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Douchebag.

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My head hurts....

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It is one that has had the most work and effort put into it, sure, but does that make it a good map? Especially trying to one up the original b30 with the name "evolved". But if you knew what it really could be instead of what it is now, surely you would agree. Let's begin.

Let's start with the BSP design. Being one of the people behind the scenes, I watched the entirety of the development process. The BSP was designed to be linear. They went back and added that cave system after people like myself started complaining that you couldn't explore the beaches freely. All it does is add confusion because you have an intersection of random tunnels going throughout the island. Now the over all design isn't bad on its own , but to call this an "evolution" from the original is a joke. It has become impossible to rally back to the beginning of the island for reinforcements, and it isn't as simple as going to the coast to look for ammo and supplies.

The visuals. Now Bob did an amazing job on all of the assets. They're great. However it doesn't match the abomination of a theme they went for with the BSP and scenery. The BSP has a good model, but all of the textures and poor shader usage makes it look bland and stale. Almost like a desert mixed with a forest. This is supposed to be a tropical island, and there is no reminiscent of mood from the original b30 or b30 anniversary. Combine that with the unfitting stock Halo trees and logs and this is what you get. In the original b30, bungie made a specific set of environmental assets for the island, as they did with almost every other level. However this mod pulls those assets from every map halo has, making it just look odd. I know how much work went into the lighting, the interiors look okay for up-res'd halo 1 textures and bumps. The outside looks grey and flat, bump maps are entirely absent which is the point of DLM's.

Pacing. So let's jump into the very first battle. We are instantly introduced with a mosh pit of grunts, jackals, brutes, elites, turrets, etc. what fun is this? CMT has always had this problem of wanting to make the first beach encounter a chaotic mess. This is not the control room, it's the map center. Why on earth is such a huge army here? And if there had to be one, spread it out a bit. The brutes at least should have been entirely absent until the "brute pool" at the mid section of the map. That would have been a great introduction. And again, CMT (including masters here) has this problem of throwing elites and brutes together EVERYWHERE. When the hell did these factions ever fight in the same squad? They don't. It's not friendly to the lore and its unorganized and chaotic. The encounters seem basic and unthought out. There are just piles of all types of AI everywhere.

This mod would have worked better as its own product. Not b30 and not an "evolved" version of it. It's devolved. B30 was amazing for what it is, it never needed big vehicle battle sections or sniper rifles. I give credit to the team, as we all know it took a lot of work, but all these things I mentioned were flat out ignored when brought up.

Some of the stuff within the map itself is cool(assets, new script functions, etc). But it doesn't make the map as a whole a good map. Hokiebird (wish he was here) abruptly quit the team because of the continuos ignorance of the team, to which the team replied "LOL" pretty much. Hokiebird knows what makes a good encounters and it shows in (some) of SPV3, way more so then in B30 E.

I highly recommend you play the classic SPV3 b30. I had a ton of fun with the AI, the encounters were well made, and the thought and effort into it shows. (For example, once you get to the map room section every elite is an honor guard).

I typed this from my phone so I apologize for any mistakes. I just hope the remakes are done after SPV3. Why couldn't b30 evolved be its own thing? Why did it have to be a remake of b30? This question remains unanswered.
Edited by Ki11erFTW on Jun 29, 2016 at 09:01 PM

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SPV3 will be there with the second half of the campaign!

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Halomaps? Idiot, users post this, not the website itself. (facepalm on over 9000 levels)
Edited by darkrider400 on Jan 8, 2015 at 10:42 PM

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Seriously. It's as simple as checking a box... "avoids friendly lines of fire" or whatever...It's right there...And now that you know the problem how to fix it you could do it real quick... Like 10 seconds in guerilla...That's it...Simple...No?..Kay -_-...

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What? There was a Carbine in a50.