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Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

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Posted: Jul 24, 2013 09:58 PM    Msg. 141 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
i think the rebel logos make sense if they are using stolen unsc stuff

Right, you want to be able to distinguish your own forces from the enemy's, but the current vehicles are sort of overdoing it. They have emblems slapped on all over the place, where in actuality, having one on each side (maybe one on the hood) would suffice.


master noob
Joined: Aug 10, 2012

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Posted: Jul 24, 2013 10:30 PM    Msg. 142 of 196       
I think ye can do what was in the books, which was adding custom paint jobs to various vehicles since the rebels didn't have to follow protocol or standards. ye can also modify the models with uneven scraps of metal in various shapes, like a shark head for a warthog turret or a flame decal for a tank's treads.


renegade343
Joined: Jun 26, 2012

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Posted: Jul 24, 2013 10:32 PM    Msg. 143 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: master noob
Ye can also modify the models with ... a shark head for a warthog turret or a flame decal for a tank's treads.


Thou shalt also create an Easter Egg with a flamethrower or rocket turret with pictures of a fire-breathing pony with rainbows.


rcghalohell
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Posted: Jul 24, 2013 11:56 PM    Msg. 144 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Quote: --- Original message by: renegade343
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
i think the rebel logos make sense if they are using stolen unsc stuff

Of course, it'd make sense to put the rebel logos on there instead of UNSC's markings. But rcghalohell, it'd be a lot easier to tell (and fun to look at) if an Innie Warthog actually LOOKS different, too, right?
The gunmetal gray thing works pretty well, too, but I think you could even take that a step further. (This goes for the Pelican and the MAKO drones, too) Instead of making them all shiny and shielded, maybe you can change or even take off the Warthog/Pelican/Mako's armor platings and show off more of what's "under the hood"? It won't give the occupants as much protection, but it should make them faster to drive/fly and easier to maintain -for a "hastily attached" group like the Innies, I think this would make a lot more sense.

Edited by renegade343 on Jul 24, 2013 at 09:27 PM

Right, you want to be able to distinguish your own forces from the enemy's, but the current vehicles are sort of overdoing it. They have emblems slapped on all over the place, where in actuality, having one on each side (maybe one on the hood) would suffice.


hmm you two may be right, perhaps if they were curved and and thinned, it may be better, like a little thin curved metal plating over them, perhaps that's a better rebel modification, idk why but this reminds me of forza motorsport 4


renegade343
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Posted: Jul 25, 2013 12:05 AM    Msg. 145 of 196       
I've always had an image (image! Because none of the games have really ever shown the Innies before) that the Innies were really practical and efficient, even comparing to the UNSC. Like, they would have a logical and understandable reason for installing every plating they put on and every last bolt they weld in.
With that in mind, what's the point of having a metal plating (besides just having a different front)? What's the function of it?


ZOBI3KING
Joined: Dec 25, 2012

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Posted: Jul 25, 2013 01:40 AM    Msg. 146 of 196       
How I think the innies should look. (IMO)

Also try to look at how the innie equipment/bases/encironments looks like in Halo Wars and Halo 4's map Outcast (DLC).

Innie concept art isn't by me in case anyone couldn't tell


UnevenElefant5
Joined: May 3, 2008

its been fun yall, i'll never forget this site :')


Posted: Jul 25, 2013 02:35 AM    Msg. 147 of 196       
These suggestions/discussions are great guys, keep it coming. I've already completely redesigned the Innie hog. The base version is ingame and working perfectly, with all the stuff matched exactly up to the normal warthog.
Here's some pictures:





So far it's just the default version, but from here I can make any permutations I want to, so next up is the grenade launching version, then probably a troop or turretless version and anything else I can think of.

E: the thing with the innie bipeds is that I've lost the original source files (had to reinstall windows last summer) so if I want to change anything, I have to start from scratch with them, and that entails rigging a whole buttload of permutations, which I'm not too keen on doing.

E: thanks for the Outcast mention, I hadn't heard of that before, and yeah the 3 or so halo wars concepts have been the guiding force behind my design of the innies.


Edited by UnevenElefant5 on Jul 25, 2013 at 02:39 AM


renegade343
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Posted: Jul 25, 2013 02:42 AM    Msg. 148 of 196       
I'm liking your Warthog redesign so far! -though I'm seeing two major things you might wanna look at before you continue: the colors of the wheels (they're still greenish like the original UNSC hogs), and the shaders (they make your Hog look green in-game, still).

Besides that, it's coming out great so far :D Now to see what else you can come up with...

-Is there a way you could rederive your source files from your completed Innie bipeds at all?


