Quote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter
I dont like it. The thread detail is WAY to large.

Quote: Who says I have to skin it as the other game companies defined? To me it seems like that vest they wear would be more bullet proof. Also grunt quit trying to cover your ass, you contradicted yourself, you called me an idiot and said I did not know my own diffuse, and in the picture I quoted it said they were both the same, so when I proved you wrong with a picture, you go off and bring up past experiences just to try and bring me down, get off my thread, I could care less what your hypocritical ass wants. Also on a final note, you told me to make it less defined, yet you could not tell which cloth was separate, please make up your mind on whether it is too defined or not, because you are really starting to embarrass yourself with your crappy logic.
Now disaster, if you knew anything about skinning, you would know that the visor is not part of the main unwrap and I mentioned it was not skinned IN THE MAIN POST. So please read, also how do you expect to do wrinkle sin clothes disaster? Painting over them is like slathering mud over them, completely hides the material, while dodge and burn change the brightness and darkness, giving the wrinkle effect. Unlike what Dano says, using dodge and burn to a certain extent is ok, as it is great for creating organics such as wrinkles in cloth, and folds of skin, I remember people complimenting me on my elite skin, but not the metal, saying how its skin looked awesome, I used dodge and burn for that, surprise. Now what isn't skillful is using dodge and burn on metals, with a grunge brush, I painted my scratches and crap on there myself , with 3 different shades of gray in my pallet.
So please, everyone, for the sake of your e-penis, please read the posts and respect that the person who made it and spent two days with it knows it best, and that if he says there are 2 different materials for the bullet proof vest and the pants, then they are.

Quote: --- Original message by: Scrables_the_DeathDealer

Who says I have to skin it as the other game companies defined? To me it seems like that vest they wear would be more bullet proof. Also grunt quit trying to cover your ass, you contradicted yourself, you called me an idiot and said I did not know my own diffuse, and in the picture I quoted it said they were both the same, so when I proved you wrong with a picture, you go off and bring up past experiences just to try and bring me down, get off my thread, I could care less what your hypocritical ass wants. Also on a final note, you told me to make it less defined, yet you could not tell which cloth was separate, please make up your mind on whether it is too defined or not, because you are really starting to embarrass yourself with your crappy logic.
Now disaster, if you knew anything about skinning, you would know that the visor is not part of the main unwrap and I mentioned it was not skinned IN THE MAIN POST. So please read, also how do you expect to do wrinkle sin clothes disaster? Painting over them is like slathering mud over them, completely hides the material, while dodge and burn change the brightness and darkness, giving the wrinkle effect. Unlike what Dano says, using dodge and burn to a certain extent is ok, as it is great for creating organics such as wrinkles in cloth, and folds of skin, I remember people complimenting me on my elite skin, but not the metal, saying how its skin looked awesome, I used dodge and burn for that, surprise. Now what isn't skillful is using dodge and burn on metals, with a grunge brush, I painted my scratches and crap on there myself , with 3 different shades of gray in my pallet.
So please, everyone, for the sake of your e-penis, please read the posts and respect that the person who made it and spent two days with it knows it best, and that if he says there are 2 different materials for the bullet proof vest and the pants, then they are.

Quote: --- Original message by: Scrables_the_DeathDealer

Also grunt quit trying to cover your ass, you contradicted yourself, you called me an idiot and said I did not know my own diffuse, and in the picture I quoted it said they were both the same, so when I proved you wrong with a picture, you go off and bring up past experiences just to try and bring me down, get off my thread.

Quote: --- Original message by: Scrables_the_DeathDealer

I know how clothes work, and seeing how I have been skinning longer then you, I can happily say that you are an idiot for telling me my method is terrible, you did not even acknowledge the truth that paint blurs over details while dodge and burn lighten and darken it, but do not cover up details. You know nothing, only what halomaps and modacity fools tell you, dodge and burn is perfectly acceptable and I used it in a proper way. Put your new tablet you have been bragging about where your mouth is or get out of my thread, if you do not like them, do not use them, but I have found the majority do. Get off my nuts, as I will not change my skin just because some fellow peers do not like it, go skin it oyurself if you want to.

Quote: --- Original message by: Scrables_the_DeathDealer
I am not saying its my own style, disaster said I sucked and my method is terrible, when all he doe sis rely on specular and baking to get his details done, and its going to screw him over later. Disaster is better then me in modeling, alot better, but I can take his ass on in skinning any day. I know the cloth details are too big, I even agreed, but if you read if I shrink it down it looks like noise. What pisses me off is people like cls grunt saying things such as the details are exactly the same, then I prove him wrong and he gets all pissy. Yes I am an ass, I know that perfectly well, but there's a line between crit and flaming, saying it is terrible is not any kind of criticism, saying it needs work and stating with evidence would be more convincing, all he said is that dodge and burn is bad quality and said to paint, but why, how is it better? On my side however, I specifically stated that dodge and burn is better for organics and clothes because it darkens and lightens, but does not smudge out the details like paint and gives it actual texture, for example, that is only the diffuse, no bumps or specular, yet it looks nice and a lot higher poly then it really is. Now if you do not like it, I could care less, someone who is a lot wiser then you gave me some advice on what I should do with my work and my time and my thoughts, and I am taking that.
Told me to judge my own work, and improve on what I believe needs to be improved. You're not going to change my mindset or my stance, if you do not like it, do not use it, or change it yourself when I release it, I am satisfied with the practice it gave me, and I am giving to the community, if I did not believe it was ready then I would not be releasing it. Good day Cls, disaster, Josh, I am not crying, merely shrinking your e-penises down day by day, with actual logic.

Quote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter

Mass production of "lol" has begun.

Quote: --- Original message by: CLS_GRUNT
Learn.
to.
accept.
crit.

Quote: --- Original message by: CLS_GRUNT

what what what what what, there is something seriously wrong here. How dose "Your details look the same to me fix them" turn into "hurr hurr your a idiot and you dont know what you painted"
Stop crying and learn to accept crit, or else youll never get better.

Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
Also, looking at the diffuse you posted with the wrinkle, adding the light dosent always look good ingame on textures, thats why you leave it to bump maps and such. But thats just my suggestion. Still add the leather straps and pockets to create a more realistic look then just cloth over the entire body. Also when making the visor make it dark blue and ingame make it have a cubemap thats dark blue as well