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James
Joined: Jul 2, 2010

the winner


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 02:38 PM    Msg. 106 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter
in b4 posting more attempts at being funny.
In b4 posting simple words with no context in an attempt to showing that you have been "unaffected".


cock nugget

pro tip, your in cali as 094 has told me? get a life and stop trying to act like your a internet badass who thinks he is doing the talking and walking

inb4fail post response
Edited by James on Jul 17, 2010 at 02:39 PM


DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 02:44 PM    Msg. 107 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: James

Quote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter
in b4 posting more attempts at being funny.
In b4 posting simple words with no context in an attempt to showing that you have been "unaffected".


cock nugget

pro tip, your in cali as 094 has told me? get a life and stop trying to act like your a internet badass who thinks he is doing the talking and walking

inb4fail post response
Edited by James on Jul 17, 2010 at 02:39 PM



Try harder spartan 094.


James
Joined: Jul 2, 2010

the winner


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 02:51 PM    Msg. 108 of 185       
umad?

im his friend you cock nugget get out


DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 02:55 PM    Msg. 109 of 185       
Get out of here wingman, I'm sure spartan 094 gave you a link and shoved a bunch of false opinions down your throat even if you aren't a second account. Spartan 094 has always been the personal army type of person. He would rather fight one person with a bunch of half-minded followers than actually prove his points on his own. Or has a response that emulates to "i don't care" such as "it's just pixels on a screen, no one cares".


Spartan_094
Joined: Jan 8, 2008


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 03:32 PM    Msg. 110 of 185       
Oh heres a new one in the book for you

k


Oh pro tip for your book, don't get your panties in a bunch.
Edited by Spartan_094 on Jul 17, 2010 at 03:44 PM


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 04:11 PM    Msg. 111 of 185       
hi.

Shut the hell up now.


007
Joined: Mar 4, 2010

FluFFy


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 04:21 PM    Msg. 112 of 185       
Well, atleast it went well for awhile.


Alder250
Joined: Jul 11, 2010

The last enemy that shall be destroyed is Death.


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 07:22 PM    Msg. 113 of 185       
Lol. Wingman.


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 09:51 PM    Msg. 114 of 185       
Stay on topic and keep it a discussion with no name calling or insults.


Edited by Dennis on Jul 17, 2010 at 09:52 PM


Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Still here. Still loves bacon


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 10:05 PM    Msg. 115 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: James

Quote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter
in b4 posting more attempts at being funny.
In b4 posting simple words with no context in an attempt to showing that you have been "unaffected".


cock nugget

pro tip, your in cali as 094 has told me? get a life and stop trying to act like your a internet badass who thinks he is doing the talking and walking

inb4fail post response
Edited by James on Jul 17, 2010 at 02:39 PM


he kinda is.otherwise I wouldn't hate his guts. Seriously though hunter about how long... (rambling on hopelessly because I've got nothing better to do)

*5 hours later* -and also I think we should end this topic by saying ripping is both good and bad kthxbai
Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 17, 2010 at 10:06 PM


Spartan_094
Joined: Jan 8, 2008


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 10:34 PM    Msg. 116 of 185       
Dude, drop it, dennis already said this above you. This topic needs to get locked it's pointless and it will turn back into a flame fest again soon.


Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Still here. Still loves bacon


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 10:38 PM    Msg. 117 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan_094
Dude, drop it, dennis already said this above you. This topic needs to get locked it's pointless and it will turn back into a flame fest again soon.


I didn't hold it, I got bored and decided to post (hense the hopeless ranting thing)

also... I felt the need to express that I hate hunter's guts


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 11:32 PM    Msg. 118 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
[also... I felt the need to express that I hate...
This is not the place to do that. If you are bored or can't contribute to the discussion you should not post at all. To do anything else is childish.


antiblood
Joined: Jul 17, 2010

Hail satan, smoke mehth


Posted: Jul 17, 2010 11:57 PM    Msg. 119 of 185       
i agree with dee, if you make your own content and stuff then you are putting in more effort and being original and blah blah blah. if you want cod go play cod, the graphics will be better on that game anyway. if you want halo3 go play halo3 no one cares. spartan is a tard. stop ripping and make some real cool stuff with you IMAGINATION, eva heard of that? regardless how many people say stop ripping it wont stop though because this is hce, land of the brainless uncreative content ripping...i shouldnt go on.


