I was being sarcastic.
M$ is a cashcow. Everyone wants money. Deal with it.

Yeah... becuase most of them were made in cooperation with Bungie.

Halo Wars sucked, most of the new books suck (Cole protocol) and Halo Legends sucked except for a couple of the episodes.

They were all released under 343 Industries. If it continues it will make halo look worse.

And yes, Microsoft is a cashcow, if you haven't realize yet. Almost everything they sell or advertise with Xbox and its games are made to get cash in someway.

Thank you for that information now I'm going take that information and put into a folder and label it " Top Secret". Then I'm going take that folder and place in a filing cabinet also name "Top Secret" because everybody know thats best security to date.
Edited by RevolutionaryCaptain on Jul 2, 2010 at 08:45 PM

Arteen, This gave me the best laugh I had all week and what made it even better was that most people didn't even get it. A+

oh yeah just somthing to also cheer you up, rember how halo 2 live closed. well for all you people who own halo 3, some matches in match making will also be sut down due to the Release of Reach.

Nothing special, I'd much rather see new playlists for Reach than Halo 3.

You have an awful taste in games. Nearly everyone I talk to loves Halo Wars. You probably played the campaign once and barely tried to do anything else wise.

I liked Cole Protocol and Contact Harvest (for the record, both of those were approved by Bungie derp) and I thought half of Legends was entertaining.

WELL NO DUH SHERLOCK. The point of a corporation/company is to MAKE PROFIT AND EARN MONEY. They know people will buy it and in the end they have to make their products good for people to buy in the future. I look forward to playing the Halo games by 343 because they have a professionally decent staff and have had some experience with the Halo world. The only components they are missing from Bungie (that would handicap them without it) are the story and concept writers. In other words, they have complete potential to make great games and in no way should the cashcow factor be nearly a reason not to think so.

Your an idiot, seriously.

Halo wars gameplay was bad. I played through the single player and a bit of multiplayer. I still enjoy the soundtrack from the game to this day, along with bits and pieces of its small story.

I read half of the Cole Protocol and found it very bad, and decided just to let it go. Writing was bad, characters were uninteresting, same with story. Contact Harvest was pretty decent. Halo Evolutions, the newest book, was bad though as well. The story's were meh. (My favorite book out of all of them is First Strike). Just becuase they are approved by bungie, does not mean there automatically good.

Most of Halo Legends crap was pretty bad. I only found the episode's Origins 1 & 2 to be very entertaining. Most of the other ones, not so much.

Also, just becuase they have a willing team of professionals, still does not automatically give them the say : We are creating the best game ever becuase we work on games in the industry and we are working on Halo.

I don't think you get that almost every game studio has the same elements of development like Bungie. Any developer is able to create a crappy game or good game. It depends on there time, effort, and passion into whats making that game run.
Edited by Higuy on Jul 2, 2010 at 11:02 PM

Halo Wars, if they did a CGI movie I would be more impressed seeing the rendering was awesome and that's the only thing that caught my eye seeing I followed it since 2006 only to be disappointed later.

Rendering >> Awesome
Game Play >> no


But it's a matter of opinion and I hope you both should know that instead of bickering who is right. It's an opinion you both have on Halo Wars and the 2 books. But express it and flame each other for it if you wish.

Darkhalo... Drop it...

Your making yourself look really bad.
Kinda like a hardcore fanboy perhapse?
Lol, if you like microsoft and the way they make 'money' then sir, I must say:
your still a kid and you don't understand life yet. ;)

Honestly, I'm not buying another Halo (unless Bungie DOES pick it back up in the future.) I'm a hardcore bungie fan more than a halo fan, as Myth was the second video game I ever played, Marathon being the fifth.

It shouldn't fail if they plan on remaking h1, or h2. unless they change alot like halo reach's failshee.

never remake a game. its a bad idea.

Does anyone think the animations in most of the new FPS games such as Bad company and medal of honor? i honestly squirm when i see the moving animations for most of the weapons.

The worst Halo game I've ever played? Halo 2.


I loved Halo Wars. I found the game to be a lot of fun.


I enjoyed them. Honestly, I think Nylund's works contain the most cringe-worthy stuff. The less said about First Strike's time-travelling magic space crystal, the better.


I liked Origins, Odd One Out, and the premise of Homecoming, but otherwise, yes, Legends was pretty bad both story-wise and art-wise.


343i has done a more than what you've said, and I don't. Waypoint is cool. Both motion comics were enjoyable, and they also have some exclusive machinima from Rooster Teeth. They are also responsible for Blood Line and Helljumpers, which are better than the mostly-terrible HGN and the oft-delayed and unfulfilling Uprising comics.

Basically, the Halo franchise is as hit-and-miss as it's always been, for me at least.

