hi there, im new in this comunity and i want to learn how to do bsp, i dont want tutorials, i know there is a topic of that, i only want recommendations for a noob, like programs (because there are many alternatives blender, gmax, 3dmax, etc) or any recommendation concerning about the bsp creation

Best program to use to work with engine: 3ds Max 8
I heard 3ds Max 10 works well with scripts for exporting

Gmax is the next best thing. Who uses Maya or Blender for Halo? I'll tell you who, losers. (Love you all)

So yeah start there

Always make multi-sub objects for materials, look closely,at stock BSPs, press shift and move an edge to extrude it, and use snap.

I don't quite understand the hate Blender gets around here. Anybody mind explaining it to me without throwing a shovelful of hate in my face?

Just lack of a real exporter

I'm pretty sure that's curable if you know your way around Python.

so....

program recommendations? or,
tips/tricks that aren't considered basics?
Edited by OrangeJuice on Jun 20, 2013 at 08:36 PM

In order to learn anything about BSP creation you're probably going to want to watch some tutorials.

Use 3ds Max 8. Install the Blitzkrieg exporter. It's on this website. For reference, look up the official mapping tutorial:

http://hce.halomaps.org/hek/

Use sealed world rules, imagine your level in real world and build it like that.



There is a thread with a exporter for blender (i think) that someone was working on.


ta da
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=42486


Edited by Maniac1000 on Jun 20, 2013 at 09:21 PM

I still believe it comes with errors (I heard something about smoothing groups).

For a starter, I think it'd be much better to go with 3ds or Gmax

Max8 ftw

also blender is probable the least user friendly program around


use chrome
i don't even think you can get gmax any more you should probable get 3dsmax 2010 its free on a student licence and use bluestreak instead of blitkreig
Edited by ELVEVERX on Jun 21, 2013 at 03:03 AM

nah go with 10 and 14 for anything else

My Chrome is Fab, and I am Fabulous.


anyways.... unless you sail... I'm purdy sure 3dsmax # costs in coinage, so I'd recomend Gmax, what I use.

I've always found Blender to be really intuitive, once you get a hang of the interface and hotkeys. It's all down to personal preference.

I've tried both. I prefer Blender.

And do you use it for halo like this person want to?

did anyone else know in german rosanna is altheros true story

bite me.

Since it's obvious that you have had a previous account that has either been banned or deleted, I think we have had this argument before.

That'd be funny if I wasn't from England.

Nope, blitzkrieg was designed for max 8 and earlier and it is the fastest and most reliable exporter, so ill stick with max8.

The first and most important thing is not to be easily offended. Occasionally you will get rude responses to your questions, just ignore them.

You will need following programs to get anywhere with Halo:

3ds Max (I use 2010, but you can use whatever version you like)
http://students.autodesk.com/?nd=download_center (simply register and download student version)

GIMP (like photoshop, but free and open source)
http://www.gimp.org/downloads/

Audacity (for making/editing sounds, also free)
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

Halo Custom Edition (I assume you already have this)
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=410

Halo Editing Kit (HEK)
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=411

Kornman's HEK (optional)
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=1081

Project BlueStreak (all three downloads)
http://ghost.halomaps.org/bluestreak/

CADs Animations Exporter
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3627

{TLS} Udie's Sound converter (optional)
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2659

Blender is an amazing program but it is not very well suited for Halo at this point in time. In addition to that *most* people agree that it is not very user friendly. 3ds max can be used for free with a student license (provided you don't use it for commercial purposes, but modding is fine).

I make Halo tutorials, although they are mostly focused on weapon creation so far. I maintain a complete list of them in the OP of this thread:
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=42693&start=1

If you have any questions or tutorial requests feel free to post them in that thread and I'll do my best to help out.

And last but not least, if you ever need any kind of script (especially if it seems impossible to accomplish)... ask kirby. (I think accomplishing the impossible is his hobby). If you can manage to get past all the awful anime references he is actually a very helpful guy.
Edited by Yoda on Jun 21, 2013 at 02:21 PM

thanks guys this will be very util, seriously thanks

lotta 3ds max tutorials, but nothing for gmax

I thought gmax was just a pluginless 3DS?
Edited by OrangeJuice on Jun 21, 2013 at 03:51 PM

Gmax was basically a stripped down version of 3ds a LONG time ago. Now it is completely, utterly, and hopelessly outdated and not really good for anything. 3ds has come a LONG way singe Gmax, I would highly recommend that EVERYONE interested in modding halo use a student version of 3ds.

well... many people swear by charizard, but personally, i prefer squirtle.
in all seriousness though, max8, and another modeling software called zbrush. zbrush is great for organic/smooth models, but sucks at hard edges. if u can't afford zbrush (it costs a pretty penny) then just get sculptris, its free and made by the same company so it's quite similar.

Just want to put this out there is it a good thing I model things in blender, export the model to max, and then texture, animate, rig, ect. in max?

That tends to be what I do. Blender's modelling interface is second-to-none as far as I've found compared to any other program, but everything else...