sup guys, as a few of you prolly know I got my pc fixedf but lost everything, however, I redownloaded all the hek stuff I regularly used, and the ghosts tagset, so I now can get open every campaign scenario :D. Also as far as I've seen hek plus has no problem extracting bitmaps correctly like it did before, meaning my campaign mod might not be off, only delayed. I am currently redownloading my latest b30 beta and will try to extract majority of my old tagset and go from there. Also, using a completely different tagset, I am creating that post apocalyptic rps mod I asked about awhile back. I have been completely reworking the weapons and damage to get my modern style tagset to work differently from classic halo combat. The result is a completely different style combat than halo's, with much more cover crouching, less walking tankness, and longer range combat. there WILL NOT be ads, only classic hipfire crosshair combat. There will be no original halo tags in this mod, only modern weapons, bipeds, vehicles, and sounds. This will create a completely opposite sort of effect from my h3 style campaign mod. the mod's style is based off of fallout and borderlands. I will be using multiple large multiplayer maps, for if I only had one rpg map I would not be able to fit such a wide variety of content into this mod. After this free roam rpg mod I may release a more shooter non rpg campaign using the same story as this mod.

Now as for the story, here is the rough mind sketch of it.

EDIT: I've decided instead of capturing the east coast they captured the west, I'm no good with directions -.-'

In year 2033 North Korea Nuked the midwestern part of the U.S. and invaded and captured the East. They also landed on the shores of England, and have been fighting for england in an all out slugging match. With Europe's hands tied with Korea attacking England, they cannot assist Britain. The same effect has happened with Korea, and they could not take control of the nuked midwest. It is now 2041, North Korea and China have United and taken control of Japan, South Korea, Thailand, and Vietnam. The newly formed titan Is at war with Europe and what's left of the American Military. Through it all, the Midwest has remained devoid of leadership, and the border out of the scarred wasteland is guarded by North Korea, who on North America has annexed Canada and the Northern tip of Mexico. No one can escape the wasteland, which is barren, radiated, and cut off from the rest of the world. Here, it is a kill or be killed world. It is brutal, full of bandits and the newly formed rebel army of Neo Nazi extremists. The Neo Nazis plan to take the entire Midwest, then the East, and using North Korea's weaponry, take the rest of the continent. After this they will launch a genocide of racial prejudice unlock any the world has ever seen. Killing anyone who looks even slightly different from the nazis main population. They are taking control of the wastes quickly, and North Korea doesn't see the Nazi's sucker punch coming because of the distracting war between the Europe and themselves. Unless someone else puts them down, they will succeed. Even worse, when the bombs hit the midwest, it destroyed Area 54, and everything within it was released. The devious creatures that resided in area 54 have been released, and are working their way to area 51, 53, and 55, under the rule of their mysterious military leader, Halo Hogger, and their prophets, the Wise Ones. They are currently slicing their way through the people of the wastes, destroying countless amounts of people, nazis, bandits, and civilians, without regard for their lives or what faction the citizens stand by. They are pure evil, and must be stopped. Through all the hell the eight years in the barren wasteland has wrought, whats left of the US military that were in the midwest when the bombs hit have remained band together. They are fighting to retake the midwest, and then assist in retaking the country. They are currently low on the food chain, and losing all their footholds in the wasteland, and are nearing complete and utter defeat. Now, a new player will enter the game, a warrior who awakened by a crashed helicopter with no memory of his past. He will change the wasteland forever, but how is not yet known. This mysterious soldier is you, welcome to the wasteland.

That's roughly the story behind my new mod. I'm currently working on the ai placement for my first post apolly map, then I will start working on the scripts. I should hopefully have pics up tomorrow and maybe a vid or two of the combat up by this weekend. I should have more details on this mod later.

Right now I've got school tomorrow and need to hit the hay soon so I can't do much so starting tomorrow I'll try to give regular updates on both my mods. PEACE!
Edited by Delicon20 on Mar 30, 2011 at 08:42 PM

Interesting....Good luck with it :)

Paragraphs.

Your backstory sounds a lot like Homefront. Also, why nuke the midwest. It seems logical to nuke DC or NY. Also, why invade the East? North Korea is off the West Coast of the USA.

If Japan, South Korea, Thailand, and Vietnam have been taken over, what happened to Australia?

