Well, im trynig to improve the HCE engine while its runing, Why? Why not decrease encounters o rendered objects? Becuase the map has no scenery, only the encounter and only uses the H1 models. I use the monitor to see much CPU was using and ram was using and to my sorprise it was only 30%. How could that be posibly if i was at 10 fps?

Prove:


So does H1 uses only core? theres anyway to make use more? Or at least use more cpu speed?

>0.77 GHz
lmao

How ever my computer is 1.8 ghz dual core, its low for these day, but its more tah enough to run a 15 year old game.

Is it a laptop? Btw Halo CE cannot use any multicore technology LMAO.
The only far possible way is building a halo cea like renderer, so that the main process is less overloaded.

Or you know having access to the Halo CE source code.

You have an Intel Pentium processor at 1.8ghz and that list does not list your graphics card either.

Yes, you're going to get low performance unfortunately. And no, CE cannot use multi-core.

Do people forget how poorly optimized for the time this game was when it came out?

I still have nightmares about this game's performance online back in '05

What is wierd is that this computer has manage 48 actors at once before (Outpost firefight for example, 25-45 fps,) but this time is so laggy, and I´m using the same count. How ever Halo 2 runs smooth, why not this time?

More detailed info

Detalles adicionales del equipo  
 
Componente Detalles Puntuación Puntuación total 
Procesador Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU 2117U @ 1.80GHz 5.9 4.2 
  Determinado por la puntuación más baja 
 
Memoria (RAM) 4.00 GB 5.9 
Gráficos Intel(R) HD Graphics 4.2 
Gráficos de juego 1664 MB (memoria de gráficos total disponible) 5.9 
Disco duro principal 221GB disponibles (403GB en total) 5.9 
Windows 8 Single Language 

Sistema   
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
  Fabricante SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. 
  Modelo 300E5E/300E4E/300E5V/300E4V 
  Cantidad total de memoria del sistema 4.00 GB en RAM 
  Tipo de sistema Sistema operativo de 64 bits 
  Número de procesadores principales 2 
 
Almacenamiento   
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
  Tamaño total de los discos duros 443 GB 
  Partición del disco (C:) 221 GB disponibles (403 GB en total) 
  Unidad de medios (D:) CD/DVD 
  Partición del disco (G:) 15 GB disponibles (40 GB en total) 
 
Gráficos   
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
  Tipo del adaptador de monitor Intel(R) HD Graphics 
  Memoria de gráficos disponible en total 1664 MB 
        Memoria dedicada de gráficos 64 MB 
        Memoria dedicada del sistema 0 MB 
        Memoria compartida del sistema 1632 MB 
  Mostrar la versión del controlador del adaptador 9.17.10.2875 
  Resolución del monitor principal 1366x768 
  Versión de DirectX DirectX 11 o posterior 

Sorry becuase is in Spanish, how ever you should be anble to understand the values
Edited by EmmanuelCD on Aug 23, 2016 at 06:37 PM

Maybe it's not the amount, it's the quality.

What do you mean? In Outpost i used H3 and HR characters with 10 times the amount of polygons,

And now im using the original H1 models. The only thing that has change is the bsp, wich now has 30k while Outpost only had 5k polies, how ever

48x2000 each = 96 000 polies + 30 000 = 126 000 per scene

48x10,000 = 480 000 + 5 000 polies = 485 000 per scene

WTH?

There are other factors that can dip a game's frame rate you know. Most of the time it's game-related with how well the game is coded, sometimes however it can OS related.

What about scripts? i have like 15 scripts runing at time.

What scripts? It depends on what said script is doing.

That's not good...

You are running the original Windows 8? Windows 8 has been unsupported since January. Windows 8.1 is a free upgrade and I would recommend updating for security sake.


You are running integrated graphics, with only 64 mb of dedicated memory. The rest of the video memory is shared with RAM. While only Halo requires 32 mb of dedicated memory (2003 specs), I would recommend looking at more powerful hardware if you wish to play games without performance issues.


Me too, I have some not so good memories of my 56k modem and trying to play Halo online around then.

Thats why we need a Halo CE source port.

I hope that this is a joke...

Considering Hyperluke got a game over at the first NES Contra level, he was a joke to begin with.

Oh man, for a newcomer you really came in fighting

lmao I ain't a newcomer, I've been here on this forum since 2009 (lurked Gearbox Forums before this place became THE Halo CE modding forum). My best known account back then was CaptainVidya.
Edit: Besides, reg dates have never mattered in the long run
Edited by BipolarAurora on Aug 24, 2016 at 09:31 AM

Can confirm identity.

Can also confirm reg dates DO matter in the long run.

Probably is Alice, I remeber he\she saying that was an ancient account if I remeber correcctly. But maybe not, I dont care anyways...

HPC does actually use multiple cores, just not to great effect. Having said that,it also has no need to use multiple cores to great effect.

k ASCENDANTJUSTICE

I'm sorry, can someone PLEASE tell me how this is a bad idea?

>'We need the HCE Source Code to do this.'
>'That's why we need the HCE Source Code'

stop posting

Whats the point of having the source code for CE if you're going to port it to Source.
You don't need the source code to port Halo to Source. We can extract BSP, scenery, fp models, weapon values,etc. Literally no point of the source code.

If you "port" to the Source engine, then its just a Source engine game. You aren't using sapien, gurilla, tool to compile, your just using Hammer to make a source map.

That means 0 backwards compatibility to the 1000s of maps thats been made for CE, which if we had the mythical source code for, one of the major points would be backwards compatibility. (or at least an easy process to make old maps compatible)

If you make a "Source port" it defeats the purpose. It stops being Halo.

Go get gmod and download a bunch of Halo weapons. Theres your source port. Have fun.

Sketch, he meant source port as in a Doom source port like (G)ZDoom.
Edit: Basically take the source code of Halo CE and modify it to include new features.
Edited by BipolarAurora on Aug 25, 2016 at 02:43 AM

My point still stands, whats the point of a Source code if you're just going to port it to Source.

This. We dont need to port to source if we have the source code. People smarter than me could add the things missing from CE that Source has.
Edited by EtchyaSketch on Aug 25, 2016 at 02:48 AM

yeah Hyperluke isn't very bright lol

Oh I'm sorry, for having an idea that is good.

The point of a source port is to enhance Halo CE and potentially give the engine enough capabilities to match something of a modern game. Just look at Vanilla Doom on Dos compared to the best mods out there for source ports like GZDoom. It would remove all the limitations that mappers complain about. There would be compatibility, since the ability to use .MAP files is in the source code. Just like how doom source ports can still play .WAD files.

Also "BipolarAurora" I do not need your blatant insults when you could actually be contributing to the discussion. This has NOTHING to do with Contra just because I am new to a game. Please tell me why I should stop posting? What is it about me having a casual conversation which upsets you?!
Edited by HyperLuke on Aug 25, 2016 at 03:39 AM

You know that Microsoft isn't known for open-sourcing much of their programs including Halo, since CE's engine can still make them a profit with the Master Chief Collection being a thing. Think for more than 10 seconds.