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Author Topic: Which version of 3DS MAX is the best? (26 messages, Page 1 of 1)
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AlekosGR
Joined: Aug 13, 2013

ACE Moding Team (Azura Computer Entertainment)


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 02:39 AM    Msg. 1 of 26       
I want to move from Gmax to 3DS max due to the more user friendly interface, the plethora of features and tutorials that exist. I have heard that 3DS max crashes with some HEK related scripts (at least it's newer version) and I would like you oppinion to which version to download from your personal experience. Thanks in advance.


Ki11erFTW
Joined: Jul 4, 2009

You've seen nothing yet.


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 03:14 AM    Msg. 2 of 26       
3ds max 8 is the best for Halo Custom Edition. Works with Blitzkrieg too.


Hell_Jumper_056
Joined: Jan 7, 2010

Halo: Accession


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 03:28 AM    Msg. 3 of 26       
Killer is right. Almost everything in the halo programs was designed for Max 2008.


PRPatxi
Joined: Oct 30, 2010

Dennis, free me from this suffering


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 08:42 AM    Msg. 4 of 26       
3ds max 2015 when it comes out.


sshers4
Joined: Apr 28, 2013


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 09:48 AM    Msg. 5 of 26       
Can you guys send me a link for 3ds max 8 please.


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 11:11 AM    Msg. 6 of 26       
Max 8 is the best version.

Modacity has 30-day trials (do these even still work?...) for 5-9:
http://files.modacity.net/software/3dsmax/

Otherwise, it'll cost you thousands to buy the program legit. That, or if you're a college student like me with a valid .edu, you can get a student version (which I've noticed no major differences in yet) for free for 3 years. So right now I've got 2012, which I will wholeheartedly say with full bias that it is the second best version to Max 8 for Halo. But probably not really.


AlekosGR
Joined: Aug 13, 2013

ACE Moding Team (Azura Computer Entertainment)


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 11:53 AM    Msg. 7 of 26       
WOW WOW... WOW!! The damn thing costs 3.500$!! Isn't it supposed to be free? I searched all the version you guys suggested, and they are all of them overpriced. Never mind, I will just stick with Gmax.


altis94
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

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Posted: Mar 15, 2014 12:00 PM    Msg. 8 of 26       
Quote: --- Original message by: AlekosGR
Isn't it supposed to be free?

It is if you are a student or a pirate.


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

When in Doubt, RUN!


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 12:25 PM    Msg. 9 of 26       
Max 8 is best for compatibility with ce but max 2010 works well with the exporter programs, better than any version past 8. 2011-2013 has annoying issues when you're trying to export models, as you need to close max to run it through tool. 2014 however is decently compatible


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 01:49 PM    Msg. 10 of 26       
Quote: --- Original message by: AlekosGR
WOW WOW... WOW!! The damn thing costs 3.500$!! Isn't it supposed to be free? I searched all the version you guys suggested, and they are all of them overpriced. Never mind, I will just stick with Gmax.


G-Max is free, which is essentially a really stripped down 3ds Max with basic tools. Autodesk doesn't support it anymore though and never really did.

And yes, 3ds Max costs about 3600 dollars for the latest version, for a perpetual license (you own it forever). You can also rent it per month, for about 150 I think. In comparison, you can rent Maya LT for 35$ a month.

Like ODX said you can get a educational copy (nothings stripped, you just cant commercially use it).

For Halo CE you'll want to use 3ds Max 8 (don't get it mixed up with 2008). However if you do stuff for newer games in CryEngine, Source, UDK, etc, the newer versions are way more beneficial and way less buggy. They also have a great amount of new tools and modifiers.
Edited by Higuy on Mar 15, 2014 at 01:50 PM


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 01:58 PM    Msg. 11 of 26       
Quote: --- Original message by: AlekosGR
WOW WOW... WOW!! The damn thing costs 3.500$!! Isn't it supposed to be free? I searched all the version you guys suggested, and they are all of them overpriced. Never mind, I will just stick with Gmax.

student licenses :D


OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009

Documentation and debug.txt


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 05:31 PM    Msg. 12 of 26       
I like max2009 :)
It's newish compared to the original options mentioned in the HEK, It's super resoponsive, works in windows 7 64, and has nice little options to display and flip triangulation so you don't have to constantly import WRLs. Combine it with JMS exporter 104 and you got ZIPPIDIDOODAH!


altis94
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Posted: Mar 15, 2014 06:56 PM    Msg. 13 of 26       
Earlier versions of bluestreak work fine though.
Edited by altis94 on Mar 15, 2014 at 06:57 PM


OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009

Documentation and debug.txt


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 06:59 PM    Msg. 14 of 26       
....it does?



wwwwwwhat are you doing wrong that's getting you tons of random errors?


altis94
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Posted: Mar 15, 2014 07:03 PM    Msg. 15 of 26       
I tried to export my BSP with 104 (I usually use 103) and I kept getting errors with materials which I didn't get before.


Hobbet360
Joined: Jan 10, 2012

ProTools > ToolPro


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 09:15 PM    Msg. 16 of 26       
Quote: --- Original message by: altis94
I tried to export my BSP with 104 (I usually use 103) and I kept getting errors with materials which I didn't get before.


Bluestreak 104 is a mod of 103 meant for gMax 1.2; it strips it of the loading bar and uses a more efficient formula to write the data into the MaxListener. 104 also is stripped of its rigged model support, so it is only meant for basic uni-armature geometry and BSPs.

In other words, it is a HELL-OF-ALOT-FASTER for gMax.

I use it all of the time, unless I am exporting a rigged model or something that is to be animated.


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Mar 15, 2014 10:45 PM    Msg. 17 of 26       
im just gonna make this easy and say that you shouldnt have anything higher then 2012 and it should be 32 bit. if you get 2012 and up if you decide that for whatever reason, i would suggest also getting a 2nd max, max 5-8.


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Mar 16, 2014 12:27 AM    Msg. 18 of 26       
Why? 32 bit is more useful cuzz of wrls.


Mushi
Joined: Jul 21, 2007

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Posted: Mar 16, 2014 01:00 AM    Msg. 19 of 26       
Last time I recalled people used 5-7 n 8, that was years ago tho shoot.


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Mar 16, 2014 02:38 AM    Msg. 20 of 26       
Quote: --- Original message by: MEGASEAN2812
Why? 32 bit is more useful cuzz of wrls.


This makes absolutely no sense.


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Mar 16, 2014 02:49 AM    Msg. 21 of 26       
Please enlighten me.


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

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Posted: Mar 16, 2014 04:00 AM    Msg. 22 of 26       
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
Quote: --- Original message by: MEGASEAN2812
Why? 32 bit is more useful cuzz of wrls.


This makes absolutely no sense.


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Mar 16, 2014 04:01 AM    Msg. 23 of 26       
Bsp stuff.


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Mar 16, 2014 10:16 AM    Msg. 24 of 26       
What is a wrl...?


ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010

Aye Ready


Posted: Mar 16, 2014 10:39 AM    Msg. 25 of 26       
It stores vrml information based on geometry, if you open it in notepad for example, you see it
stores info on transparency, diffuse colour, material binding etc.

The wiki explains it more indepth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VRML


Maniac1000
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Joined: Feb 24, 2007


Posted: Mar 16, 2014 12:22 PM    Msg. 26 of 26       
Wrl saves the error location data.
Import it to the max scene and it shows where the errors/warnings are.

 

 
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