One song for every wave (10 waves + 1 bonus wave = 1 round), as well as a song for the ending.

Hey MoooseGuy, I'd like to ask a few things:

How long will each wave take to fight? I mean roughly. If there's rapid switching between tracks then the OST has no purpose, in my view.

Are there gonna be opening and closing cutscenes?

My firefight will be different in that the individual waves take a little longer to complete. This makes completing a number of rounds an accomplishment, and I have a ranking system based on those completed rounds (completing 5 rounds takes a long time, and gets you the highest rank). Because these waves are longer, I like to distinguish the wave number with its corresponding song. The sequence of songs starts from the first song again on the next round start.

And yes, I have already made opening and closing cutscenes for the map, I only need to make the extraction cutscene after I get some animations.

Anyways.... wasn't this thread about Tensity?

Yes, start bagging a map before you've even seen it on the basis that it's a FIREFIGHT WITH CHECKPOINTS! whoa! that must mean it will SUCK!
B40 Firefight had checkpoints, and it didn't stop it being awesome. In fact, it made it better in my opinion. If you don't want checkpoints, go restart the level every time you die.

Wow, thanks for calling my map a fail based on one aspect you don't like...

Let me look at a classic firefight: Solitude Firefight by ShadowSlayer

They give you a fixed amount of lives.
If while fighting the "x"th wave you die, you simply get one life less and your progress continues until you run out of lives.

Solves the checkpoint problem, eh?

But I'm not sure about having this system in Tensity, because enemies would be (almost ready to start) spawn-killing you unless it's a real good secluded spot.

For Descent mabye this is workable?

Firefight IS survival. Hold off as long as you can. What would you call survival then? Oh, you get hungry too, and have to scavenge for mushrooms?

Does it need to be testing a player's skills? No. It's meant to be fun.

Already implemented. In fact it was the first thing I implemented.
What Poetic is saying is exactly spot-on.
A lives system basically makes checkpoints only be purposed to save and come back later.
The lives system is what ensures your eventual loss.
Edited by MoooseGuy on Dec 18, 2010 at 05:55 AM

ehh...
You do know that B40-Firefight did the same thing basically.
Long waves and checkpoints (except mine has lives and clearly-defined wave changes)
Edited by MoooseGuy on Dec 18, 2010 at 06:12 AM

Lol, so picky.
There's nothing wrong with changing the experience imo, that's what makes it different/fun/standout.
Where's the fun in playing the same thing, just on a different bsp?

It won't be easier on the player if the enemies are good and in good supply...
Plus it doesn't save after each wave.
If needed, I'll implement a delay system or make you pay for saves.
Edited by MoooseGuy on Dec 18, 2010 at 06:30 AM

This.
I don't really see what's the big deal about it having to follow strict boundaries to be called a firefight.
I think I am doing something a little different, and that will make it fun and enjoyable.
Isn't that what games are for?

So I can't call Beach Assault a multiplayer map just because there are ai on it?

Look, firefight portent had a save purchase. It was fun to play and hard to survive in.
Having checkpoints does not make a firefight a cakewalk.
Do checkpoints, on purchase.

I see an even division of opinion, half are saying use the system I am currently using, and half are saying to use no checkpoints...
If I were to use checkpoints I would set the price moderate so that they are not rapidly used. (Because in Portent they were too cheap imo)

Make them be 1000 points, or more! That would be good.

I s that a good compromise, guys?
High-priced checkpoint saving?
Askin' yall ofc for your opinion.

Yes, charge them more than portent. Whatever you see fit.
Can I get a Slappy discount?

Can't stop Slapping.

Sure, I'll get you a personal copy if you want. PM me if you want any features.
(Same goes for any person who has helped me in making this map)



EDIT: Man, I totally threadjacked. I'm sorry.
Edited by MoooseGuy on Dec 18, 2010 at 03:33 PM

Firefight(s)

Problem solved, get over it.

inb4 Stay on Topic/Lock

There's nothing wrong with adding checkpoints. If some people insist that firefight test skill because they take a 9-year old so seriously, they can just restart the level when they die.

