Out of humble curiosity, I would like to ask why nobody has done the following yet:
a Lumoria mod with CMT assets.

I know they are different teams (which were often at odds, frequently entertainingly so) and I realize its not likely ever going to happen but hear me out on this. As a long time Halo fan, CE as a whole really was one of the coolest communities, whether it was here or other sites with the exception of the all too common troll, this community has spawned some truly impressive works of art. As a CE fan, every person I introduce this game to or that ever sees me playing it I always recommend Lumoria and SPV3 to them. I know that is cliche, but I remember posting in these threads and following their development with nothing short of zealous fan-boyishness. And from this amazing community comes a tale of 2 mods: one with stunning visuals and good gameplay, and the other with stunning gameplay and OG visuals. I'm not naive enough to request this, but I am curious as to why nobody has combined this for the best of both worlds? We used to get a h3, hr, cmt mod on every single map that came out thanks to our.. "latino" community (you know who you are :P), how come nobody has made a lumoria mod with CMT visuals? Is there a tag space issue? Did TM or CMT expressly forbid it?

Just curious, think it could turn out really cool even if gameplay was not altered.

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Yes, we need to see Brandon die again... IN VISR MODE

I had the same thought. That would be a great idea...

We gave CMT our blessing to do that mod of Lumoria if they wanted. Our only request at the time was that they keep the gameplay the same. I believe we had some very major differences in terms of encounter design and gameplay, and that was our request to at least keep the gameplay somewhat faithful to the original.

In reality though you can do whatever you want.

Higuy is speaking for himself here.
No "official" blessing was ever given on behalf of the team, nor is it needed.

The Lumoria project was a rather messy one in terms of tags, and it was on the very limit of allowed tagspace due to its sloppy organisation. I believe Masterz had already done some basic attempt at OS'ifying Lumoris, but ran into some troubles that would require some overhauls and eventually didn't bother to continue with it (can't blaim him). The details elude me, and I'm too lazy to look them up.

Another matter that complicates things is that the original development setup is gone, the only way to mod Lumoria is to use an uncommented, unstructured version of the scripts, together with a ripped project via HEK+ or whichever tool is used for that nowadays.

I guess the only reason is that it would take a hell lot of time and part 2 is already taking that time...

Eh, it'd be neat, but the charm of Lumoria really is how it feels like a campaign expansion for Halo 1.

I would much rather work on something new and different than a mod of a mod.

I think Lumoria is good as it is. (Maybe it could have more checkpoints though(Or just you know type game_save_totally_unsafe in the console))

I honestly haven't played most of Lumoria (life priorities changed), but I remember playing one level of the first release because I had a small contibution.
That being said, Lumoria has always seemed to me as a nod to the original game, and it seemed like a sin to even mod it to me. It (in my eyes) is a shrine, a holy temple. And as such, should not be tampered with.

If the tags are released, you don't *need* permission for anything, BUT... The quality of the sub-mod will be severely damaged if you do it without really knowing what you're getting into. as Lode said, without the documentation (and by essentially relying on rips), it will be nearly impossible to keep the gameplay and mod the same while using CMT weapons.

Free cmt tags



http://haloce3.com/downloads/tags/misc-tags/cmt-b30-evolved-tagset/?_sft_category=biped-tags,misc-tags,scenery-tags,vehicle-tags,weapon-tags
Edited by Halonimator on Nov 4, 2016 at 09:05 PM

What could be considered the opposite of a "dank" meeme? Because that is all I see above....

Why not bringing it to a different level: make HD OS shaders of the stock models, with normals, high-res textures and speculars? It would give a fresh touch to the mod, and still keep the core gameplay and mood.

I'd love to do it, but my tags folder is a mess right now

I think the worse part would be a CMT version being released and that version overshadowing the original due to 'omg h3/h4/reach weapons!!'. And yeah, the gameplay won't nearly be the same UNLESS it was just a reskin of the original. But that's just my opinion, anyway.



This may just be my opinion again here or bad memory, but Lumoria was always released with the intention of it being completely rippable/moddable, mostly so people could learn. But Like Lode said you're free to do what you want with the campaign, in fact I think it'd be cool to see some good mod's of it!

Edited by Higuy on Nov 5, 2016 at 09:06 AM

I always wanted to remake the halo 1 assets in higher detail. That combined with os and a bsp similar in quality to tsce would make a fantastic mod to show how far we have come. But i think thst effort would be better spent on a fresh and new campaign.

Let's make Lumoria the new era of Blood Gulch mods!

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Edited by Tech on Nov 5, 2016 at 09:41 PM

wait you can actually post twice?

Cue Altis.

I mean, it's been a while, but i'd be more than happy to reinstall sapien and do this if it had the blessing of both teams.. i could use a hobby as of late. my intention would be to keep gameplay the same as the original lumoria (if only because it would be easier) but i'd have no idea how to get things like the rocket hog working or the vehicle emp sections.
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^ didnt see this post, that is more the answer i was expecting
Edited by roviet1337 on Nov 13, 2016 at 11:21 PM

You could use the H1 spirit tags in B30 evolved to keep the gameplay and gunplay the same, but with CMT graphics.
Edited by MEGA_VKNG on Nov 14, 2016 at 01:55 PM

Indeed apart from those awful terminals and the camera spazzing out every so often.



That would really be gorgeous. Spectacular.

(Pls give us a version that has text only instead of cringy VA work tho...)
Edited by LuciTheAlien on Nov 18, 2016 at 06:53 PM
Edited by LuciTheAlien on Nov 18, 2016 at 06:56 PM