Cheers to IFAFUGLFAGLFE for stepping up towards Masterz poor communication.

Alright, it's 12:30 pm, open up Halo ce, go to the multiplayer section,and find this.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Dy3a4X3E7HdzgtU214OHl4Skk/view?usp=sharing

Only two servers showed up. Is anyone else having this problem?
Edited by Josh on Apr 10, 2015 at 03:35 PM

Wait a minute

This isn't about CMT

I understand that, but what just happened could mean that halo ce is shutting down, which is bad for cmt.

While this IS off topic, I just checked and I'm getting the same problem. Running version 1.10 with HAC 2 and version 1.09 with OS yields the same result.

....



Edit: also I cant find any servers at all, not even one.
Edited by The Kingx on Apr 10, 2015 at 04:15 PM

Something's going on. If Halo CE gets shut down for good this time I'll be angry.

It really wouldn't matter.

Eh, you're right. It's probably just a short term glitch.

I don't think that's what he meant.

Yay.

Surprised no one's posted this yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIsgvb3Mz9s

I was going to but, homework keeps you busy.

The sprint will have fp animation ? like halo 4?

I'm afraid not, sir.

Is it going to at least a sound indicating that sprint is being used?

Yeah, that part is easy.

why do people like sprint?

its like running but I dont have to actually do it

Think of sprint like running as fast as you can to win a 100m race, compared to a brisk jog. Sprinting saps your strength quickly and thus is an anaerobic activity, while jogging can be sustained for many miles and thus is an aerobic activity. The two are different enough in reality that in games it is reasonable to distinguish the two.

Why wouldn't you like sprint? I have yet to see a single good argument against it for single player. I also think the majority of MP complaints about it for H4 are flawed as well, but that more comes down to poor map design and gameplay settings for H4.

Sprint is, both in SP and MP, dependent on map design and encounter pacing.
It wouldn't work well in maps that weren't designed for it, be it SP or MP.

Example 1: if Halo 1 had sprint, the escape from the silent cartographer could be toned down to a simple combination of sprints out of the structure.
Example 2: in certain exterior sections, you could just sprint across the plains, ignoring all enemies, in a mad-dash to advance.

I believe these two examples illustrate how it can deter from the planned experience, as it opens alot of opportunities to "skip" sections. People would do it, because people are people.

So there you go, the very first éver good argument against having sprint in single player, when used in maps that weren't designed for it.

There were a lot of small maps from multiplayer that allowed sprint, such as zealot from Halo Reach. Map size isn't a factor, but the file size will.be changed if the map contains sprint. Second of all, sprint was never such a game-breaking asset in Halo. Sure, it's pretty essential in multiplayer when you're getting chased, but in the campaign, you'll need to be stealthy or use vehicles to outrun your enemies. Plus, that's why sprint also has a limit and can't be overused. Sprint was never a game-breaking asset.

reading halo ce forum disscussions is so freaking interesting. kepp the threads like that !

Speed runs are there for people who have already played the maps to death.
And you're making the common mistake of assuming people will play the way you wish them to experience your work. That's not how people are. If you give people ANY POSSIBLE TOOL that can let them break immersion, in this case making it easier to skip sections, then they WILL do that. Not all people will, but more people would then if these tools weren't there. That in itself is an argument against sprint, which is simply there to debunk the nonsensical statement that "there are no downsides at all to sprint -Masterz".

It's really that simple, trust me, I'm a software developer.

I have yet to find any encounter or area in SPV3 where sprint has made it to easy to skip sections. It's a tool that gives you a quick dash of speed to get from cover to cover. You try running somewhere and skip an area either

A. Enemies will follow.
B. Your sprint runs out and you are stuck in the open.
C. You make it past, just like you could in the stock game and risk not getting checkpoints for a while.


Also you are making up a quote, did not say that, I said



I still have yet to see one. If people want to try to use it to skip sections, that is their choice, sprint can be used as a tool to help in that, although I do not find it a very effective one.

My point is that it IS dependent on level and encounter design, and that is not exclusive to MP. To further analyse the following statement:

1)
"If people want to try to use it to skip sections, that is their choice"
=> skip sections
=> you agree it is a possibility that sprint enhances this form of play
2)
Most game designers would argue skipping sections = bad
3) Using the mathematical principle of substitution, we find:
=> you agree it is a possibility that sprint can cause bad things to happen in terms of playability
4)
Having the option of bad things happening in gameplay due to a mechanic, is something a logical person would consider a good argument against it. This does not mean there aren't arguments FOR having sprint in, but it means there ARE in fact negative ones to consider.
5)
We have proved that there are good arguments against sprint for single player.

Therefore we have now debunked your nonsensical statement.
Ultimately the good needs to be weighed off against the bad, and I'm not saying anything about the outcome of that balance here. I am merely focusing on the lack of rationale, the spewing of nonsense.

Cheers!

Lodex's original point was that sprint could hurt the gameplay of a game that didn't take it into consideration, and I think he's absolutely right. I think if you could run through all of Halo's encounters without any difficulty it's would make the game way too easy.

But that's not realistic. There are enemies guarding exits, firefights, switches that open the way forward, and other objectives that must be me before you can proceed.


1) You could skip sections in the original campaign. The consequence were:
- They would run after you.
-"You make it past, just like you could in the stock game and risk not getting checkpoints for a while."

2) More open-word games make it practically a feature of skipping certain sections. People praised the original Silent Cartographer and then TSC:E for having multiple routes and optional encounters. Giving the player choices makes them feel like they're actually participating in the game as opposed to "taking a Disney tour on a rail car." It's a matter of preference.


3) Halo is about a bunch of outnumbered and outgunned humans trying survive the onslaught of alien empire on an ancient ring-world, by using guerrilla tactics.

Running away is warranted.


Could sprint ruin a game's gameplay? Sure. Will it ruin SPV3's? Probably not.

I concur.


And I agree with this too!

yeah you guys all bring up valid points but without sprint how would you pull off all your amazing 540 quickscope no aimbot headshots only montage?

If people want to find some way to abuse sprint, they're free to do so. Please don't nerf sprint so that it runs out quickly. Don't do it for the sake of balance. Spartan IIs are known for their preternatural stamina resulting from the augmentation process, and I think the gameplay should at least reflect that.
Edited by Navarro on Apr 26, 2015 at 01:19 PM

By using 420 mouse sensitivity.

And while this is canonically true, it'd only be fitting if the game itself was as difficult as waging war against a technologically and numerically superior alien juggernaut was in the books. This isn't the case, so it makes sense to water things down a bit. It'd be silly if the player had all the qualities of the ultimate soldier while your opponents were still FPS cannon fodder.
Edited by Echo77 on Apr 26, 2015 at 02:43 PM

Oh man, I think it was the Ghosts of Onyx book.
The opening scene, with the Spartan III's sprinting across the plains to attack a Covenant refinery. Now man, that was epic! Imagine that in a game.

So many AI tho