Here is what i think,

CMT got it right, the needler ammo is put in the top and is pressed by the bottom handle, makeing the spikes.The diffrence imbetween the CMT version and mine is that the needler ammo HAS to be put somewhere neer the base (where the neeles stick out) and placed where the handle is, not in a dish imn the lid.

Does anyone REALY know how the needler reloads?


Edited by SlappyThePirate on Nov 20, 2009 at 04:34 PM

Maybe... there's a slot... in the bottom, under the handle? That area doesn't seem used...

Possibly just the motion of a downward push, and a squezze of a handle or something.

Well the way Bungie did it, I'm going to throw out my guess that it's a regenerable crystal that just needs a little shake/movement/press of a button, to activate it and have it do it's job.

Rapid freezing.

The little ammo thing gets put into the top(that rapidly melts the ammo) and sprays it out the top, freezing it as it goes out of the holes.

idk

Check out the CMT anim for it.
Or just magic.

I always thought the crystal would be like, malleable, and get squeezed out into the holes, then after all the shots are done, it would regenerate or something, but personally, I liked CMT's reload animation better because it made more sense.

IT'S MAGIC!!! :D

Just like the shotgun in Marathon, it has a mechanism that is too complex for your simple mind to understand :P





Another question to ponder about the Needler: How do it's projectiles track their targets?
Edited by SiMuLaCrUm on Nov 23, 2009 at 05:42 PM

Magic!!! Well that was fun what's the next question?

Um, I always thought the clip was sort of like a revolver style clip, with all the spikes rotating within the clip.

this is the correct answer guys

A couple of things specified in Guerilla C:

radiation sensors

and about the spiker, I think it is like a machine-gun, when one spike leaves, the next one locks into position to be fired.

Welcome to videos games, and 500 years in the future.

Really, videos games are not supposed to be real-life simulators, they are meant for fun, and Halo does a good job at that. Why go further and try to ruin it by comparing it's things to real life and questioning the way things work? Just freakin' enjoy it and shut up.

Although, some of these ideas are bringing a chuckle to me.

It uses H4X.

Its auctually a growing crystal found of JAHBEEBEE , a planet in the OMG Galaxy.
Which is NORT Light-years away. You slot the crystal into the lower part of the weapon , where radiation emitters allow the crystal to germinate , and then grow. Once this is done , they grow out of the holes in the needler , where they mature. Due to the lack of appropriate environment , they stop growing once they stick out of the needler. The radiaton emitters stop working when the gun is loaded , and they work when its reloading. The gun fires , by firing an anti-gravity field into the loading area , where the crystals attempt to seek the closest moving object with a center of gravity which is not constant with the environment , as they have negative weight. This would normally be the shooter , but the field propels them forward , so they find the next best target.
Explains how the crystals reload , how they track and why they home in on the closest target.

Plasma is an ionized gas; as you know, an atom is made of protons, electrons, and neutrons.
With the Needler using a type of capsule filled with { whatever is in it, cause I don't know what } is loaded in...

The substance that the crystals could possibly be made of could contain, or be, an isotope of an unknown element. Since it is nearly the composition of bone in a normal living body, and unstable, it could emit beta particles, which have a charge, and also could be directed by plasma that has attached itself to the energy, because it also has a charge that could be attracted to the emission, seeks out "like" substances (the bone in a living organism).

The element could have a weight and mass equal to or less than Air.

The firing mechanism could be a plasma-battery that agitates the element by making it gain heat and eject itself from an airtight opening (the barrel/front of the Needler). When it does leave the needler, the charge of the beta particles encase themselves in plasma, which then attracts the entire projectile, which then seeks out the "like" substance of its choice (Possibly being bone in a living body.), which then attaches itself to the victim, which then it dig into the victim until it comes in direct contact with with the "like" substance. From there it could ionized the bone of the victim causing it to half life into another substance (maybe explosive substance) which explodes when the body sends one of its electrical pulses, or refuses to do so because it is attracted to another airborne projectile (another needle), It will recieve critical mass with the others and cause the explosion.
Quarks darn spelling errors......
This is all theoretical nuclear chemistry I think, just an opinion.
Edited by OrangeJuice on Nov 23, 2009 at 09:57 PM
Edited by OrangeJuice on Nov 23, 2009 at 09:59 PM

then why does it run out of ammo?

mafia: You can't have a remote-controlled car battery that lasts for a thousand millenniums, same goes for the needler.