Spartan_094
Joined: Jan 8, 2008


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 12:03 AM    Msg. 120 of 185       
Oh god I knew the flame war would soon start again. Also dee got a wingman eh?

*looks at join date*
And what have you done to help? Nothing but start drama, again, I swear this thread is like politics.

Tbh read
Quote: --- Original message by: CLS_GRUNT
I promised myself I wouldn't post in retaliation to stupidity, but I just walked into this thread and saw this post and dear god I could not help myself.

Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009

WHY DO YOU CARE!

Spartan is modding a 7 year old game, on his free time, for fun. Stop trying to force what you think down peoples necks. If they choose to rip LET THEM RIP, it doesn't affect you nor anyone else.

This goes out to the rest of you as well, stop trying to correct people for the actions they have taken while modding this game, after all that's all it is, a game.

Edited by Spartan_094 on Jul 18, 2010 at 12:08 AM


007
Joined: Mar 4, 2010

FluFFy


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 12:14 AM    Msg. 121 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: antiblood
regardless how many people say stop ripping it wont stop though because this is hce, land of the brainless uncreative content ripping...i shouldnt go on.


Seriously? People rip for the same exact reason. People Rip so they can Have FUN. People make things so they can have FUN. Regardless if they add something original or not it all ends up in the same way. You really shouldn't go on if you join the same day you whine about ripping when you should actually contribute, and before you say something about "Ripping isn't contributing" perhaps something besides a brainless post would help.

Edited by 007 on Jul 18, 2010 at 12:17 AM


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 12:44 AM    Msg. 122 of 185       
...From Halo 2/3/ODST/Reach...
-Using rips for fun is ok
-Flaunting rips is unacceptable
-Using rips to learn things like uvw, shaders, animations, etc is ok
-Using rips to heighten the 'quality' of your map will be frowned upon

...From other user's maps...
-Using rips for fun is ok
-Flaunting them around and claiming credit is unacceptable
-Using them to look around at tags/etc, is smiled upon (as long as you move on and make your own nice quality tags soon enough)
-Using them in your map, as long as used correctly (not butchered completely, proper credit given) is alright and if they were my tags, I would be happy someone is using and enjoying the work I have done



That is all that needs to be said really, I'm sure everyone can agree with this. If not, please tell me nicely what you 'disagree' with and why.
Edited by ODX on Jul 18, 2010 at 12:46 AM


antiblood
Joined: Jul 17, 2010

Hail satan, smoke mehth


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 12:48 AM    Msg. 123 of 185       
protip faggot ive been playing hce since early '07 and what the hell makes you think your so special acting like your some tard that runs this site or something thinking you know my next post or something when youve been here for a couple months. out
Edited by antiblood on Jul 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM


007
Joined: Mar 4, 2010

FluFFy


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 12:48 AM    Msg. 124 of 185       
Agreed, and nobody gives a damn how long you've been playing you still need to grow up. Ive been playing CE as early as that yet I don't use that as an excuse to make a brainless post actually have meaning
Edited by 007 on Jul 18, 2010 at 12:52 AM


Spartan_094
Joined: Jan 8, 2008


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 12:57 AM    Msg. 125 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: antiblood

protip faggot ive been playing hce since early '07 and what the hell makes you think your so special acting like your some tard that runs this site or something thinking you know my next post or something when youve been here for a couple months. out
Edited by antiblood on Jul 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM


umad? Your looking more of a retarded by each post, thou this wingman crap aint gonna pull it.


iHalo
Joined: Dec 5, 2009

Modeling ::Royal Carribean's Oasis of the Seas::


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:02 AM    Msg. 126 of 185       
Spartan, calm your nips :/


antiblood
Joined: Jul 17, 2010

Hail satan, smoke mehth


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:02 AM    Msg. 127 of 185       
you know what, screw you and this. some one get this thread locked its bringing nothing but flameing and arguments. dennis its nice to inform ppl about whatever ripping but the hce community getting over ripping and resolving it is just a pipedream.
Edited by antiblood on Jul 18, 2010 at 01:07 AM


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:11 AM    Msg. 128 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: ODX

...From Halo 2/3/ODST/Reach...
-Using rips for fun is ok
-Flaunting rips is unacceptable
-Using rips to learn things like uvw, shaders, animations, etc is ok
-Using rips to heighten the 'quality' of your map will be frowned upon

...From other user's maps...
-Using rips for fun is ok
-Flaunting them around and claiming credit is unacceptable
-Using them to look around at tags/etc, is smiled upon (as long as you move on and make your own nice quality tags soon enough)
-Using them in your map, as long as used correctly (not butchered completely, proper credit given) is alright and if they were my tags, I would be happy someone is using and enjoying the work I have done



That is all that needs to be said really, I'm sure everyone can agree with this. If not, please tell me nicely what you 'disagree' with and why.
.