Global warming. It's being flooded

OH YEEEAAH, okay ever tim i say east in the back story i now mean west :p

and as for the other question I just think the midwest is the best setting for an apocalypse type wasteland :p

btw Ima try to get some pics of the map ingame later tonight guys


PS and yeah I kinda wanted it to be similar to homefront because the story was really realistic and made sense, and as for australia they just chillin on theyre island watchin teh fireworks
Edited by Delicon20 on Mar 30, 2011 at 04:50 PM

Sounds like a ridiculously overdone story thats been done way to many times and I find myself to be highly unrealistic. Europe and the U.S together would destroy any country like Korea or China that attempted to destroy them.

maybe not, given the financial state of the U.S. compared to China and Korea, aswell as the growing issues and revolts in the Middle East aswell as the mexican drug wars near the U.S. border, America could be taken out of the picture by a well planned emp ambush followed by a nuclear missile barrage. Once captured then America's resources could be used in the fight against Europe, so in other words, stranger things have happened.

Put delicon on the terror watch list?

Are you thinking realisticly or are you thinking like COD? Do you honestly think an EMP would wipe out all possible electronics throughout the United States? Its nearly impossible; also if the US was being invaded they would obviously direct their attention away from foreign matters and to protect their own country. Another thing to state is that if Korea was to detonate nuclear warheads in the US the amount of radiation left in the necessary spots with resources would have tons of radiation, making it dangerous. Another thing to consider also is that they can only attack through the west coast/ Hawaii/ Alaska, which dosen't give them much options. And even then, they would have to go around Canada/South America (or attack Panama Canal) just to get to Washington D.C. The United States has many, many, nuclear missiles, much more than Korea could produce in 20 years. The U.S also has their ICBM missles, which could be over in Korea in the blink of an eye destroying their own country.

Edited by Higuy on Mar 30, 2011 at 06:23 PM

ftfy




You have noooooooo idea.

Edited by AGLion on Mar 30, 2011 at 07:04 PM

I'm actually don't really care about realism but it could be a nice map regardless of story...

Totally forgot about NATO. Same with the UN and any other major alliances.

This country isn't prepared for an invasion? Lol; being in an alliance like NATO is already preparing for any consequences that could possibly happen. Its not like we'd set up missile silos on every inch of the border and spend money on useless things that would doubtfully ever happen.

The United States military is the most powerful military that the world has ever seen; that is not biased, its simply a fact. The US has the most well organized military force in the entire world, positioned around the world. It also has the benefit that it isn't surrounded by any threat (Mexico/Canada). The US also spends the most money on its defenses than the entire world combined. The U.S also the largest fleet of bombers and aircraft carriers/naval fleet.

Regardless, you go against the U.S, your in a world of trouble.

Also I still come here time to time, I just don't make maps.


Edited by Higuy on Mar 30, 2011 at 07:53 PM
Edited by Higuy on Mar 30, 2011 at 08:20 PM

I think I'm gonna disregard your strong case of nationalism and stick with most of the original story, after all the mod is more focussed on the present and not the past of how the wasteland became what it is. Granted the U.S. is the most powerful known military in the world, but a lot can happen to the world in just one year, let alone twenty two. Plus not a lot of Americans know the exact strength of North Korea's military or what it's like inside their borders, considering most Americans aren't aloud inside and people found crossing the border of North Korea are shot on sight. This makes North Korea have the potential to be the perfect enemy of the U.S. and Europe. Plus, with all the money America owes China, if China banded together with North Korea they would already have a foothold on the U.S.

so, all things considered, I believe the war could go either way, making it a good enough base story for this mod. now, unfortunately this night is passing relatvely fast and I haven't exactly gotten my preferred amount of work done on my rpg mod so I'm not sure if I'll screenshots to show tonight. I'm gonna keep working on it till the last minute tonight, I hope to at least get the scenario with all the encounters finished ingame before I hit teh hay tonight.

Ha, you just fell right into Higuy's nationalist trap.
But in all seriousness you should do whatever you want to do.

I'm sorry but did you just play Homefront and decide to write this?

I will not disagree that it is a bad idea for the US to fight with China. As my history teacher lectured us, it is a bad idea for the United States to fight against China. While we may have the largest Air Force and Navy on the planet, China has the largest Army, and it is not implausible for the American military to falter to the Chinese. It is, however, unlikely for China to develop an Air Force or Navy larger than ours in twenty two years without us noticing. America will retain the largest air and naval force on the planet for the near-forseeable future.

What I DO disagree with is North Korea uniting with China. China will NOT unite with North Korea. This is an undeniable fact. China has more to gain economically by siding with the Americans and Europeans than the North Koreans. You're leaving too much up for speculation, based primarily off video games. While this is a video game mod, stories usually have to be plausible in order to captivate the audience. Otherwise, it will likely be dismissed as another half-assed story developed with little effort.

If anything China would buy up American stocks with debts gradually hollowing out industry and essentially owning USA in longrun.

I've actually never played homefront

and if anyone wants to come up with a better storyline then by all means please do because I really just want to focus on the mod itself so I'm open to story suggestions

Guys, Guys, Guys your forgetting one very basic thing............ its a game, anything can happen.

