I'll vote for removing the rating system entirely. Whats the point of having something that's broke?

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They care enough to make a map low on the ratings apparently. Simply look at the maps. If its not spamming them, then its a collection of trolls trying to do it. Either way, its broke and being abused. Like others said, how is it even useful at this point?

I didn't have a choice. MattDratt was blackmailing me, threatening to post leaked nudes of me all over this forum. I wanted to spare this community of disgust, so I did what had to be done.

You see how Takedown is the second highest rated map? It was me. Aquarii, Foundry, and many other featured maps that MattDratt felt were competition he had me rig their votes.

I'm so tired of keeping this community safe, so go ahead MattDratt and do your worst.


Edited by raffgie on Oct 2, 2014 at 01:31 AM

Hot.
Edited by VKNG on Oct 2, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Now you're going to make me leak them though. http://fappening.mattdratt.com

The rating system is broke. Your graph shows that most people either choose a 1 or 10. This supports a like and dislike choice. I'm all for a system where the user simply likes or dislikes the map.

I want a like/dislike system. #nebulaphoobev4

YouTube ran into a similar problem years when they had videos rated on a 5 star system. They found out that a majority of the votes were either ones or fives, so they switched to the like dislike.

While I think that the like dislike system would work better here, I still don't think it's going to solve the problem. People could still abuse the like dislike system to a point where a map has a ton of dislikes compared to likes. Of course then there's the question is there a voting system people can't abuse? Personally I don't think such a system exists, so in that case it may be better to get rid of the system entirely.

The only for sure way to accurately (and I use accurately very loosely) represent a map would be to have a team of map raters or something that rate the map on a set of criteria, but then people don't get to vote on maps anymore and the rating is still subjective.

I just don't see a good solution to this problem, personally I don't think one exists. It's just about picking the best system that has the least problems.
Edited by Pepzee on Oct 2, 2014 at 11:34 PM

i agree with this rating system being broken. the only map i ever released has an 8.4 rating XD

and it was utter crap :P

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5950

what i would like to see would be a star system kinda like the one on Rfactor Central






Edited by killzone64 on Oct 2, 2014 at 11:49 PM

I fixed it, thank me later.

Either like/dislike system or remove it completely. 1-10 is unnecessary range.

One of the main reasons why people will always choose to rate either 1 or 10 is to make their vote feel influential and powerful in the back of their heads. They wan't to impact the averege rating as much as possible. And trust me, great amount of adults with high IQs do that too. They might think that the map is realistically worth of 8 but they still give it a 10 for the sake of counter-trolling.

Everyone who rates must have an account. 1 rating per account?

but then dennis would have to deal with even more spam accounts though -_-

i wonder how many of the accounts on halomaps are still regularly logged in to. my geuss is about 6-7%
Edited by killzone64 on Oct 3, 2014 at 07:03 PM

Try this http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=47191 :)

thats not gonna help.

I'm pretty sure we'd still have the same problem. People would sign up for an account, and use it to wreck havoc.

Should make it so they have to wait X amount of days, kinda like posting images. Hopefully by that time the ratings would be "true" rather then an instant spam of bad ratings by a bunch of accounts soon as it comes out.

Well there are plenty of websites with rating systems that work, and most are because the users need accounts to vote. What giraffe does is just run an app that spams the crud out of a map votes. With a simple captcha for users creating account, it could prevent spam from an app.

I'm not sure how this would work, but maybe only have an option to rate a map once you click the download button? That way it would make it more difficult for people to troll, and hopefully make the ratings more accurate.

+ 1 week delay before they can rate.

As mentioned, I think adding in a captcha system before rating would already work wonders to prevent spam-apps.

That would be quite inconvenient for people who actually want to rate a map fairly. And by fairly I do not mean unbiased. I mean for people who only want their one vote to count towards the average. A simple proxy detect would be the simple solution without making it aggravating for others. Besides that, captchas are relatively easy to solve within a few seconds. Sure it would slow down the spam, but not completely stop it.

You should not have to be a member of this forum in order to rate a map.
you should however have downloaded the map.
Download map, log ip. If ip has downloaded the map and has not rated it yet, then rating is allowed.

I don't foresee that solution being a viable one to stop spammed votes.

I think this is a good idea. But can it check if the map was fully downloaded ?

It wouldn't stop them, just add another step to the process.
The only way to stop bias is to either remove ratings or develop an internet where all users have and use manners and common courtesy.

I don't think people here care whether you vote with bias or not. I think that they care that "trolls" are spamming their biased votes.

What I mean by that is, spamming, a committee or even just Dennis rating maps.

The main problem I see is that "trolls" are allowed to spam hundreds of biased votes on a single map via proxy. I'm not saying that stopping bias is the solution, as there will always be biased ratings (Examples: the creator(s) of the map, fanboys, haters, etc).

Disallow proxies and everyone can live happy with fair biased ratings.

Edited by raffgie on Oct 4, 2014 at 01:26 PM

I think making a rating commitee with applications would be the best thing to do. After all, magazines rating games are not everyone and we know most of people would be stupidly biased.

Dennis cared about users who send screenshots, why not a rating comitee ?

Any of the things i said are bias and are not a true representation of the user base.

Aren't you the reason we even need to have this thread? I doubt to many other people really affect the rating system.

Sure, I suppose it's easy to place blame on me for this flawed system.