RGB Multiply materials don't have those settings, at least not in 2010 anyway.

I have rgb multiply materials set up in max 2010...

For me it only has the two map slots, two colours and an alpha blend setting. Nothing about transparency or RGB output.

No, I don't think you quite understand. You put an RGB multiply material inside the standard shader of the material under the section of diffuse.
Then, inside the rgb multiply material there are two map slots. Set the alpha form to multiply alphas. The first slot is a bitmap type for the diffuse. The second map slot is another bitmap type for the detail map.
In the detail map bitmap material selection, you see at the bottom that says output, where you can change the output values.
Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Oct 16, 2012 at 09:04 PM

This is how I setup my spartan.



http://www.mediafire.com/?sbz107nnvqyg5ig
extract to C:/
so it should be C:/halo3

Edit: This from 3ds max 2012
Edited by crimsonshadow117 on Oct 16, 2012 at 10:33 PM

first time user and haven't seen if this has been addressed, but a lot of models cannot load and a lot of textures either can't be extracted or they extract as "no preview available"/"error previewing!". what do

Make sure you have the campaign.map, mainmenu.map, and shared.map in your folder along with your other maps.

You can actually rip sky models but they're too large to open in MAX because of the sheer size and stuff I think

Just a note, it seems that adjudant cannot extract the frag and plasma grenades from halo 3 maps, would give one of those index out of range error.

suggestion: you should add the option to take all the gradient maps, use them on the corresponding alpha texture, then extract the final product as the bitmap instead of the gradient :O

I don't know why it won't work for anyone on Max 8, I tried it and it all worked just fine.

As far as I can remember, those have been extractable for ages.

@Gravemind:
I am wondering if you created Adjutant 2 from scratch...or did you have existing source code? I am wanting to learn more how these extraction programs read the map data, but it is hard to find information on how that works (Google has failed me). When you started work on Adjutant 2, did you get a EXE file and just open the file in Visual Studio? Or did you work from the ground up? I am interested in how the who program works and how is works with the .map files, then converting the Raw map data to usable extraction data.

Let me know.

Thanks

I could, but it would only work for tags with raw data such as models, bitmaps, sounds, animations and bsps. This data would be more or less useless to anyone who doesn't know how to read it though. I couldn't do meta extraction though, because the way Halo3 meta is structured it's not all in one place and I would have to have separate code for every tag type to go through and gather up all the pieces for each tag.


Adjutant 2 was made from Adjutant 1 code. In the original versions of Adjutant all the map loading code and extraction code was from a library called HaloDeveloper which was used in Alteration, made by Anthony and Xenon. Most of that code is still used, although I made many additions to it and removed Halo3 modding parts that weren't needed for Adjutant. HaloDeveloper.dll from Alteration would probably be helpful for you.

Are you able to share where I can find this HaloDeveloper.dll? I would like to take a look at it. Or is it basically lost to the sands of the internet?

It comes with Alteration.

What version did you use? I think I might have gotten a version that is protect/not opening properly.


Just looked around and found two place you can download Alteration....but neither of them work properly. First one that DLL files are non-opening files and the second link...well...let just say the ZIP file is corrupt. I guess Google has failed my once more. Gravemind, do you think you could possibly provide the DLL file you mentioned? I cant find a working one.

Thanks
Edited by videoman on Oct 20, 2012 at 02:40 AM

I concur with goldkilla88

Hmm, if the sounds and animation raws were extractable, maybe others can find a way to use them. Yes, sound's like a good idea.

I was able to find a file of the HaloDeveloper.dll but it only listed the file version and the person who created the dll file...not workable source code. Gravemind, first of all...what program are you using to work with the HaloDeveloper.dll file(s)? Visual Studio? Visual Studio C++? Second question...where did you get the HaloDeveloper.dll that you are working on? Like I said...I cannot find a viable HaloDeveloper.dll file.

Thanks
Edited by videoman on Oct 20, 2012 at 05:03 PM

Well I guess I can add that in then.


I use Visual Studio and code in C#. Try this: http://github.com/troymac1ure/Entity
It's for Halo2, but it's open source and a lot of it still applies for Halo3, just not all the same structure and offsets.

Thanks Gravemind. I will take a look at that link. Let me know if you are able to find a working copy of Alteration. I would like to compare the code of Halo 3 data and Halo 2. To see the differences and similarities.
Edited by videoman on Oct 21, 2012 at 02:34 AM

EDIT!: I was just scanning the files that come with alteration and found a folder called "Plugins". I was looking through those files and noticed that they all end with then file extension of .ALT. Now this might as well mean Alteration for all I know, but that is not what I am interested in. Is there a way to open these files in a program other then Alteration? Going to try NotePad++ but I doubt I will have much luck. Gravemind....any ideas on opening those files?
Edited by videoman on Oct 21, 2012 at 02:52 AM

altce has plugins with name .alt

ascension has plugins with name .asc

they both refer to the application they are used in.


edit typed wrong .atl should have been alt
Edited by ally on Oct 21, 2012 at 03:07 AM

Any copy of Alteration is a working copy.


Those plugins are just XML files telling the program how to read the meta of different tag types.


Those files are compatible with Adjutant. Adjutant uses internal plugins for compactness, but you can override them with external ones. Go to "Tools > Generate Plugins" and it will create a "Plugins" folder in the same folder as Adjutant, with plugins for Halo3, ODST and Reach. Just rename the plugin to be .xml instead of .alt or .asc, put it in the right folder, and it should read them just fine.

Why am I unable to extract scenery from Halo 3 .map files?

you don't use the scenery list to extract models from it, you use the render_model list.

Sorry I meant a copy of Alteration that would allow me to view and work with the HaloDeveloper.DLL file. That's what I meant by working copy.
Edited by videoman on Oct 21, 2012 at 09:36 PM

Is your new emf format open source?

its an MSE file, which is "Max Script Encrypted"

In laymans terms, that means no

I meant is the author willing to disclose information about the new .emf format

Grenades issue is fixed, next update will be around November 6th to celebrate Halo4. Also, now that I have the tag names for Reach retail I may end up dropping support for Reach beta.

You mean new updates for the Reach Beta part right?

I know that,I was asking him what he meant by dropping support.
He could be removing it or simply stop updating the Reach Beta extractor.

There's no reason for him to work on Reach Beta anymore. Reach Retail has everything the beta has, and more.

My intention was to drop it entirely, but if people want to still use it I can leave it in and just stop working on it in future. Does anyone mind if I drop it completely?
Edited by Gravemind on Oct 27, 2012 at 07:18 PM

You may wanna keep it but not update it.
Some things in the beta were not included in the retail game.
Edited by Dumb AI on Oct 27, 2012 at 07:41 PM