
Xoronatus
Joined: Dec 6, 2010
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Posted: Jan 15, 2011 07:23 PM
Msg. 1 of 30
One thing that really would be nice to have in Halo CE would be new player physics. For example, we all know the crappy player death poses from Halo 1. How about somebody makes ones more similar to Halo 2. CMT tried improving the death poses for their brutes in their brutes v2, but it would be really nice to have some awesome death poses.
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Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008
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Posted: Jan 15, 2011 07:30 PM
Msg. 2 of 30
Halo 2 implements ragdolls to dead bodies, which HCE does not have.
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Jan 15, 2011 07:31 PM
Msg. 3 of 30
Uh... Halo 2 doesn't really have "poses". It uses ragdoll physics, which Halo 1 does not (well, only a little bit). I don't think it really makes much of a difference anyways, the game is the game.
EDIT: Advancebo beat me to it, :P Edited by MoooseGuy on Jan 15, 2011 at 07:32 PM
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ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007
A rare sight, indeed.
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Posted: Jan 15, 2011 09:41 PM
Msg. 4 of 30
No, he's right in that there are death poses still BEFORE ragdoll activates fully. Go check out H2CE_Zanzibar/maps by those guys, there's a new death animation for when you headshot somebody. It's a flip now like in Halo 2, but of course when he hits the ground it turns into Halo 1 "ragdoll" lol
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Xoronatus
Joined: Dec 6, 2010
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 12:10 AM
Msg. 5 of 30
Yeah, that's nice, like in Halo 2, my favorite part about the game was the physics. I just love charging at a pack of grunts in halo 2 with a br, and nailing all of them in the head and watching them all flip like nuts. Or shooting elites or brutes and the way their bodies fall when you kill them. It really affects the experience.
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 06:43 AM
Msg. 6 of 30
For some reason certain bodies will simply not turn ragdoll, they're act like Halo 1 bodies no mater how you blast them around.
And meleeing and crouching over them does nothing, sadly.
The engie was too unfinished.
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Xoronatus
Joined: Dec 6, 2010
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 12:42 PM
Msg. 7 of 30
Oh yeah, you couldn't move any bodies by smacking them in Halo 2, except for smacking grunts with fuel rods.
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Dark Neon
Joined: Jun 8, 2009
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 12:44 PM
Msg. 8 of 30
You could move any body of any foe if you had the sputnik skull active.
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DarkLord0912
Joined: Jan 17, 2009
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 01:10 PM
Msg. 9 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: Dark Neon You could move any body of any foe if you had the sputnik skull active. Yes the sputnik skull set's explosive and melee damage to a new scale,in halo ce that would be controlled by the instant accleration scale. Also in H2SPT I gave the player and some ai's new death animations,ragdoll animations. But the problem with that is you can only do one animation,because halo looks for one animation per event,instead in H2 and up you can have mutiple animations so there not always the same based on the event that happens.
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flyingpenguin117
Joined: Sep 8, 2010
You must Never, EVER leave a SINGLE BOB ALIVE!!!
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 01:41 PM
Msg. 10 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkLord0912 Yes the sputnik skull set's explosive and melee damage to a new scale. WRONG! It offsets the mass of all objects. Cowbell upscales all of the explosions damage.
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 01:43 PM
Msg. 11 of 30
How do YOU know?  I always thought it made melee more powerful, rather than changing objects' mass though....
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SlappyThePirate
Joined: Aug 24, 2009
You are irritating, I'll release nothing
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 03:43 PM
Msg. 12 of 30
You can have animation permutations. Look at the elite sword melee animations.
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Xoronatus
Joined: Dec 6, 2010
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 05:19 PM
Msg. 13 of 30
So if I wanted a spartan to flip when he dies, I would have to get an animations for that right?
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ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007
A rare sight, indeed.
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 05:23 PM
Msg. 14 of 30
Yes I believe so, but there's different animations for either getting a headshot or just killing them regularly.
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 08:30 PM
Msg. 15 of 30
Yep, which is why normally getting a headshot in Halo 1 results in the victim spinning around and falling. Edited by MoooseGuy on Jan 16, 2011 at 08:30 PM
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XlzQwerty1
Joined: Aug 6, 2009
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 09:45 PM
Msg. 16 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: MoooseGuy
Yep, which is why normally getting a headshot in Halo 1 results in the victim spinning around and falling. Edited by MoooseGuy on Jan 16, 2011 at 08:30 PM I hate that animation. Hope someone makes new animations! Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Jan 16, 2011 at 09:45 PM
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 11:38 PM
Msg. 17 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: Xoronatus Oh yeah, you couldn't move any bodies by smacking them in Halo 2, except for smacking grunts with fuel rods. Correction: You can move dead grunts and jackals with a fuel rod, rocket launcher, or energy sword, maybe also brute shot. You can move any body by using a melee with Sputnik active. The problem is they didn't put the right weight into ragdolls, so any melee that mvoes them won't just prod them, it'll send them skidding along the floor and completely reposition them as if by an explosion.
