It is realistic because it works in real life.

Dear god in heaven. Have you understood anything that I've shown to you earlier?

Just because Bungie made it so that you snap your wrist to eject the magazine, doesn't mean that you can't pull it off.

Now, your argument is that it's automatic, and it automatically ejects off once the magazine is empty. Explain to me, then, why after you run out of ammo, you still have the magazine on your fp model?

It's also illogical because if you dropped your SMG, the force of the drop will snap off the clip... now if you're fighting 4 elites, you wouldn't want to snap it on now would you?

*FACEDESK*

My God you people are thick.

When you run out of ammo, the clip stays on until you hit the magazine eject, which forces the clip off of the gun as if it were spring loaded.

You do not have to pull the magazine off because it flies off by itself when you hit the magazine eject.

Get it now?

If we're thick, you don't read.


Edited by Gamma927 on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:09 PM

And you have no proof that your explanation is canonical, Karrade. It's not like the Ascendant Justice people wrote an entire article on how SMG reloads work.


Never mind. I'm wrong. You are too.



There is a mag release button, but the magazine is flicked off. So as long as we press the mag release button, we can grab the clip, and throw it away.
Edited by Gamma927 on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:14 PM

It has nothing to do with canon. It's how the -blam!- gun works. If the wrist just snapped off the clip, then it would fall off every time you melee.

All that matters is if the animation looks good to a player, people won't really be analyzing your animations while playing the level...

This is where this pointless arguement should have ended. I can't beleive you guys are actually arguing over some thing as trivia as this. Get over your selves please and thank you.

We've finished the discussion on xfire. As Karrade can't prove that his design will work, he can't prove that the animation is unrealistic, and therefore, it's staying.

Therein lies the problem. It's an ugly animation.

In your opinion.

It has been stated time and time again by the creator that the animation is staying. Either accept it and move on, or don't bother posting in the thread because you aren't contributing in any way.

No, just shut up, stop trolling, right now. I'm sick of it, I'm sick of you whining about the animation. You have absolutely no good reasoning behind your logic.

If we all listened to you, and made our animations 'realistically,' then we would all get bored VERY quickly and there would be absolutely NO freedom to our movements. We are essentially getting rid of over half the possibilities we animators have.

As I stated before, the SMG's magazine can only be flicked off in about 5 ways (that I've so far experimented with), and 2 of those are just normal Halo style. The other 3, I talk about in a general manner. Of course people can stylize them as they see fit, but the overall method is roughly the same.


Now, quit arguing over it. Changes will not be made to the animations (except for the melee), so you're just wasting your time trying to prove a point that we don't care about. We are the makers of the work, we know best, not you.

Our a switch lock thing on the smg clip, press, pull off, reload.

I see what you did there...

Maybe we should add this.
Edited by jesse on Sep 2, 2009 at 11:39 PM

The maps sunds great. finaly a boss level map!

I already gave him an SMG though =)

Theres no use in a silenced smg.

basically, i dont see the use in having a silenced weapon. its has a cool sound but doesnt really have an effect. In one of the halo 3 odst gameplay vids. the guy used his pistol on the top of a building and shot 3 grunts in a squad of covenant and the brute immediately knew where he was.

I think the pistol is not silenced, anyways the only helpful thing about a silenced gun is the ability to make two similar guns with different stats

Um... no?

The purpose of a suppressor is to reduce the muzzle flash, and make the gun quieter during stealth operations. It is mostly used by special operations teams. It helps keep the mission covert.

I don't think we're going to be stealthy in a map concentrated on many enemies constantly charging at you.

Ugh... I'm talking about in Halo CE! I know what a silencer and flash hiders do!

You wouldn't misname something a silencer if you knew what it did.

Silencers aren't really silent contrary to popular belief. It just helps reduce the sound when you're outside. When you're inside you'll hear it. I've fired a baretta 92 and an ar15 with silencers on them inside a range and you can still hear them with the ear protection on.

You people argue about the weirdest things.

Since it's Friday tomorrow, I might be able to post something that hopefully will cease arguments for a short while. As of now, I'm off to bed.

Generally silenced small arms reduce the noise to about one room (It would be like watching TV and a normal gunshot going off on the TV)

And flash hiders, they just hide the flash...

Stop Arguing about what silencers do. heres what they do they silence the weapon.

On topic: so is the level in its final stages yet?

Wrong wrong wrong wrong. There is no such thing as a silencer, there are only suppressors.

Even Bungie said on the first Vidoc for ODST "Suppressed M7" and "M6S"

Stop nit picking, you know what he meant by silencer.