If anyone remembers my first ideas going into Ce, they'll remember the ice grenade. The ice grenade freezes and stuns enemy units on impact and causes vehicles to slide. I'm currently working on developing the grenade and have most of the tagging mechanics taken care of. I'll let you all know my progress as soon as my tests are complete.

cool beans

What does it look like? I'm liking this idea.

Sounds awesome, dude.

Very clever idea

Mainly I'll need new particles and figuring the vehicle sliding. I have some ideas, but nothing is definite with vehicles yet. If anyone wants to do icy particles.....

This sounds like an Epic Idea!

This sounds like an Epic Post!/sarcasm

What happens when it hits a flying vehicle?

Depends, haven't thought about it that way, but physics says the vehicle will fly into your face, so that's it. The user has to be conscientious on how to use it. There is a Rifle and the grenade itself. The Rifle has a GL attachment and the grenade is like the opposite of an incendiary.

Maybe the vehicle can shut down and the driver takes constant damage from the ice?

The vehicle can't shut down though. Otherwise the EMP burst of a plasma pistol would work in CE. I'm trying to make it to where the vehicle slides when hitting a patch of ice material from the ice grenade's explosion.

The Ice doesn't directly damage. It "freezes" the victim and you just chip away at his shields for 3 seconds while he's immobilized. He'll still be able to shoot, but I doubt he'll be able to defend against you while you're behind him and have already assassinated him. However, if I can get it to where the player cannot fire his gun while frozen, then maybe it'd work out a lot better than I'd hoped.
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Jun 8, 2009 at 06:38 PM

You could spawn scenery planes with a "ice" material in the detonation effect, so the vehicles slide. For flying vehicles, I know someone has gotten the power drainer working. Either it was Arbiter from Sigma or someone from H3MT.

Arbiter from Sigma. But they wont tell us. And spawning scenery wont sync.

I already figured out how to make the vehicles slide. You can also use bipeds as well, like the Bubble Shield of Choking Victim and give them a material of ice. Either way it's the same thing though. I'll have to ask Arby how to halt the vehicles.

could you use spawned projectiles that look like shards of ice?
and they have a damage effect attached so it stuns you and you take damage?

You can use the Spiker projectiles as ice projectiles, simply change the bitmap from yellow to white and, i THINK you can set the spikes to do continuous damage while attached, just set the damage really low, and the stun really high.
Edited by jesse on Jun 8, 2009 at 11:54 PM

Well the point of the ice grenade is to freeze people, not harm them directly. That'd make it too much of a noob weapon IMO. But whatever I use that spawns the ice material will have to have a collision geometry of ice and the explosion has to expend an ice material as well. The projectile isn't the problem, is the explosion spawning an ice material and how to make that look right.
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Jun 9, 2009 at 08:15 AM

Sounds Epic,you could Someone before he dies With this Nade!
Edited by MegaSquirrel on Jun 10, 2009 at 02:22 AM

Random question, but how long are the freezing effects supposed to last?

I think he said around 3 seconds.

Hmm, sounds kinda good. Just throwing this out there, but I don't think anywhere under 3 or above 5 should happen... I'm not exactly sure, I'd have to see it in gameplay...

Dark, you should make it like the cryoban grenade from KOTOR

All I know is that the grenade will freeze appointments between 3-5 seconds and possible halt vehicles or cause them to slide.

I hate drivin' on Ice....and now this! *sigh* This is even worse............

That's sort of the point of the grenade, also if the grenade is fired from a rife will the rife also shoot ice-based proejectiles (like sliver/blueish spiker rounds)?

You could probably use the stun property in the damage effect to slow bipeds. Dont know if it works on vehicles though.

I've taken care of how to "freeze" the other foot soldiers, but not the vehicles.

The particles should be especially interesting, not to mention game play implications.

You might be able to give the grenade negative force, so when it explodes, it pulls the vehicles towards it, slowing and/or stopping them.

Speaking of particles.....anyone care to give it a whirl?
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Jun 11, 2009 at 10:03 PM

this could have a nice effect on gameplay frezzing people but if they can still shoot how hard is it to get out of the wqay but thats only if you cant get it to where they cant shoot.

You could make it so that when shot, they would lose their shield and be unable to move, like when you board someone on h3.

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Edited by Ninjadude on Jun 12, 2009 at 02:54 AM

have you ever tried doing that?
i did and it never worked
Edited by MissingSpartan7 on Jun 12, 2009 at 04:54 AM

lol, pulling is possible?

for slowing/stopping them, you could try plasma whatever, it works on bipeds, maybe it slows vehicles too?