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

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Posted: Jul 25, 2013 03:13 AM    Msg. 149 of 196       
The Warthog is looking better, but I think the fenders would be detrimental. It decreases the amount of space the wheel can rise before hitting the chassis, which would reduce the vehicle's offroad capabilities. But additional armor is a good idea. Perhaps this could be applied to the front bumper, the hood, and/or the sides. Maybe do away with the shield around the chaingun, just to further differentiate it from its UNSC counterpart.
Edited by Echo77 on Jul 25, 2013 at 03:14 AM


Aer
Joined: Jun 1, 2013

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Posted: Jul 25, 2013 12:31 PM    Msg. 150 of 196       
about the sentinels, you have the onyx sentinel you should give the spartan laser and for the small one you can do a estasis weapon (just like halo 4 deleted weapon) no damage but slows down the player, just like the plasma weapons in halo ce do something similar (i think)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jo9TgzyipI

and if you want, i can give you mi watcher and onyx sentinel 3d models (are ugly but is something)



rcghalohell
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Posted: Jul 25, 2013 01:31 PM    Msg. 151 of 196       
oh god... no promethians...


UnevenElefant5
Joined: May 3, 2008

its been fun yall, i'll never forget this site :')


Posted: Jul 25, 2013 05:04 PM    Msg. 152 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: renegade343
-Is there a way you could rederive your source files from your completed Innie bipeds at all?


Well I could import the gbxmodels back into max, but the gbxmodel importer is mehhh at importing rigs, and it never imports materials right, so I'd basically be starting back from the beginning anyway. I'd still have to set up the materials, then fix the existing rigs. The only thing I wouldn't have to do would be actually make the perms, but that was the easiest part anyway.

Here's some updates on the warthog:



I tried dulling the red channel of the multipurpose map but it's still pretty shiny. I turned down the perpendicular/parallel brightness as well, any ideas on how to make it less shiny?

So far the only perm is the shieldless turret version, which I think looks pretty cool, but it's mostly a proof of concept. From here I can make a bunch more perms and then apply those perms to all the different warthogs with their different weapons.


Something I threw together out of pieces of the Pelican's chaingun. No idea if anything will come of this, but I kind of like the idea of having just a huge gun mounted on the back, almost in a comical way.

And here's a video of the Suicide Innie running around:
http://en.client.xfire.com/video/60885e/


E: Redneck Innies, anyone?

Edited by UnevenElefant5 on Jul 25, 2013 at 05:09 PM


Storm
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Posted: Jul 25, 2013 05:07 PM    Msg. 153 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: Killer5000
this started at 2010 so wow 3 years later pa i think this thing is gonna die in this rate


You are an idiot. Go jump in a bottomless pit. This project is still alive, and hopefully gets finished; learn to respect people who've been around much longer than you have.


renegade343
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Posted: Jul 25, 2013 07:08 PM    Msg. 154 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: UnevenElefant5
Here's a video of the Suicide Innie running around:
http://en.client.xfire.com/video/60885e/

Love it xD -he looks like he's seriously drunk and stoned, though... just the way I like mah suicide bombers.

Quote: --- Original message by: UnevenElefant5
Redneck Innies, anyone?
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9818/vvdd.jpg

YES. ... (following parts redacted for being offensive... sorry ><)



Edited by renegade343 on Jul 28, 2013 at 09:47 PM


Gamma927
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Posted: Jul 25, 2013 09:22 PM    Msg. 155 of 196       
Haven't done this in a long time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajT5gEcZzJY


rcghalohell
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Posted: Jul 25, 2013 10:20 PM    Msg. 156 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: renegade343

Quote: --- Original message by: UnevenElefant5
Here's a video of the Suicide Innie running around:
http://en.client.xfire.com/video/60885e/

Love it xD -he looks like he's seriously drunk and stoned, though... just the way I like mah suicide bombers.

Quote: --- Original message by: UnevenElefant5
Redneck Innies, anyone?
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9818/vvdd.jpg

YES. ... but no. A REAL redneck car is made out of run-down pieces of scrap metal from 40 years ago and blasts country music down the middle of nowhere. With a confederate flag on the back.


Edited by renegade343 on Jul 25, 2013 at 07:54 PM


you forgot to mention that the stupid hillbillies are racist and complete idiots


baconatorCE
Joined: Jun 15, 2012

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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 08:42 PM    Msg. 157 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: UnevenElefant5

And here's a video of the Suicide Innie running around:
http://en.client.xfire.com/video/60885e/



Can I see that at game speed 20?


Guilty_spark
Joined: Dec 8, 2011

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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 08:55 PM    Msg. 158 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
oh god... no promethians...
I don't see why so many people hate the Prometheans I thought they were fun to battle with all there abilities and whatnot.