For all you know Santa Claus was the mastermind behind the attack and was just manipulating North Korea because the Lucky Charms guy dared him to do it, after Chester Cheetos tripped Lucky in front of the everyone.

But yea, I agree NATO and the UN would have a hand in totally WTFBBQing North Korea if they dared lift a finger against the US or it's allied nations.

So is the tagset going to be Halo or something else?

It's actually the other way around. We're slightly more organized, but they possess more sheer military force. Our victory against the Japanese also wasn't that surprising. First off, quoting my history teacher's direct words, we produced more crap than any other country at the time. The Japanese were unable to match our sheer numbers; for every ship they sank, we could easily build three in its place. When you look at the modern world, the tide seems to have turned. Now who produces the most "crap" in the world?

Delicon is free, however, to do as he wishes for the mod. Normally, though, it's a good idea to come up with the story AFTER creating the mod. The only reason why I responded was because I wished to express my opinion about his existing story; it was kinda hard for me to read this with my OCD and desire to get a history / political science major.

This guy is smart. How do you think the Russians managed to crush German lines all the way into Berlin, even after the Germans had fought their way all the way into Stalingrad?

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp

Go and compare the U.S to North Korea.


Edited by Higuy on Mar 31, 2011 at 06:13 AM

Anything could happen, just take Ghost Trick for example. People WILL do things that you won't expect, because it isn't expected, nobody is prepared for it.
Edited by OrangeJuice on Mar 31, 2011 at 04:30 PM

gots some screenies, yes these tags are ripped, so no credit for anything used in this goes to me, plus most of these ripped tags are old anyway so I really don't see any harm in leaving the finished project unprotected

this is where u either h8 or congratul8 :p


me n my humvee -__-
http://img560.imageshack.us/i/pic1gu.jpg/

crackin' skulls
http://img19.imageshack.us/i/pic2xv.jpg/

mai fail sniperr skeelz
http://img841.imageshack.us/i/pic3fnz.jpg/

a dungeon you say!?! BLASPHEMY
<a href="http://img231.imageshack.us/i/pic17e.jpg/" target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://img231.imageshack.us/i/pic17e.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img231.imageshack.us/i/pic17e.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img231.imageshack.us/i/pic17e.jpg/" target="_blank"><a href="http://img231.imageshack.us/i/pic17e.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img231.imageshack.us/i/pic17e.jpg/</a></a>]http://img231.imageshack.us/i/pic17e.jpg/</a>

In the wasteland, even the zombies is packin'
http://img709.imageshack.us/i/pic16i.jpg/

bandit camp (ai have yet to be placed)
http://img141.imageshack.us/f/pic15s.jpg/

covers 4 wimpssss!
http://img31.imageshack.us/f/pic4m.jpg/

spamming headless with an aug and missing every shot!!! :)
http://img202.imageshack.us/i/pic5xwk.jpg/

the monters' outpost
http://img64.imageshack.us/i/pic6st.jpg/

the uncaptured lake
http://img845.imageshack.us/i/pic7.jpg/

Nazi Extremist's captured lake
http://img98.imageshack.us/i/pic8k.jpg/

US Marine's base
<a href="http://img31.imageshack.us/i/pic9b.jpg/" target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://img31.imageshack.us/i/pic9b.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img31.imageshack.us/i/pic9b.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img31.imageshack.us/i/pic9b.jpg/" target="_blank"><a href="http://img31.imageshack.us/i/pic9b.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img31.imageshack.us/i/pic9b.jpg/</a></a>]http://img31.imageshack.us/i/pic9b.jpg/</a>

specops soldier
http://img31.imageshack.us/i/pic9b.jpg/

nazi extremist
http://img812.imageshack.us/i/pic11pu.jpg/

contact
http://img854.imageshack.us/i/pic12d.jpg/

firefight
http://img855.imageshack.us/i/pic13.jpg/

dropped
http://img822.imageshack.us/i/pic14zr.jpg/

that's all I got, still in the early stages, map being used is desert dunes

PS cod fp hands are placeholders
Edited by Delicon20 on Mar 31, 2011 at 09:08 PM
Edited by Delicon20 on Mar 31, 2011 at 09:09 PM

The Nazis should have MP40s, pl0x. :O

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=1592

I actually got those tags from that map a few days ago,but I'm planning on making multiple rpg maps, each in a different faction's territory or with a different evironment (eg. this map has quite a few bodies of water, another may not have any) so for the nazi's territory the mp40 will be a common weapon, along with a few others not in this map.

Sounds cool. Will these tags be released afterwards?

Those tags you can rip yourself.

takes FOREVER to rip tags even if you use eternal lightning

Poor baby? Then don't in the first place.

some people have lives they need to get back to