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Tuaha
Joined: Aug 1, 2008
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Posted: Jan 17, 2011 07:00 AM
Msg. 18 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: flyingpenguin117Quote: --- Original message by: DarkLord0912 Yes the sputnik skull set's explosive and melee damage to a new scale. WRONG! It offsets the mass of all objects. Cowbell upscales all of the explosions damage. I believe Cowbell is the same thing as Sputnik.
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HaloIsAHorribleGane
Joined: Nov 9, 2010
I'd rather play yahtzee
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Posted: Jan 17, 2011 09:47 AM
Msg. 19 of 30
reach has the best death anis... game still blows
looks arent everything
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PRPatxi
Joined: Oct 30, 2010
Dennis, free me from this suffering
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Posted: Jan 17, 2011 10:46 AM
Msg. 20 of 30
You guys can also change, when you use the sniper, to say you sniped x instead of you killed x and also sniper spree instead of killing spree w/ the reach sound :)
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SlappyThePirate
Joined: Aug 24, 2009
You are irritating, I'll release nothing
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Posted: Jan 17, 2011 10:54 AM
Msg. 21 of 30
I don't think that's possible. We're still formulating a who-killed-who script, and I don't think it's going to get finished. Plus, scripts can't detect player names, only their numbers (and even then only time to time). It might be possible through a dedicated server's code or something, but I don't know how those things work.
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Xoronatus
Joined: Dec 6, 2010
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Posted: Jan 18, 2011 02:17 AM
Msg. 22 of 30
So how would I change those death animations in Guerilla?
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Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009
Discord: Holy Crust#4500
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Posted: Jan 18, 2011 02:47 AM
Msg. 23 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: SlappyThePirate I don't think that's possible. We're still formulating a who-killed-who script, and I don't think it's going to get finished. Plus, scripts can't detect player names, only their numbers (and even then only time to time). It might be possible through a dedicated server's code or something, but I don't know how those things work. Player numbers change constantly throughout the game. Especially when players join\leave the game.
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d4rfnader
Joined: Jul 16, 2010
Open mouth, insert sandwhich.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2011 02:50 AM
Msg. 24 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: HaloIsAHorribleGane reach has the best death anis... game still blows
looks arent everything =O Reach is epic! well, in my opinion anyway. ontopic: so its not possible to give a biped semi-working ragdoll physics?
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Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009
Discord: Holy Crust#4500
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Posted: Jan 18, 2011 02:52 AM
Msg. 25 of 30
BeachParty did it, not sure if anyone remembers him. He did something close to ragdolls. Then again, he probably just unchecked\checked a flag or something to the like. He had a video somewhere but this was about a year ago.
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Muscl3r
Joined: May 22, 2010
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Posted: Jan 18, 2011 04:33 AM
Msg. 26 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: d4rfnaderQuote: --- Original message by: HaloIsAHorribleGane reach has the best death anis... game still blows
looks arent everything =O Reach is epic! well, in my opinion anyway. ontopic: so its not possible to give a biped semi-working ragdoll physics? reach sucks. Odst is best
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jan 18, 2011 07:05 AM
Msg. 27 of 30
odst sucks. One of the others is best.
is it possible to make a scriot that makes a biped disappear and drop a set of loosely attached (or clipping) small vehicles shaped like each of the player's bodyparts on the ground?
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DarkLord0912
Joined: Jan 17, 2009
Works on bigger and better things
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Posted: Jan 18, 2011 08:44 AM
Msg. 28 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: TuahaQuote: --- Original message by: flyingpenguin117Quote: --- Original message by: DarkLord0912 Yes the sputnik skull set's explosive and melee damage to a new scale. WRONG! It offsets the mass of all objects. Cowbell upscales all of the explosions damage. I believe Cowbell is the same thing as Sputnik. I already know that. Pretty sure cowbell is not in halo 2.
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SlappyThePirate
Joined: Aug 24, 2009
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Posted: Jan 18, 2011 10:08 AM
Msg. 29 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: jesseQuote: --- Original message by: SlappyThePirate I don't think that's possible. We're still formulating a who-killed-who script, and I don't think it's going to get finished. Plus, scripts can't detect player names, only their numbers (and even then only time to time). It might be possible through a dedicated server's code or something, but I don't know how those things work. Player numbers change constantly throughout the game. Especially when players join\leave the game. Yeah, that's what I mean. Stupid netcode.
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IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
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Posted: Jan 20, 2011 03:24 AM
Msg. 30 of 30
Quote: --- Original message by: HaloIsAHorribleGane reach has the best death anis... It's pretty abnormal for someone to hold their head in pain after getting headshotted. Oh wait, you simply weren't talking about anims, were you?
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