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Jul 28, 2013 08:56 PM    Msg. 159 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
Quote: --- Original message by: renegade343

Quote: --- Original message by: UnevenElefant5
Here's a video of the Suicide Innie running around:
http://en.client.xfire.com/video/60885e/

Love it xD -he looks like he's seriously drunk and stoned, though... just the way I like mah suicide bombers.

Quote: --- Original message by: UnevenElefant5
Redneck Innies, anyone?
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9818/vvdd.jpg

YES. ... but no. A REAL redneck car is made out of run-down pieces of scrap metal from 40 years ago and blasts country music down the middle of nowhere. With a confederate flag on the back.


Edited by renegade343 on Jul 25, 2013 at 07:54 PM


you forgot to mention that the stupid hillbillies are racist and complete idiots

Yeah, I can't stand racists. Always making sweeping, negative generalizations about a group of people.

*stares*
------------

I think the double wheel configuration might be good for the rear wheels of a Warthog that has an extended bed. Maybe an improvised troop carrier?
Edited by Echo77 on Jul 28, 2013 at 09:04 PM


renegade343
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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 09:56 PM    Msg. 160 of 196       
yeah... um.. sorry.. That's not really.. ... nevermind..

-Anyways. Any progress, Elefant?


Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Still here. Still loves bacon


Posted: Jul 28, 2013 10:49 PM    Msg. 161 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
Quote: --- Original message by: renegade343

Quote: --- Original message by: UnevenElefant5
Here's a video of the Suicide Innie running around:
http://en.client.xfire.com/video/60885e/

Love it xD -he looks like he's seriously drunk and stoned, though... just the way I like mah suicide bombers.

Quote: --- Original message by: UnevenElefant5
Redneck Innies, anyone?
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9818/vvdd.jpg

YES. ... but no. A REAL redneck car is made out of run-down pieces of scrap metal from 40 years ago and blasts country music down the middle of nowhere. With a confederate flag on the back.


Edited by renegade343 on Jul 25, 2013 at 07:54 PM


you forgot to mention that the stupid hillbillies are racist and complete idiots


Hey, who are you calling racist and idiots? not joking, my entire extended family are the type of people you'd call "hillbillies" so how about you hop off the hate train bro.


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:19 PM    Msg. 162 of 196       
there are some things that cant be undone, and I will never forgive their craziness again


Quote: --- Original message by: Guilty_spark
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
oh god... no promethians...
I don't see why so many people hate the Prometheans I thought they were fun to battle with all there abilities and whatnot.


they are just so unfair, they can heal way too fast, and they have such messed up ways of combat
Edited by rcghalohell on Jul 28, 2013 at 11:20 PM


Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Still here. Still loves bacon


Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:31 PM    Msg. 163 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell

there are some things that cant be undone, and I will never forgive their craziness again


Quote: --- Original message by: Guilty_spark
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
oh god... no promethians...
I don't see why so many people hate the Prometheans I thought they were fun to battle with all there abilities and whatnot.


they are just so unfair, they can heal way too fast, and they have such messed up ways of combat
Edited by rcghalohell on Jul 28, 2013 at 11:20 PM


you mean like you being a complete and total jackass towards different ethnic groups? Yeah I'd say that can't be undone, and is unforgivable. Don't think you can spit out derogatory statements through a computer and not get called on it.
Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 28, 2013 at 11:32 PM


rcghalohell
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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:34 PM    Msg. 164 of 196       
they deserve it, if only you know what my childhood was like, my past. im not sharing the tale on the forums, so back off


master noob
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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:35 PM    Msg. 165 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
they are just so unfair, they can heal way too fast, and they have such messed up ways of combat

"this enemy is too hard, I hate it and that makes it a bad enemy!"
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
they deserve it, if only you know what my childhood was like, my past. im not sharing the tale on the forums, so back off

"I have reasons, but I won't say them so I can look like a jerk everywhere!"
Edited by master noob on Jul 28, 2013 at 11:35 PM


rcghalohell
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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:38 PM    Msg. 166 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: master noob

Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
they are just so unfair, they can heal way too fast, and they have such messed up ways of combat

"this enemy is too hard, I hate it and that makes it a bad enemy!"
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
they deserve it, if only you know what my childhood was like, my past. im not sharing the tale on the forums, so back off

"I have reasons, but I won't say them so I can look like a jerk everywhere!"
Edited by master noob on Jul 28, 2013 at 11:35 PM


stop trolling me and get a life

I don't see how its fair that when you bring their shields down, they immediately teleport and recharge, over and over


Echo77
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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:39 PM    Msg. 167 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: master noob

Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
they are just so unfair, they can heal way too fast, and they have such messed up ways of combat

"this enemy is too hard, I hate it and that makes it a bad enemy!"