I like Halo. Microsoft annoys the daylights out of me because they charge too much for their services. I don't consider 343 Industries as Microsoft. My argument originally backed up 343 as being a potentially good team. It then degraded down to the cashcow stuff. My points aren't revolving around Microsoft; they were revolving around 343 making new, good Halo games.

If my posts are making me look bad, then obviously those thinking it don't know me well enough to understand that I don't go with the crowds on some things. It's called becoming an individual with my own ideas. I'm not saying that yours are wrong, but I am saying that people over exaggerate about Microsoft being a cashcow this far.


I agree with these, but I do think that Legends has two more good ones (The Babysitter and Ghost).
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Jul 3, 2010 at 09:17 AM

I loved Halo 2 tbh, I love the story it tells and most of the multiplayer maps were well made and were fun IMO.

ya what higuy said i sat and played the campaign ten times.

2 on legendary to get all the skulls. lets say go for sputnik first not blackeye or cowbell -_-. then go for grunt b-day party :D

ICEE would murder you for saying that. Those animations are actually fairly well made and it's just how the guy(s) at DICE animate. It works, it's really stylistic, and although I'm as fond of them as ICEE is I still find them to do the job and fit well into the game. Same animations are used for this new Medal of Honor (which just looks like BC2 [well, it is the same engine] with modern [competitive] Call of Duty multiplayer).

I was mostly, like I said, looking towards F3AR and Bioshock.
F3AR has the worst origins and just everything I've ever seen in a 'professional' game. Sure it's a new developer but there's no excuse for it. Honestly, it looks like the animator is freakin' brand new, like he didn't even go through college and get a degree. They probably did pick him up off the streets or something.

Bioshock also suffers with one of the worst animators I've ever seen. Lacks any proper timing, realism, ANYTHING. It's just ridiculously robotic and OVERDONE to a point that I cry.

Wannnn it's a game. Bioshock even isn't supposed to be real. Fear 3, who gives a crap about focusing that much on FP animations, there's a TON more to look at then just the fp animations, story line, game play. Quit whining unless you want to send them a freakin email whining about the fp animations.

I agree. One of my favorite things about FEAR was the animations, their timing was almost always spot on; when I see this F3AR stuff it makes me feel horrible for even saying I was a fan of the game.

Yeah, it's a game, with people who are professionals working on it.

So why then, could I easily animate better than some of the people who are working on top-notch games like the ones I mentioned? It's just sad, and don't give me that "it's just one part of the game" because it's an important one and screwing it over that badly is just ridiculous especially when you're supposed to be a professional at what you're doing.

Edit: Yeah I know of the possibility that it isn't actually their main art and perhaps they're just a 3p animator and had to do FP but it's still a little sad.
Edited by ODX on Jul 3, 2010 at 01:53 PM

I want cashcow then :D

/irrelevant
Edited by Megaguirus on Jul 3, 2010 at 01:31 PM

Halowars was fun.

you guys sound like a bunch of angry fan boys. calm down. and about the FP animations? are you seriously getting mad at that. come on just enjoy the game. stop having nerdgasams everytime you se a flaw in the devlepoment of the game.

Unfortunately for me if a game has terrible fp animations I don't bother to play it just because I can't stand looking at them all the time X_x
It completely kills gameplay for me too and the feel of all the weapons to a point that I don't care anymore.

I tried not to make a big deal about it, and just pointed it out lightly but everyone's biting my ass about it now.

Even though Bungie LLC has stopped working on the Halo series, it will most likely be continued by the other company.

I really can't think of any good games with noticeably, needlessly bad animations. I've noticed bad animations from here, though.


I'm not seeing 'endless creativity' here, no offense. The most impressive stuff I've seen here is just copying from later Halo games. Sure, you could say that stuff like Yoyorast Island is creative, but that's not the sort of map Bungie would make in the first place, so it's a bad comparison. I can't think of anything that beats Bungie at its own game, so to speak. I'm not sure there's much that's even on par with Bungie.

I get BC and medal of honor mixed up. i just had a look at BC gameplay and they aren't bad. i forgot to mention fallout 3.

Edited by biernacki90 on Jan 26, 2012 at 09:23 PM

The whole point of Halo Wars is to try and make a console RTS.

Not to mention the game has good controls. Anyone who cries about not having hot keys needs to seriously get over it. I played Age of Empires on PC for a long time and never once used a hot key. It was probably the most fun I've had in a game too.

Highly competitive players playing highly competitive RTS games require hotkeys. Though you may not have needed them, I can recall many instances in which I've needed hotkeys in order to facilitate simultaneous retreats and ambushes, as well as provide fire support ad reinforcements. I'm not saying that Halo Wars wasn't / isn't a fun game, nor am I saying that hotkeys are required to make it fun, but hotkeys are an essential part of competitive strategy gaming.