
ChocolateNugget
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
im your #1 fan !!
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 01:41 PM
Msg. 1 of 83
As quoted from my partner in the project, Yodajammies: Well, I teased at it a couple months ago, but here it is. The progress thread for the first suit of armor robotically milled on a CNC table, and then molded and cast as per traditional methods. Huge props go out to Nugget for his phenomenal speed and skill in 3d modeling. This project could have never succeeded without his expertise and knowledge. Minor shoutouts go to Vrogy for his CNC advising at the shop, and general all around snarkiness. (I hear he is milling a marine suit. oh exciting!) Being a WIP thread, I figure I'll cover the basic process and procedure for anyone looking to explore this method of armor building. D'con is right around the corner, so I'll be spending an inordinate amount of time in the shop trying to get this done. My hope is that I can pull several full suit casts for trade at the con. (I'm looking at you Adam. I want one of those assualt rifles) Alright! Lets get started - First, our own resident modeling virtuoso Nugget builds the 3d file which will get interpreted into G-code for the ShopBot CNC.  Next I take the 3d data and use it to develop G-code that the CNC actually uses to cut the part.  So then we get to the actual milling! My new favorite shop toy (can you guess what it's cutting?)  For this project I used MDF as my milling material. It can't hold nearly the detail I imagined it could, but it cheap and abundant. Later down the line I may take a page out of Legendary Armor's book and use a high density urethane foam for milling. I've played around with a couple samples of it, and although the stuff is 4-5 times the price of MDF board, the resolution capable of being captured on the first past is fantastic. So now we have a wooden master which looks a little something like this. The top cut is using a 11% stepover on the finishing path, whereas the bottom is stepping over 20%. You can see how much of a difference this makes to the finish of the final piece.  Now we go about making a "scrap mold" of this piece to produce a plastic copy for clean up. This is the extra step required to achieve the level of detail we can't get by using MDF. After sealing, priming, molding, casting, and doing a bit of clean up, we come to the final, moldable master. (please excuse the crappy cellphone image)  Now we are ready to mold the final piece and start production of these high quality handplates. Take a look at the differences between the preliminary mdf cut and the sanded secondary. It could use a little more TLC, but my production schedule is tight and I need to keep the ball rolling.   And now we come to painting and detailing. The plates first recieve a nice heavy coat of primer. I cannot stress enough how critical primer is to achieving a stellar paintjob on your armor. Next I laid down a coat of brushed steel. I'm going with a Colonial Red in honor of my alma mater - North Carolina State University. Go wolf pack. Yadda yadda yadda. I believe it was Thorisill who introduced the "Condiment Painting" technique here on the boards, and I decided to give it a test run on a pair of plates. I decided to go with a nice Kraft Ranch here, and I the results turned out quite nicely, or at least passable for the first attempt.      Finally, I'm using a basic black acrylic to add some filth to the final piece. Similar to the "panty hose and black spraypaint technique", but I've found that acrylic is a little easier to work with, and to edit in case you make a mistake or change your mind about how you want the final piece to look. I am no painter, and my technique is still fledgling, but I can see the potential for a fairly nice paintjob in this method. By the time I get to the final piece of the suit, I should have it down pat.   Now of course I haven't just finished one measly piece in 3 months. There are many irons in the fire, but I can tease with a couple other parts I have been chipping away at. Here is a prototype arm piece, the preliminary cod (or penis plate as Nugget calls it), and a test cut BR. Enjoy!     If you have any questions or comments feel free to post them here. :)
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DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 01:53 PM
Msg. 2 of 83
l2 subdiv model
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Azrooh
Joined: Dec 15, 2007
Bleh.
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 01:57 PM
Msg. 3 of 83
Quote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter l2 subdiv model That was a very well thought out and necessary post! At OP: I like it!
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 01:58 PM
Msg. 4 of 83
whoaaa cool.
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DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 02:12 PM
Msg. 5 of 83
Quote: --- Original message by: AzroohQuote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter l2 subdiv model That was a very well thought out and necessary post! At OP: I like it! thnx man.
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UnevenElefant5
Joined: May 3, 2008
its been fun yall, i'll never forget this site :')
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 02:24 PM
Msg. 6 of 83
Wow.
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stennett
Joined: Dec 4, 2008
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 03:01 PM
Msg. 7 of 83
whoa. that's epic! i want that armour! lol..
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Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005
"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 03:39 PM
Msg. 8 of 83
Please keep us updated on how the project progresses. This s very nice work.
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
actual loli
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 04:04 PM
Msg. 9 of 83
How much to they cost? :D!
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pwner5889
Joined: Jun 13, 2008
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 04:05 PM
Msg. 10 of 83
Nice, now all that needs to be done is to make an actualy warthog without the turret. That would PWN riding that thing down the highway lol.
