To many people use this. Spartan 094 uses this to rip from maps and some games. Shouldn't spread this around to much.

Haha. You've never seen this thing on crysis.

Considering my computer can't run max straight, I'll DL this. :D

Something you guys should know. If you have any service packs installed on your 3ds max then it will not support .dds files anymore.

That program is very old, i ripped my Nanosuit from Crysis Warhead on max settings with it, and the results are very good.

But then again, only use it when you have a decent computer.

It's very handy for making/ripping First person models too, i'm using it for some years now, not single complain.

Though I don't think this shouldn't be spread so much, when done right you can rip things not intended to be ripped...

Because it's easier to get them from these maps so you know the models don't need any edits anymore, or if you just can't get that other model working, or whatever, it doesn't really matter.
If everyone thinks linux, the world would be alot brighter. *coughdoancough*

But this shouldn't be working standard on Halo 1 since it's directx 7.

Edited by Gamma927 on Feb 15, 2009 at 03:31 PM

I lol at that, since this game was released in 2002 and the newest version of directx at that time was 8.1, you can't change a directx version of a game by updates.

but anyways, DON'T use 3dxripper on this game, for gods sake, delete this thread, it doesn't belong in halo's forums!!! it's as bad as the map unprotector darkzealot made, it's the most stupid thing to do and shouldn't be here, it only would make things worse.

in before lock

I'd rather have something that is ripped and look good then something that looks like a piece of crap modeled by hand.

Well said.

in before lock

l2meme

Oh you fools. TBH I find this tool (at least for me) to be quite an educational one. Its a great way to be able to look at the models in an effort to further improve techniques. True some people will use it for more darker reasons; but there will be people who will use it for good.

But i mean, seriously guys to bypass the map protection is rather easy in the first place... For the sake of avoiding a rage fest I wont go into details :\ chillax

My bad, it's directx9.0b.
Explain to me why the Readme included with Halo says that DirectX 9.0b is required to run the game.

And the release date for Halo PC is 2003
Edited by Gamma927 on Feb 15, 2009 at 10:08 PM

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I wouldn't care because it's just a game, and I know the risks of releasing a map even if it is protected.

Only reason to care is not to be flamed by the community, if it were for all but the community, it would be all ripped stuff maps since noone cares about the readme's and copyright, only important thing is how well it plays and how cool it looks, but here you have it, community, wich makes stuff alot more complicated.

You're right, but that are the risks of it, like film industry, will smith complained himself that the movies are going way down because of torrents, it's risk of the job man, atleast add your name to the model itself incase it DOES get ripped and people claim it.
Only thing keeping people from doing it, is the community, that's my point, not saying that it's legal, i'm just stating fact.

Fixed that for you. I know it's morally wrong to rip something that's protected, it's true that you shouldn't do so for the creator's sake. However, there is no control over your content once it is released, at least when it comes to Halo CE. That, is a fact. And I'm just laying out the facts, not justifying ripping or justifying protection.



I would be fine with it because it wasn't stolen. The moment I released it, I legally implied my consent that anyone could use my content. And this applies to anyone that releases content in Halo CE. And I, unlike a good majority of the community, was actually aware of and accepted that fact before I released it.

Meaning, who ever took my content had the right to do so, and I was aware of that and accepted it.

It's like signing a contract. If you don't read it, but you sign it, you need to obey it, whether you know what it declares or not. Everyone signs that contract when they release something in Halo CE, but very few actually read and accept the contract before signing, and that's their problem.
Edited by Me KS on Feb 16, 2009 at 10:45 AM

*post deleted by admin for rules violation
READ THE RULES:
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=2979

See PM for reason.
Edited by Dennis on Feb 16, 2009 at 12:11 PM

It's the principle, you made your copyright in the model, now if they remove it, the people KNOW they are doing WRONG on PURPOSE and put effort in to be able to claim it theirs, wich is where the flaming part comes in. No place to hide, I don't think people will do so, as ripping and using them is different than editing them and claiming it theirs.
You're safe, believe me, but just go ahead and try, my models got the credits in several games like UT3 by being able to prove my name were on the models. =)

You're right, the model belongs to them. But the moment it lands in a .gbxmodel tag that compiles into a map that is released, it doesn't. As long as the model stays in a released tag, it's not theirs.

And I'm talking about just Halo CE. If I was talking about the game industry, I would completely agree with you right now. Don't take it personally. It's just what you're saying doesn't work out with Halo CE, because Halo CE encourages custom content on the one condition that Microsoft makes sure that creators don't have rights to what they create using the HEK, other than to share it freely for no profit.

What you people think you know about copyright laws is a joke and most of you who have tried to tell what you think you know have not even come close to the actual interpretation of the law.

Copyright laws are complex and full of grey areas, They require interpretation and most of all they are not criminal they are civil so they can’t be called “illegal” since there are no criminal punishments (eg: jail time) attached to them. You can be sued in a civil court however.

The DX ripper program by itself is not illegal nor does it violate any copyright by what it does. Extracting a model from a game is not by itself a violation of a copyright. What you do with the extracted model could be a violation however the rule of thumb is: If you use it as a fan based production, do not sell it nor decrease the value of the original copyrighted material by your use then it may be used under the fair use provisions unless the original copyright holder objects. (Grey area)

The other thing you all have wrong is that you cannot copyright anything made for or from the Halo game or anything that looks like copyrighted material in the Halo game. This means that if you make a model for the Halo game you have forfeited your right to any possible copyright you might have had on that model.

Once a map or model for the Halo Game is released to the public domain all possible copyrights you might have had to anything in the game are now forfeit to Bungie/Microsoft since they are the original copyright holder and you no longer have any say legally or otherwise in how that material is used.

So Microsoft owns all those crappy Blood Gulch mods...

err- so you're saying that the stuff CMT and H3MT makes can be fully used when someone gets their hands on it somehow?

Don't get any ideas.....

*runs with a terrabyte of CMT stuff* *halts* wut?

What I am saying is that Bungie/Microsoft owns the copyright for any map you download for the Halo CE game regardless of the who actually made that map. You cannot copyright anything for or derived from the Halo games because Bungie/Microsoft owns the copyright to the IP (Intellectual Property).

So, that means, *drumrolls* as i said earlier, the only thing keeping us from using the stuff that is ripped, is the community, the moral part, correct me if i'm wrong.
*Makes long credits list for upcoming movie with CMT stuff*

You are correct....

*calls the moral police*

Obviously, but unless you want to become the target for all of the CMT fanboy's rage at you ripping off their heroes, I would not do that.

lol yea it was merely an example, but just to get an EXTREME case of wich it could apply to...
Well, I've learned something new today *puts name on models*

But for sure, this is not what I imagined the copyright would've be.