 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: Wolf_
Besides they got a warning.."If you dont own Halo 2 then you should test it and delete it" or something like that..
That warning is meaningless and stems from a misunderstanding of the applicable copyright laws and licensing statues.


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 11:24 AM    Msg. 96 of 276       
Anyway. Back on topic. Will HaloCE's Sandtrap have H3MT's stuff??


Wolf_
Joined: May 16, 2006


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 11:36 AM    Msg. 97 of 276       
..Sigh their "stuff" is so unstabil and would make the gameplay unfair.


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 11:37 AM    Msg. 98 of 276       
I doubt it. I have faith in H3MT.


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 11:42 AM    Msg. 99 of 276       
ALL FAITH IN H3MT!!! *Bows head*


Wolf_
Joined: May 16, 2006


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 11:44 AM    Msg. 100 of 276       
Oh we will see.A team that just makes TO much content will be doomed.
Edited by Wolf_ on Apr 11, 2008 at 11:45 AM


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 11:54 AM    Msg. 101 of 276       
I think that this will be a popular map.


Wolf_
Joined: May 16, 2006


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 12:11 PM    Msg. 102 of 276       
Whitout h3 content.


YakZSmelk
Joined: Apr 3, 2006

- Environment Artist - robhow.com


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 12:37 PM    Msg. 103 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: Rooster
You should chamfer edges to make some of the structures seem more rounded due to weathering.

http://www.haloforever.com/images/maps/larger%20size/halo_3_maps_sandtrap_tips.jpg
as u can see, the edges do look a little rounder. I believe you can achieve this effect though a tinny chanpher on sertain segnents.
Edited by Rooster on Apr 11, 2008 at 11:44 AM


Majority of the edges are chamfered, the defensive structure has not yet been. The entire structure still needs a lot more work, along with the terrain (which I've been focusing my time on at the moment).


Wolf_
Joined: May 16, 2006


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 01:46 PM    Msg. 104 of 276       
Use nice bumpsXD


Mythic128
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

-Account Locked-


Posted: Apr 11, 2008 02:21 PM    Msg. 105 of 276       
Quote: --- Original message by: _kid_
Dude, looks great also

Take my advice

KEEP THIS IN H2VISTA!

Halo custom edition is crap now, the lag, just everything.

In h2vista you can add lifts, no problem, yo u can do what ever you want, and you dont REALLY need custom weapons>

And I was thinkin, M A Y B E CMT would help you out, this looks F***ing AMAZING
Maybe SOME OF US don't have that game...

 
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