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Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 04:17 PM
Msg. 11 of 83
I dont think a Warthog made out of CNC materials would work...
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Ninjadude
Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 04:45 PM
Msg. 12 of 83
This is indeed a super project. EDIT: I searched D-con Nugget and it says its canceled... http://www.duluthcon.com/ This is very sad news. Please verify it, and it's implications on the project Edited by Ninjadude on Jun 17, 2009 at 04:55 PM
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ChocolateNugget
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
im your #1 fan !!
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 04:52 PM
Msg. 13 of 83
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo How much to they cost? :D! A lot.
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Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 05:00 PM
Msg. 14 of 83
Dcon is Dragon Con
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ChocolateNugget
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
im your #1 fan !!
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 05:03 PM
Msg. 15 of 83
I have no idea what Duluthcon is. Obviously not very popular, amirite?
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Ninjadude
Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 05:07 PM
Msg. 16 of 83
That's good then. Thanks.
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Cocaine
Joined: Mar 2, 2009
Can't stop napping.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 12:23 AM
Msg. 17 of 83
+rep for Nugget.
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Bloody Jabs
Joined: Apr 7, 2009
It's been 4 years...
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 12:41 AM
Msg. 18 of 83
Quote: --- Original message by: ChocolateNugget Obviously not very popular, amirite? So much win.
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Ninjadude
Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 02:42 AM
Msg. 19 of 83
CNC Frags?
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ChocolateNugget
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
im your #1 fan !!
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 03:32 PM
Msg. 20 of 83
We've thought about it. We're most likely going to be doing a shotgun as well.
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Ninjadude
Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 03:48 PM
Msg. 21 of 83
Awesome
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Headhunter09
Joined: May 6, 2008
This is the truth.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 04:05 PM
Msg. 22 of 83
Quote: --- Original message by: pwner5889 Nice, now all that needs to be done is to make an actualy warthog without the turret. That would PWN riding that thing down the highway lol. Has already been done. I imagine the turret could be removed.
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FlyAwayNow
Joined: May 10, 2009
Triage at Dawn
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 05:02 PM
Msg. 23 of 83
I just wish You could find a metal BR that actully works. And i dont think that will be street legal.
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shadowslayer123
Joined: Feb 22, 2009
Not the american average
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 06:06 PM
Msg. 24 of 83
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jacknme
Joined: Aug 29, 2008
If you see this, you must be in an old topic
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 04:18 AM
Msg. 25 of 83
Quote: --- Original message by: soviet dude this is swet as hell, but
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WHY? The same reason why people make maps for halo ce
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Nexus Halo
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
Halo's Dark Knight http://www.nexushalo.kk5.org/
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 04:41 AM
Msg. 26 of 83
If you ever mass produce them and start selling them to people I totally want one. MC green though.
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ChocolateNugget
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
im your #1 fan !!
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 06:24 AM
Msg. 27 of 83
Wish we could, but because of MS's rules, we can't. :(
Although you can buy, er, excuse me, trade something such as money for a set of armor. :)
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UnevenElefant5
Joined: May 3, 2008
its been fun yall, i'll never forget this site :')
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 12:09 PM
Msg. 28 of 83
Seriously, if you had the warthog, then it would be pretty cool to drive around wearing that armor, and holding the BR and stuff :P
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RougeSpartan414
Joined: Sep 24, 2007
Angatar, the Iron-Father.
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 01:01 PM
Msg. 29 of 83
You can give them out for free. ;)
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Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 01:04 PM
Msg. 30 of 83
Things like this take time. And nugget told me its "for trade".
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Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 04:20 PM
Msg. 31 of 83
ChocolateNugget, find out what you would need to do to sell these without MS having anything to do with it. If you call it "Haalo" armour, or w/e it takes to eliminate MS from your profits.
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Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 04:24 PM
Msg. 32 of 83
Or call it armor of Sparta.
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Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 04:28 PM
Msg. 33 of 83
Just get a layer to figure out what would enable MS to claim royalties or C+D. Do something very similar to what they say not to :)
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Scott
Joined: Apr 4, 2005
No.
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Posted: Jun 20, 2009 12:01 AM
Msg. 34 of 83
Please get this crap off of halomaps.
if you wanna post this go to 405th
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UnevenElefant5
Joined: May 3, 2008
its been fun yall, i'll never forget this site :')
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Posted: Jun 20, 2009 12:07 AM
Msg. 35 of 83
Quote: --- Original message by: Scott Please get this crap off of halomaps.
if you wanna post this go to 405th It is halo related though... E: i would bet he already has a topic at the 405th Edited by UnevenElefant5 on Jun 20, 2009 at 12:07 AM
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