I'll upload the files separately so you and others can download them one at a time.

This way if the connection is interrupted, you won't have to start from the beginning.

What if it stopped at 1.1 out of 1.2 GB D:

15 mins man I can download 10gbs in 15 mins, based on what time of day it is tho
Edited by DOOM899 on Jun 22, 2016 at 09:02 PM

I've only ever used mouse and keyboard.

I can play spv3 with just a touchpad on my laptop and a keyboard in the laptop, can play nice upto heroic difficulty. A mouse and keyboard shouldn't be a problem. (I'm not a very good gamer, if I sounded like).

I can do that with my mac because the trackpad is stellar.

my gaming laptop's trackpad blows hard though, so I need kb/m/controller

All three at once? Quite the challenger you are.

Yeah, you are right though, a controller is so convenient.

Since you guys were talking about network speeds and all, just thought I'd share-



Suck it nerds.

Really nice, I never get higher then 40 :/

Yea real convenient to plug in my controller every time I want to play a game even though my keyboard and mouse are already plugged in.
And are a superior control method over a controller for a FPS in every single way.

Personal preferences *cough cough*

40?! We get maybe 12. Even the fastest places in the country only get 20-30.

Normally my ping is 350.

However sometimes it crosses 700 ms = kickout :v

No, kb/m is actually more effective. You're allowed both very precise and imprecise movements without having to change sensitivity, but way of making large or small movements with your wrist. I've never seen a controller user outperform a kb/m user before. Even in a lot of flying games the kb/m outperforms controllers (including joystick) for precision. Supposedly, controllers can be more comfortable, but I don't see a difference.

Halo was designed for controller, it's what SPV3 was designed for as well. Halo has never been about precise aiming as much as it has been about your movement, and in that regard I feel the controller trumps the M&K. It simply offers more control in terms of speed, 360 degree turning, and easier melee + movement.

I've always been better with a KB/m than a controller for fps. I love controllers to though. halo is one of those games I'll use both(not at the same time :p) depending on how I'm feeling. Swinging around hunters and shooting them in the back always felt way better with a controller.

What have you been smoking?

At this point I think it's best just to leave him alone... He doesn't know what he's been talking about.

Obviously mouse + kb allows more precision and speed, and will outperform any controller when it comes to shooting games. To argue against that is to smoke pot and eat shrooms.
The only thing one can really say about a controller is that it can be more enjoyable to use, despite its reduced effectiveness.

I think you are all missing masterz point which is that fidelity wise a Controller trumps a keyboard simply due to the fact that I am able to attune my movements with greater control as apposed to a keyboard which just allows two speeds; press or depress.

Think of it like a train set.

On the one hand you have lever which controls the speed of the train. This inturn represents the controller.

With the lever system I am allowed greater control over the exact speed of the train and I can even dial in faster or slower speeds periodically simply by pushing the lever further to the maximum or to the minimum speed setting.

With a keyboard I am given less proportional power over the speed of the train. This is because I am limited to the two exact speeds I mentioned above; forwards or stop.

However (moving back to the game world) this doesn't mean that just because you have greater control over your first person character you are instantly superior to a keyboard and mouse user.

Infact laser guided mouse tracking tech today is so precise it is claimed that with some products it is possible to guide cars, ships and even missiles.

I'd also like to point out that it takes less time and less energy to press a button on a keyboard or mouse than the equivalent trigger on say a joystick or controller.


So to sum up;

Controllers offer more dexterity and proportional control. But are less accurate due to the ball and pivot system that some systems utilize.


Keyboards and mice are considerably faster and demand less energy to utilize In addition to also being precise in the tracking field.

However both systems leave the operator with less fidelity when it comes to certain actions and can be less realistic to use in depending on the scenario at hand.


On a personal note I prefer controllers and joy sticks for gaming as apposed to a keyboard and mouse, however when it comes to everyday tasks the KBM obviously crushes the controller.

Especially when it comes to navigated through interweb explorer on your x360!

Masterz secretly works for microsoft and is responsible for the xbox one sales.

I'd have to agree on that, but I'd have to make Halo:CE an exception on that regard, kb+m is an excellent fit for it, with Halo 2 though it's just bad to play with kb+m even with a proper key binding, I guess it'd be the same with Halo 3 and others...

As PC FPS adept and veteran it doesn't bother me to play halo:CE with kb+m and I don't feel anything wrong in the pace or feel, as opposed to H2.
Edited by Idaho on Jun 23, 2016 at 04:30 PM

You're right precision doesn't matter.
I'll have a field day shooting every last bullet of an AR into a Jackle Shield and not kill it.

How much are you paid by MS to shill this hard?

I bound melee to the thumb button on my mouse for this exact reason.

I had the xb1 controller on my radar for a while but I was waiting on getting one to see if the wireless receiver would eventually get win7 support, and it appears it has now.

I do remember being very pleased in 2003 that I could finally play halo campaign with a KB/m.

I'm pretty certain that the KB/m is faster.

Test it yourself. Fling your mouse across the desk and see how many rotations you get with the camera. Now do it with the controller.

SPV3 is "designed for controller" only because Halo originally was.


It all comes down to preference.

I'll be playing with a Steam Controller. Accuracy of a mouse for aiming(once you master the trackpad), and the precision of a joystick for movement.(especially if you actually use the joystick...)

I got to say I've really been digging the steam controller, I think I love it most for skyrim, I'm still getting my profile dialed in for halo ce. Mainly working on how it performs when weapons are scoped. I use a paddle to zoom and also have the same paddle slow down the track pad sensitivity, which is awesome! But it still needs a bit of fine tuning.

lol @ this BS reasoning

It might be just me that's felt this
But I feel as if the environment texture work on Halo has so much better blending and things compared to the snow in AotCR.
Just from looking at the videos and things.

auch :/

Ayyy fibre optic master race unite.

Got about 12 with the mouse, didn't get any with the controller. I don't think throwing the controller helps with rotations and stuff.




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