LOOK, VALUABLE DISCUSSION MATERIAL. NOW CUT THE CRAP, GIVE ME YOUR OPINIONS ON WHETHER I'M RIGHT OR WRONG IN ANY WAY WHAT SO EVER, THANKS.


007
Joined: Mar 4, 2010

FluFFy


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:13 AM    Msg. 129 of 185       
Your such a hipocrite almost everything you say you are. You've tried to blame Spartan for the wingman fail yet you've done it yourself, you claim ripping doesn't make the community any better but your Internet tough guy attitude makes it worse, and the fact you are a hipocrite makes you a little immature child. I'd rather see rippers who make the community a better place then making custom content because the ripper actually improves something. Grow Up or get out. Kid

/offtopic

I agree ODX
Edited by 007 on Jul 18, 2010 at 01:14 AM
Edited by 007 on Jul 18, 2010 at 01:16 AM


antiblood
Joined: Jul 17, 2010

Hail satan, smoke mehth


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:17 AM    Msg. 130 of 185       
omg your such a child you, you dont get it do you. im not a internet tough guy. im not a wingman. im not a child. i am simply me. dont like me? well i dont give a damn. just i can be a hypocrit and screw up previous posts ive had but you know what i do it all the time and i dont care what you think. her i am saying this is pointless and there you are flaming me. Kid chill out and go buy a freezie or something. get outta the house. go play, idc what time it is. take 10 pain killers, it helps me relax. do something, and what is this about you hating custom content? technicaly ripped content in custom you know and please explain to us all how rippers make this community better


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:23 AM    Msg. 131 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: antiblood
...and please explain to us all how rippers make this community better
Have you seen a fellow named CAD? He messes with rips, a lot, but look at all the crap he can do.
Shows how this old engine can still do lots of cool things, which inspires us all to try something new.

Rippers learn quite a bit about UV Wrapping/etc etc as well, and other nice things like shaders which can then in turn be used for people making content themselves.



The only thing I hate about them, is when they flaunt them around and show them in 'WIP' threads, when there's no progress to be showing. THAT pisses me off.


007
Joined: Mar 4, 2010

FluFFy


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:23 AM    Msg. 132 of 185       
I don't hate custom content I hate people with thought patterns like yourself. Ripping is only bad when the ripper doesn't give credit, Ríps without permission And/or brags about it. That's the rippers fault not the ripping. It also doesn't stop any newer people that could make custom content because it was their decisión to rip
Edited by 007 on Jul 18, 2010 at 01:25 AM


Alder250
Joined: Jul 11, 2010

The last enemy that shall be destroyed is Death.


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:24 AM    Msg. 133 of 185       
Jeez simma down now.


antiblood
Joined: Jul 17, 2010

Hail satan, smoke mehth


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:31 AM    Msg. 134 of 185       
lmao odx never thought of that though some models are ripped with uvs. 007 how hard was that to tell your opinion on ripping and just flame people poorly. congrats your growing. i hate ripping because its not creative. i do love the rippers excuses for ripping. those are entertaining.


007
Joined: Mar 4, 2010

FluFFy


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:35 AM    Msg. 135 of 185       
I posted my opinion before I even replied to you, and it was a poor flame because I have no intention of flaming just point out how poorly your flaming is; but I'll take what you said in a nice way <3


Spartan_094
Joined: Jan 8, 2008


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 01:41 AM    Msg. 136 of 185       


Do something useful for this place then come back instead of attempting to troll.


Alder250
Joined: Jul 11, 2010

The last enemy that shall be destroyed is Death.


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 05:13 PM    Msg. 137 of 185       
Whats the point of arguing with each other if it doesn't accomplish a thing? There isn't a law on the forums that states that ripping games is illegal. Of course in the real world, outside of the virtual world, there are laws that is against ripping such games. If people want to do it, let them. Some might know barely anything of how to create such animations, model making, etc; but they would prefer doing somewhat of a quicker way in doing things.

Some arguments are good in giving people an insight of how it all works. It gives the person the idea of how they want to create or rip things based on their attitude on getting it down and accomplished.