My guess is that pressing a button makes the crystal currently loaded dissolve/vanish away and then another button to load the new crystal to the top.

does not explain why someone holding a needler is not immune to needle homing

Maybe the needles interact with the HUD to find out which organisms are enemies.

or maybe what ODX said.

put it ingame, make the rounds travel slower than you can walk, then step in front of it. see if it chases you.

and wow to the guy with the quark thing

E: do you guys really want to understand how it works? alright, i dont know how many of you will be able to follow this, so bear with me.
we have a variable for ammo. every time you click the fire button, a projectile with predefined properties is instantiated at a predefined point, the barrel of the weapon. when this variable hits 0, an animation is played where various predefined 3d elements intersect with each other to, in this case, give the impression of being reloaded.

as for tracking, we have 3 axes, x y and z. everything moves in these 3 axes. when a needler round is fired, it makes degree angle of predefined magnitude facing its local north. any object of predefined class BIPED within this angle becomes a target. next we use the range equation to figure out how far away said object is, and we use a method known as ray casting to see if there is any object that is not of class BIPED. it draws a ray from the xyz origin of the needle's local north to the detected xyz of the BIPED. if theres anything in the way, it does not deviate from the current flight path. if something is detected, the needle now rotates at a rate no greater than another predefined variable. if it cannot bank sharply enough to hit said BIPED, then it goes off.

while this is all happening, yet another variable tracks the distance the needle has traveled. once it has traveled a predefined number of VARIABLE units, is destroys itself, and removes its instance from the world.

thus, ladies and gentlemen, the life cycle of the needle.
Edited by Donut on Nov 24, 2009 at 03:41 PM

Maybe it interacts through brainwaves or something. If you tell it it's an enemy, it homes in on it.

Antigens, similar to what the immune system uses could explain how it only explodes when in contact with living tissue. However, this would inaccurately (and ignorantly) presume that every living being in the entire universe operates on the same means that life on Earth operates on. Which to Carl Sagan and myself is absurd.



Helium, hydrogen... the list goes on with elements that have a smaller atomic weight than oxygen and anything else found in the air on Earth and any Earth-like planet. All those elements (1-8 on the Periodic Table) are all known elements. The only unknown ones are the extremely heavy ones. Hydrogen is the lightest element known (1 proton in its nucleus) and it only enters a solid state at extremely low temperatures. So saying it is an unknown element is nonsense.
Edited by SiMuLaCrUm on Nov 24, 2009 at 03:56 PM

That simply means it isn't an element. It could still be an unknown substance formed through the bonding of known element or better yet made of unknown, or special cominations of know subatomic particals. We must also consider unknown states of matter and their properties in the form of known/unknown elements and particles. There's also the ever complicated concept of "anti-gravity" and its effects on matter.


/nerd :B

Note that air doesn't mean oxygen.

Someone holding a needler is still affected by the needles attempting to seek out the closest moving object with a weight that is not constant with the environment. Even if he/she were holding a needler , the anti-gravity field is only projected within the needler , and then only when it was firing.
Edited by Cocaine on Nov 24, 2009 at 09:14 PM

But of course if your firing at yourself, its point blank. I like the idea of Needle interacting with your hud.

yeah, and the needler reticle would turn red lol.

I only thought of this idea while i was makeing a model of the needler of this tutorial (im almost finished). I couldent find a way TO reload so I did a LOT of reserch and still nothing. so i callled on other halo addicts who could possibly know. Even looking at the reloading animations useing bluestreak i cant find a way, it looks like random movements with chiefs arms.

Here is the tutorial to make the model needler

http://www.instructables.com/id/Halo_3_Needler/
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Nov 27, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Of course. And that's why I think the needler is one of the most creative weapons I've seen. :P

How does it reload? well when a male and female needler really like each other.............

Maybe it only reloads in our minds. :P