I'd like a personal copy in which every weapon gets a slight accuracy buff and perhaps a tiny damage nerf to conpensate, and an AR that actually works (I don't want an SMG that does the job twice as fast and twice as long). Also, maybe give it slower tha of rate and higher damage and accuracy.

Of course, that's if you want to give me a personal copy, also I don't have Xfire or even CE anymore so...

Portent had checkpoints because it wasn't a firefight. As I initially stated, it was intended to play more like Nazi Zombies, rather than a Halo Firefight. I merely named it a firefight because I had no idea what to call it.

Keeping this in mind, my "firefight" cannot be considered a Halo firefight. As such, I'd have to agree with Juan / L28 that a firefight shouldn't have checkpoints. However, from what I can see, Descent itself also isn't a true Halo firefight. From its definite beginning and end with purchasable weapons, it's meant to be more of a wave defense than a Firefight. The contrast between "firefights" with purchasable items and l0d3x's b40 firefight / other true firefights is substantial, and as such, should not be compared. They're two distinct genres, and should remain as such.

juan needs to stop trolling. it's his map he can do whatever he wants my god it dosen't matter if it has checkpoints or not it's his map! b40 had long waves and it's the 2nd best firefight map there is (in my opinion).

how about making it there is only a certain number of checkpoints to be purchased??? 3 perhaps??

So which system do you guys think is best for Tensity?

a) - Checkpoints at end of each wave
b) - No checkpoints, one life only
c) - No checkpoints, limited number of lives
d) - No checkpoints, plus point system like Nazi Zombies

Man, I'll go with anything.

Oh, and please stop the argument before my thread is locked!
Edited by PoeticRulesAll on Dec 18, 2010 at 09:31 PM

I like D, I just like survival type maps! Maybe instead of calling it Tensity Firefight we could call it: Survival of Tensity!

c is how a firefight should be

Actually, in the ODST campaign, many levels have "mini-firefights" in them?

Example: At the end of NMPD HQ, you get a Firefight with some aerial enemies and Banshees and Phantoms. It lasts around 3-4 minutes, actually letting the player know his own limit in enduring endless waves.

At the end of Coastal Highway, you are trapped in a small facility and Phantoms come at you with enemies. It was pretty much a firefight lasting quite some time before evac comes.

So I don't really care.

Technically in my view, a Firefight should be one at which endless waves of enemies come at you, until you die. It also comes in many variants. It may also be part of a campaign.

It's all how you look at it.

... and it's all up to the makers to decide whether they want to call it a "Firefight" right?

Stay on topic: CMT-Tensity Firefight

There seems to be a huge argument over a simple following of a nonexistent definition of a firefight.
My map neither falls under true firefight or under campaign, and fits pieces of each.
The reason I will elect to name it a firefight is because the style of gameplay and most of the features of the map are of a firefight.
The point is, why is this a big deal? The whole reason I am making this map is to have a fun and enjoyable, and NEW (that's a biggie) mix in the pot of awesomeness.
The recipe is getting there. I hope the meal is prepared for you guys soon!

(Now talk about Tensity dagnabbit )

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5601

I script.

I'd be willing to help with this in some way. I could do weapon placement or something.

okay, I will go around collecting the tags. Here is the list of all of the tags requested:

Assault Rifle------------------------------(Which one?)
Battle Rifle--------------------------------(Which one?)
Pistol--------------------------------------(Which one?)
MA5K Carbine--------------------(Got it, good to go)
Sniper Rifle--------------------------------(Which one?)
Shotgun----------------------------------(Which one?)
Sub Machine Gun--------------------------(Which one?)
Flamethrower------------------------------(Which one?)
Spartan Laser------------------------------(Which one?)

Enemies would be equipped with (CMT Weapons):
Plasma Rifle------------------------------(Which one?)
Plasma Pistol------------------------------(Which one?)
Needler------------------------------------(Got it,good to go)
Fuel Rod Cannon--------------------------(Got it good to go)
Energy Sword-----------------(unusable)

There are multiple versions of CMT's tagset. Do you want the ones In CMT G3? Or SPV2 or SPV1 or snowgrove?

Also, as those thread jackers where talking about, what kind of firefight? Points system, multiple lives, checkpoints ect.
Edited by pepzee on Dec 21, 2010 at 12:35 AM