Trolling each other like a bunch of children, however, is immature and would be taken less seriously.

I'm not saying that I'm on the side of the rippers, I'm just creating some center peace from both sides.


DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 05:48 PM    Msg. 138 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: Alder250
Whats the point of arguing with each other if it doesn't accomplish a thing? There isn't a law on the forums that states that ripping games is illegal. Of course in the real world, outside of the virtual world, there are laws that is against ripping such games. If people want to do it, let them. Some might know barely anything of how to create such animations, model making, etc; but they would prefer doing somewhat of a quicker way in doing things.

Some arguments are good in giving people an insight of how it all works. It gives the person the idea of how they want to create or rip things based on their attitude on getting it down and accomplished.

Trolling each other like a bunch of children, however, is immature and would be taken less seriously.

I'm not saying that I'm on the side of the rippers, I'm just creating some center peace from both sides.


Spartan has been messing with rips, I really doubt he is learning anything from them if he is just doing half-ass effort in porting them to games to he can get a crowd of users to stand behind him while people who actually have creative effort can bring up valid points as to why he should do something original for once. And he justs responds with a crappy image macro or tries to get his personal army to assist him, after he feeds them false opinions of us. Or he just says "k" or some other simple post in an attempt to publicly display that we have no effect on his ways, usually by something along the lines of "i dont care" such as when he stated "they are just pixels on a screen, no one cares" and such.

If spartan was truly ripping for the learning experience, he would have stopped ripping ages ago and he would have actually made something that isn't based on someone else's work.


Also, recently I -repped spartan094 for his constant flaunting of rips on modacity, and his first response to me was to -rep me back and threaten that he would report me to Ghost for "rep abuse" the same way he reported choking victom and shadowspartan.
Edited by DEEhunter on Jul 18, 2010 at 05:50 PM


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 06:01 PM    Msg. 139 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: Alder250
Whats the point of arguing with each other if it doesn't accomplish a thing? There isn't a law on the forums that states that ripping games is illegal. Of course in the real world, outside of the virtual world, there are laws that is against ripping such games. If people want to do it, let them. Some might know barely anything of how to create such animations, model making, etc; but they would prefer doing somewhat of a quicker way in doing things.

Some arguments are good in giving people an insight of how it all works. It gives the person the idea of how they want to create or rip things based on their attitude on getting it down and accomplished.

Trolling each other like a bunch of children, however, is immature and would be taken less seriously.

I'm not saying that I'm on the side of the rippers, I'm just creating some center peace from both sides.

I don't think you get quite what halomaps is. Since the release of HEK+, you've been able to open the maps data and rip the tags out. Now there is also the protection part of this, which allows you to protect. This broke the community into 2 groups; People who think ripping is ok, and don't protect, and the people protect becuase "i made this, i dont want others to have it".

Personally, I could care less if its protected or not. That might be becuase I just make my own crap, or I can just ask the person who made it through pm, xfire, etc. I've seen my work been ripped before and made it to lots of other crap. I actually find it rather nice to see them rip it, it just shows they like it out of the tons of other maps.

Threads like these however do get very harsh, and trolling in them do occur. Halomaps is made of lots of retards that most likely haven't even hit puberty yet, so you should expect that from them. The best to is to stay out of there way and lit them beat the crap out of each other.


Mythril
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Screenshot Guru
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Joined: Mar 29, 2008

Jeffrey Albert Waldo


Posted: Jul 18, 2010 06:16 PM    Msg. 140 of 185       
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
Quote: --- Original message by: Alder250
Whats the point of arguing with each other if it doesn't accomplish a thing? There isn't a law on the forums that states that ripping games is illegal. Of course in the real world, outside of the virtual world, there are laws that is against ripping such games. If people want to do it, let them. Some might know barely anything of how to create such animations, model making, etc; but they would prefer doing somewhat of a quicker way in doing things.

Some arguments are good in giving people an insight of how it all works. It gives the person the idea of how they want to create or rip things based on their attitude on getting it down and accomplished.

Trolling each other like a bunch of children, however, is immature and would be taken less seriously.

I'm not saying that I'm on the side of the rippers, I'm just creating some center peace from both sides.

I actually find it rather nice to see them rip it, it just shows they like it out of the tons of other maps.

This. I'd feel honoured if someone would rip my map- it shows that it's good enough for them to want it.

 
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