I dont use tool to compile the maps.

No, ripping tags from protected maps is the same as stealing furniture from someone's house. While we may not own the rights to the tags, because anything that goes through Tool belongs to Bungie, we did create them and worked hard on modelling, animating, texturing, and tagging them.

That was sarcasm.

Sarcasm fails over the internet.

Then when you release the map you give them away to fly wherever they will, do whatever they want in this big world we call the internet free from the bonds or control of the parent who made them.


This is the way of things. Get use to it.




Edited by Dennis on Mar 12, 2009 at 09:24 PM

Doesnt matter, you released it. Its open to what even can be done to it.

What does that have anything to do with map legeality?
Edited by Killeryoshi on Mar 12, 2009 at 09:43 PM

Since when was Halo ce open source?

Oh, God, I just realized... I'VE INHERITED MY MOTHER'S OVERPROTECTIVNESS! :O

well then you go right ahead and sell your maps for 20 bucks a piece and see how long you last
/ SARCASM.

Or I can have full rights to the content I put into them.

uh huh. see how far you get.

So, what do you use?
Tool++ is just Tool with a UI, I think, so it's still essentially Tool, meaning the rule still applies.

Tool*, HMT, dothalo, and some other tools can build maps.
Edited by DEEhunter on Mar 13, 2009 at 12:41 AM

Yeah but theres only one tool that works perfect:P

Using Tool is irrelevant. If it is for or from the Halo game, looks like the Halo game or sounds like the Halo game then Microsoft holds the rights to the intellectual property. You can hand code it in ones and zeros and it won’t make a difference, Microsoft holds the rights to the intellectual property. It is like this for just about all games from any company.

I'm not against people to use my map for moding or any transformation as long as they don't sell it. However, I'm not sure about the legality of it in the particular case of yoyorast island because the original model is right protected and people are using this model in a map.. its nothing to do with Halo, I mean, If I wanted I could sue anyone using my model for any game engine. Anyway, I've no time for this and again, I'm not against it. But I would really appreciate people to simply ask me before doing anything... I won't be so ok for people to mod V2. Anyway, it will be the map will be protected.

Once you put the model into the Halo game and posted it for download you gave away all rights to the model that is in the game. This is part of the EULA you agreed to when you installed the game and HEK. The original model copyright might be yours, if it does not impinge upon the intellectual property of the Halo copyright (meaning it is not a model that has a likeness of something in Halo), however once you put in it the game you abdicated the rights to it and could not succeed in a legal suit against anyone using it in the game. Not only that but the fact that you forfeited your copyright protections when you placed the model into the game would weaken any other claims you might wish to bring outside of realm of the game.

The fact of the matter is that, contrary to popular belief, just because you made it doesn’t necessarily follow that you have copyright protections for it. It is not that simple.

A quick question, would a model that you made, and later sold (on for example Turbosquid) to someone, who then puts it into Halo be legal?

Does that mean we can't use tool to compile it ?

He never said that we can't use tool. He said that no matter what program we use, including tool, it would still become the property of Microsoft.

Thank you.

Dude Dennis said that once the map is posted it is copyrighted by MS.
Edited by Killeryoshi on May 4, 2009 at 06:06 PM