Either way, though, Prometheans wouldn't really fit in with the whole Insurrectionist theme. I believe it's supposed to be set before Combat Evolved.


Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Still here. Still loves bacon


Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:42 PM    Msg. 168 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
they deserve it, if only you know what my childhood was like, my past. im not sharing the tale on the forums, so back off


your "reason" is a pathetic excuse to spread hate considering the human being is a creature that should be judged by the individual, not the cultural group they belong to or the race you are. Oh, look a "hillbilly" just said that, and since you judge the group by the individual, then I guess we're not racist idiots are we? Either way you lose. So stop spewing out these hate posts and I'll back off. Or, you can keep it up, and I'll be there to belittle every post you make hating different groups of people, and I guarantee other members will do the same. This is an easy way to tarnish any bit of good reputation you have here, so keep it up and see what happens.
Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 28, 2013 at 11:43 PM


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:42 PM    Msg. 169 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Quote: --- Original message by: master noob

Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
they are just so unfair, they can heal way too fast, and they have such messed up ways of combat

"this enemy is too hard, I hate it and that makes it a bad enemy!"

Either way, though, Prometheans wouldn't really fit in with the whole Insurrectionist theme. I believe it's supposed to be set before Combat Evolved.


hmm that is true, you bring a good point. the technology may need to be dialed back, probably like it was in halo wars on the basic non upgraded forces


renegade343
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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:48 PM    Msg. 170 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Prometheans wouldn't really fit in with the whole Insurrectionist theme. I believe it's supposed to be set before Combat Evolved.

True.. but then again, the flying drone from Halo 2 did vaguely remind me of a Forerunner Sentinel (at least when it flies and all):




besides, even modern camera drones are sleeker, too, so I don't see why you can't look at the Prometheans for inspiration?



-as for the racism thing, I apologize for bringing it up, too.. rcghalohell shouldn't be the only one taking flak from all this.


Edited by renegade343 on Jul 28, 2013 at 11:50 PM


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:52 PM    Msg. 171 of 196       
everything happens for a reason, and the lord sees are creations(and im sure halo custom edition is a gift from him :P) as a reason to existence.... and repeating the parenthesis, im sure hce is a gift from him.
I just noticed I haven't seen much of the unsc camera drone in hce, this could be a good stepping stone


master noob
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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:57 PM    Msg. 172 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
stop trolling me and get a life

I don't see how its fair that when you bring their shields down, they immediately teleport and recharge, over and over

says one who devotes their life to staying on a forum using ports and playing a 12 year old game!

also, if you had the ability to teleport and someone was shooting at you, I'm certain you would teleport away to recharge your shields. unless, of course, you think that's unfair to your opponent and would rather die.


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

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Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:01 AM    Msg. 173 of 196       
been back in the forum for only a short time I only do this when I wake up, and a couple times when I get home from hanging out with friends or my job, and the recharge countdown still continues even when they are in the teleportation sequence and impossible to hit, it would make sense if the timer froze while they teleported, but it doesn't
Edited by rcghalohell on Jul 29, 2013 at 12:02 AM


Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Still here. Still loves bacon


Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:10 AM    Msg. 174 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
everything happens for a reason, and the lord sees are creations(and im sure halo custom edition is a gift from him :P) as a reason to existence.... and repeating the parenthesis, im sure hce is a gift from him.
I just noticed I haven't seen much of the unsc camera drone in hce, this could be a good stepping stone


now your trashing religion? nice to know you've died and seen what happens afterward. Wait, you haven't died before? You don't know what happens after death? Yet you challenge what other people believe might happen after death? Kinda makes you look arrogant, ignorant, and like a just plain bad excuse of a human being doesn't it? Keep it up, you're making yourself look more and more like an ignorant 13 year old with preteen angst.

Keep trolling, and insulting people and your believes, I'm sure everyone, Dennis included, is loving it and doesn't consider it a personal attack towards users, which totally isn't punishable by a ban, and totally won't make everyone hate you in the process (this totally isn't sarcasm ;D )




Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 29, 2013 at 12:11 AM


master noob
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Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:11 AM    Msg. 175 of 196       
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
been back in the forum for only a short time I only do this when I wake up, and a couple times when I get home from hanging out with friends or my job, and the recharge countdown still continues even when they are in the teleportation sequence and impossible to hit, it would make sense if the timer froze while they teleported, but it doesn't

thousands upon millions of other people seem to have a much better time than you, then. nowhere do I see anyone else facing as much difficulty as you appear to describe. I think you should just play milder games.

 
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