yeah it's not, anyway alot more bitmaps are extractable now so thanks. Keep up the good work

I wish there was something like this for Halo Reach.

OH MY GOD YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH GRAVEMIND.

If I had the code, I could make it. I could use Ascension's code to make one for Halo: Reach Beta but it would only be able to do bitmaps, so its not worth it.



Yea it can get the medals now :) I wonder what the last three ? medals are...

Well all I need are the pelican bitmaps, because I'm almost done with it.

Sorry but I can't help there. Are there any bitmap extractors for Reach retail?

None that I know of.

Me either. No-one makes anything public these days. Also I was thinking of giving Adjutant an auto update feature, would people like this?

Yes, What updates do you have planned for the future

Nothing that I can think of right now, but it would save me from having to make a new thread and download for every update if I make any small changes or think of new features.

Bungie is pissed at the ripping, they stripped the strings from the Reach Retail maps. Things can be extracted, but you cant tell the names of tags you're ripping.

Lol

You can tell the tag names in the beta, did they only strip them in retail?

yep.

Ok the update checking is pretty much done, but I can't update the download till I get home in a couple hours. It's not the best updating system, but it does the job. It just checks if there's an update available when you start the app, and you have to replace the exe yourself. You can turn off startup checking in settings. I'll let you all know when it's uploaded.

Edit: The update is uploaded, re-download it to get auto update checking. Let me know if it's working.
Edited by Gravemind on Aug 21, 2012 at 05:00 AM

You are very mistaken. I am one of the few programmers left in the community. I did a lot of the programming for Zteam. Here is just one example of the many things I have done over the years.


Sorry, but unless you are a well known person in the community, the chances of someone handing that over to you are slim to none (not even considering that there are only a handful of people with the capability of even doing so).


The tag names were not stripped, they were encrypted for both the beta and retail game. The encryption key that was used for the retail game of Reach is different from the one used in the beta. Unlike in the beta, the encryption key was not contained in the XEX for the retail game. That just shows me how little you actually know about this stuff. Try to learn yourself rather than have someone hand it all to you, you will never learn unless you do that.

I have to agree with that.

I figured that.

I've actually learned quite a lot in making this. And no-one has handed me anything yet. I'm not trying to get it just handed to me for nothing, I'd at least pay for it or for any work that had to be done. Or someone who knows could teach me. With programming I learn better by looking through existing code and seeing what it's doing and how it does it, looking through the BlamLib code, the HaloDeveloper code, Alteration's code and Darkfall's code taught me a lot.

That's cause that's not programming ;). The hardest part is reversing the structure, if you can't reverse it then there is no program to begin with. So technically you've been handed everything.

In that case the only thing "handed" to me would be the original HaloDeveloper lib. The first version of Adjutant was basically me putting together a GUI and using the default stuff from the lib. But since then I've added and changed a lot in the lib, as well as learning a lot of ways to better structure my code. I suppose you're right and that if I never had the lib there would be no program, but still, I have learned a lot from it.

Ouch.

That's bull, programming itself does not have anything to do with reverse engineering someone else's code. That's reverse engineering, not programming. In programming one often also uses external libraries that encapsulate other functionalities. To the programmer it is not important how this library is implemented, all that matters is that it works efficiently.

One more time: programming != reverse engineering.

Sweet dude. I'm still rather disappointed a large portion of bitmaps can't be extracted, but you made good progress, the UI flows rather nicely. Seeing as you're going to be making lots of small updates though, I would recommend an automatic updater, if of course, its possible.
Also, though I hate to join the fray, why do people care what "real" programming is? Appreciate the work presented, I know Gravemind sunk hours upon hours into this program. It works, its useful, and it is efficient.
Respect.

Thank you. And yea I'm working on a better update system, it should be done shortly after I get home in a few hours. In the new system the exe and changelog will automatically be replaced. Also there's some other changes you'll see when I push the update.
Edited by Gravemind on Aug 22, 2012 at 01:37 AM

@Gamer Kid: I lol'd.

I still never understood why people kept things private. Does it make them feel powerful and above others in the community?

Ah yes Gamer_Kid
You just burn ShadowSpartan a new one.

QFT^^^ TM_Updates^^^ Above

I see a lot of quote-ception here. Anyways, the new update system is done, as well as other changes. You can either check for updates in the app, or re-download the zip linked in the OP.

What exactly is bull ? So you're saying he's not a programmer?




Well you're lowering the bar aren't you. I see you can use google.

> 5 seconds to google clitoris
> insult someone on halomaps with new found knowledge
> receive high fives from other halomaps low dwellers

> years of experience with programming and reverse engineering
> share knowledge
> get insulted by someone who just googled clitoris

Yah I see how they compare. You're going places buddy.
Edited by Sprinkle on Aug 22, 2012 at 03:27 AM

You were implying that he was not a programmer just because he learns by example. All that he was "handed" was examples and libraries, which is very common in programming. That was the proverbial male cow if you know what I'm saying.

Anyways, it comes down to semantics. But I don't like when people try to put others down just to feel good about themselves, that's how your post came across to me.

Coming from someone whose name is Gamer_Kid, I guess I should expect nothing less. Sprinkle pretty much summed up my thoughts on this matter.


Okay, he has been using a library developed by other people to extract content, while doing slight modifications to it. While programmers do use libraries made by other people, they do write a fair amount of their own code for the applications they are creating. Rather than learning from the code he has, and attempting to do sounds/animations/bsps himself, he would rather go around and just beg people who have worked hard on that stuff to give it to him. That is not programming. All applications made for Halo have had to use reverse engineering to a certain extent, or else they would not exist at all. So the two of them go hand in hand.


I never really left, and I have been working on various projects in my free time for quite a while. Disappointing to see that the childish behavior of Halomaps has not changed one bit.

Never said he wasn't a programmer, I said what he was doing wasn't programming. Someone said earlier that he spent hours on this project, well people spent days/months/years on reverse engineering and some stuff still hasn't been figured out yet. He's given libraries that contain one thing, reverse engineered structures. If he wanted to "learn better programming" he could easily go to other libraries and learn from them. There is no sound extraction because he wasn't given (see here is where it's not programming, the code he's "learning better" from is the product of reverse engineering) the information to be able to implement it.

I never said he wasn't a programmer, that was you. Reading someone's code, learning how it works, then implementing the same thing is also considered reversing engineering (which is what he is doing) and as you've stated clearly . A bit of a paradox don't you think, almost like you're pulling it out of that ass. Shake that ass. dododododudadu.



Also that's rich coming from you, you can't even compliment someone without putting someone else down (see firefight descent thread).

Like talking to a wall of modacity kids :-)

That's all you got ? Another put down ? How does one classify someone being from modacity ? I've never been registered there, unlike you l0dex.

1. Why do you feel the need to bash the guy (even if he sucks and is talentless). You're more childish, and more annoying than him.

2. Why is there still that 6 year old photo of my still floating around?

Come on really your user name is sprinkle,I expected the google crap from someone.

Much like ShadowSpartan,Sprinkle google and clitoris is the ony way your gonna know what that is.