I'm working on a Fall of Reach machinima, and I need a child biped to use for the Spartans when they are kids. Does anyone know where I can download one? Or if you made one, could you put a link to where I can download it? You can join the group at http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/196883/Group/GroupHome.aspx

For your first reason, maybe someone could rig a jackal or grunt. They're close to a child's height.
For your second reason......I'm not sure, aren't new animations made for the new bipeds that are made?
For your third reason, someone could rig a grunt or jackal, they seem less complicated than the Chief.
I don't know about biped rigging, but I figured a grunt or jackal could be rigged to be a human child. And I don't know anything about model animations. It does seem unlikely I'll find one, but maybe someone's made one. There was a campaign map called Triple Threat(or Covenant War) that said there would be children bipeds, but the map was never made.
Edited by Dark Ninja on May 27, 2008 at 09:03 PM

Bipeds don't animate themselves. Sorry.

I meant that when people make new bipeds, don't they also make custom animations for them? If they don't, can't you use the original animations from the biped you rigged?
Edited by Dark Ninja on May 27, 2008 at 09:31 PM

Bipeds automatically take the animations from whatever biped animation you assign it to use. The only problem is, it resizes the model to fit the animation. You'd have some really tall 12 year olds running around if you used the cyborg or marine animations.

Wait, so if you rigged a grunt or human and turned it into a human child, then gave it grunt or jackal animations, it would change it's size to match it? If I'm right, then a child biped could be made like that.

Lol, and turn the carrier form into a mother.
What if I took a crewman and gave it grunt animations? Would it make it the size of a 12 year old kid? And am I right on my previous post?
Edited by Dark Ninja on May 27, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Yes, but it'd run around like a grunt does.

So that's a yes? I'm trying it out tomorrow. I'll try grunt and jackal animations. Would I need the grunt collision model? I'll just make it so the players go as it. I'll post back what it was like.

There's another reason why a child biped hasn't been made, collision. I have never seen a tutorial for biped collision and I've read somewhere there are special things you have to do to it to make headshots work and stuff.

I have a progaram called Poser which can generate the visible model for bipeds and export them to .3ds for you. I was going to try and edit the face on the child I exported so that it looks like me and then put it in-game (I'm fairlly tall though so I was going to use the Spartan rig anyway (I'm 6 foot 2 or 3 I'm guessing)) and then I'd just scale everything else up a bit so I look 6 feet tall instead of 7 feet tall.

It didn't work. It said the grunt collision and animations didn't match with the model.

have ever seen a grunt and a marine standing next to each other? grunts aren that small you know, theyre almost as big as the marines. they only look small cuz the chief is a friggin giant.

>right from the halo manual<
The Grunts
approximately 5' tall
The Jackals approximately 5' 8'' tall
The elites roughly 8' 6'' tall
the Hunters stand 12' tall

the grunts are your best guess. i also read somewhere that mc is 7' tall but i don't know and the mariens must be about 6'

Yeah, the grunts are nearly the perfect size, but I don't know how to rig them and make them look human, and it didn't work giving a crewman grunt animations and collision. I'm still trying to find a child biped.

enter scale unit code

What's a scale unit code What program is it in, and what's it do?

It's a devmode command. Enter object_set_scale <gruntbiped> <size> <time>

Here's a low down on those parameters:
gruntbiped: The biped to be shrunk.
size: How small or big. The gun does not change.
time: How long it takes to change size. 1 is instant.

Awesome. Thanks for the reply. So all I need to do is enter that command for a crewman, right?

If someone feels like modeling the character model, I'm more than willing to build a simple rig for it.

yeah

Awesome, it worked. I made a crewman about the size of a kid. I also made the chief so small it looked like the gun was moving by itself. It would be funny if someone went to get a gun, and it shot them I also made that small drivable frigate actual-sized. I never got to try to see if it'll work, I might soon.
Edited by Dark Ninja on May 28, 2008 at 10:28 PM

I downloaded a tut on making biped animations that came with a MC biped ready to be animated, how did he get this? how would I go about getting one for a grunt or a hunter?

How do you type? Do you just bang on the keyboard? And child bipeds could be made by fans. GTA has nothing to do with Halo. And I don't think gaming companies would get banned for adding children to games.

not to mention Bioshock. The little girls in that game can be harvested... I rather not get into to much detail. They aren't getting sued and in Bioshock, the childrens face texture is execellent if you ask me.
Edited by lordofblake on May 31, 2008 at 09:08 AM

I'm scared. You want a biped of a child? Um...

Sounds like a pedophile.

That's not very funny. I'm sure you read my first sentence "I'm working on a Fall of Reach machinima, and I need a child biped to use for the Spartans when they are kids."
Edited by Dark Ninja on May 31, 2008 at 10:18 AM

I read it, and made a joke. i can has cookie?

if its possible for the kids you could use the face of a crewman w/o a goatee XD and joke not funny

If there is, I would want to use it for Dr. Halsey.

why would u take out all the hair? they were raised by Age 7, not 1 years old -_-. Also it could just be a girl biped, not a dude biped

or... you could find a woman biped (good luck, i tried. not easy to find) or a crewman biped. Then, make new bitmaps that look like a child and put them over the crewman. Then in sapien just scale it down. I tried that with a grunt to make it look like a small infected grunt. to bad i cant make a bitmap for my life XD
Edited by lordofblake on Jun 1, 2008 at 02:21 PM

I can't make bitmaps either. I'll just have to hope someone makes one.

www.turbosquid.com has alot of character models, just needs to be rigged

Me + making any art = a horrible, misrable excuse for art

Also, you could just google a childs face and use that. ( thats kinda creepy tho -_-)
Edited by lordofblake on Jun 2, 2008 at 03:14 PM
Edited by lordofblake on Jun 2, 2008 at 03:14 PM